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England manager brainfart discussion
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Mon May 16, 2016 11:17 amby Bianchi on Ice
Do they ever learn?
Wilshere...made of glass..hardly played...out of practice...gets picked
Do not pick injured/ injury prone players
Quite simple really...but England managers keep doing this..
And...playing players out of position...cue vardy on the left.
Hope they lose all 3 games
Re: England manager brainfart discussion
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Mon May 16, 2016 11:44 amby Wonderwall
Bianchi on Ice wrote:Do they ever learn?
Wilshere...made of glass..hardly played...out of practice...gets picked
Do not pick injured/ injury prone players
Quite simple really...but England managers keep doing this..
And...playing players out of position...cue vardy on the left.
Hope they lose all 3 games
Wilshire 3 games this season. Accident waiting to happen or a very fresh player? He is a dickhead in his personal life but a very talented footballer. Then you have Andros head down 1 dimensional Townsend. Played for relegated Newcastle. Form player eh?
Re: England manager brainfart discussion
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Mon May 16, 2016 11:46 amby PrezIke
I think you have to pick Wilshere for the provisional squad, at least. You could make an argument for Noble, but if Wilshere is in form and fit he's certainly the better player.
Who will end up starting in the middle is a good question. I think Roy wants to play Wilshere and I'd probably partner him with Drinkwater. Henderson should not start, and I'd have Dier and even Milner ahead of him. Delph surely will be cut. Not sure if Alli will play as a holding or attacking midfielder, but he has to start somewhere.
Rashford was clearly selected as a wildcard, and primarily to give him experience/see how he performs competing for a place. He's not even played for the U-21s, which does raise some questions when Hodgson could have included Carroll or Dafoe, but the 5th forward has pretty much zero chance of making the squad anyway.
Central defence is the biggest worry for England. Smalling, who was okay this season, and Cahill who is getting old, do not exactly inspire confidence against top sides. The fullbacks in the squad can provide the width missing from midfield, but they are not so great in providing protection.
Re: England manager brainfart discussion
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Mon May 16, 2016 4:53 pmby nottsblue
No Noble is a kick in the teeth for every player out there who has had a good season
Re: England manager brainfart discussion
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Mon May 16, 2016 6:15 pmby london blue 2
Stick Delph in there as well.
Re: England manager brainfart discussion
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Mon May 16, 2016 6:16 pmby PeterParker
So what would be the standard eleven at the moment?
Re: England manager brainfart discussion
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Mon May 16, 2016 6:34 pmby bigblue
nottsblue wrote:No Noble is a kick in the teeth for every player out there who has had a good season
Yep, and Michail Antonio should be in there on merit as well.
How wilshire (and Henderson to a lesser degree) can be picked after being injured again for the whole season is mind-boggling. And including rashford over Defoe or Carroll just proves that the club on your shirt matters more than your performance on the field.
Re: England manager brainfart discussion
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Mon May 16, 2016 6:49 pmby gillie
bigblue wrote:nottsblue wrote:No Noble is a kick in the teeth for every player out there who has had a good season
Yep, and Michail Antonio should be in there on merit as well.
How wilshire (and Henderson to a lesser degree) can be picked after being injured again for the whole season is mind-boggling. And including rashford over Defoe or Carroll just proves that the club on your shirt matters more than your performance on the field.
Exactly where is Cleverly in the squad oh I forgot he no longer plays for the rags.
Re: England manager brainfart discussion
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Mon May 16, 2016 6:52 pmby nottsblue
bigblue wrote:nottsblue wrote:No Noble is a kick in the teeth for every player out there who has had a good season
Yep, and Michail Antonio should be in there on merit as well.
How wilshire (and Henderson to a lesser degree) can be picked after being injured again for the whole season is mind-boggling. And including rashford over Defoe or Carroll just proves that the club on your shirt matters more than your performance on the field.
Antonio deserves a place far more than either Townsend or Sterling for that matter. Good shout. I know Defoe is 33 but he scores goals and has done for 16 years. He of all the players mentioned must feel aggrieved the most. Lallana? You may as may field Joey fucking Barton
Re: England manager brainfart discussion
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Mon May 16, 2016 7:24 pmby MilnersJaw
rashford aka messi has played a few games and scored a few goals but all of a sudden hes in the england squad. if it were any other team he wouldn't get a sniff.
england will never learn, this kid should be playing in the under 21s until he is ready.
