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Dubaimancityfan wrote:Completely surprised me today. Could've easily given the pen against Bravo but didn't. Is this the Pep effect ??

I'd like to believe he has developed some integrity and a sense of pride in his work, but the evidence of years is still stacked against him, I'm afraid. And not just in relation to City.

I don't want any "Pep effect" or things in our favour, personally. I want them right.

I don't know how many of you remember what happend after we won in the swamp 6-1 and how the decisions went against us almost every away game.

I expect that to happen right now again. The rag machine will go full speed after the travesty they showed today, I am certain of this.

He gave Bravo the benefit of the doubt which surprised me.

How he failed to book Bailly for poleaxing KDB right at the start I've no idea, let three definite yellow cards go for them before booking Silva, only then did he start showing them yellows.

All in all though a decent performance, that doesn't however take away from the fact that he's a massive cunt.

He is definitely mates with rooney.

And he is definitely corrupt.

I was very surprised he didn't give that penalty but then again in real time there's no way he could have seen that studs were showing.

But that table earlier in this thread.... what is it they say... oh yeah...

The table never lies.

Rooney was constantly swearing at him. You could see it on the