Re: England manager brainfart discussion
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Mon May 16, 2016 7:26 pmby Sister of fu
If Rashford played for Watford and scored 7 goals would he be in the squad?
Re: England manager brainfart discussion
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Mon May 16, 2016 7:30 pmby nottsblue
Sister of fu wrote:If Rashford played for Watford and scored 7 goals would he be in the squad?
If he played for Watford and scored 27 he wouldn't be in the squad. Then the moment he signed for the rags/dippers/arse he is in.
Re: England manager brainfart discussion
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Mon May 16, 2016 7:39 pmby bigblue
Sister of fu wrote:If Rashford played for Watford and scored 7 goals would he be in the squad?
Deeney has 15. Not the greatest player but has more character than 1/2 the announced England squad combined
Re: England manager brainfart discussion
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Mon May 16, 2016 7:56 pmby sidSmith
Sister of fu wrote:If Rashford played for any other team than the scum and scored 7 goals would he be in the squad?
Re: England manager brainfart discussion
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Mon May 16, 2016 8:05 pmby michaelcityfan
Surprised they didn't just pick every England qualified rag player and add Ryan shawcross for reasons of thuggery
Re: England manager brainfart discussion
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Tue May 17, 2016 12:25 amby aaron bond
michaelcityfan wrote:Surprised they didn't just pick every England qualified rag player and add Ryan shawcross for reasons of thuggery
Shawcross is a far better centre back than Stones though.
Still trying to work out what talent Stones has...
Re: England manager brainfart discussion
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Tue May 17, 2016 11:30 amby DoomMerchant
Sister of fu wrote:If Rashford played for Watford and scored 7 goals would he be in the squad?
No way. And if Carroll or Defoe or Noble played for the Raggy cunts or the bin dippers they'd all be in the side for sure.
Cheers
Re: England manager brainfart discussion
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Tue May 17, 2016 11:46 amby Alioune DVToure
Rashford, Wilshere and Delph are lucky to have made the cut. Noble, Defoe and Carroll are unlucky not to have made the cut.
My impression is that, all in all, it's quite an exciting, ballsy young squad with plenty of pace and self-belief, and one which is free from the burden of hype which has doomed past England teams. If we win the group, who knows how far we can go?
The biggest problem - and one which nobody seems to have picked up on - is what the fuck we do if one of Smalling or Cahill gets injured. A back five of Hart-Clyne-Smalling-Cahill-Rose is fine but the defensive options beyond that are appalling.
Re: England manager brainfart discussion
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Tue May 17, 2016 11:50 amby Foreverinbluedreams
Alioune DVToure wrote:Rashford, Wilshere and Delph are lucky to have made the cut. Noble, Defoe and Carroll are unlucky not to have made the cut.
My impression is that, all in all, it's quite an exciting, ballsy young squad with plenty of pace and self-belief, and one which is free from the burden of hype which has doomed past England teams. If we win the group, who knows how far we can go?
The biggest problem - and one which nobody seems to have picked up on - is what the fuck we do if one of Smalling or Cahill gets injured. A back five of Hart-Clyne-Smalling-Cahill-Rose is fine but the defensive options beyond that are appalling.
Appalling is a bit harsh. Is there that much of a drop in quality to the second string?
Walker, Dier, Stones, Bertrand
Re: England manager brainfart discussion
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Tue May 17, 2016 11:56 amby Bianchi on Ice
DoomMerchant wrote:Sister of fu wrote:If Rashford played for Watford and scored 7 goals would he be in the squad?
No way. And if Carroll or Defoe or Noble played for the Raggy cunts or the bin dippers they'd all be in the side for sure.
Cheers
You wouldn't blame noble to ask for a move to the scum to give himself a chance of a call-up. It's laughable that before every tournament England go into it carrying flaky players. I remember in 82 Greenwood taking the unfit Keegan and brooking to Spain...they played 20 minutes. Bryan Robson in 86..had a dislocated shoulder nah itll be ok as long as he doesnt fall over...oops...beckhams foot soap opera...etc etc...Sorry but if you are out of practice and not up to the intensity of a tournament where its possibly 5-6 games close together then forget it..England managers keep doing this and as far as I can remember it has never paid off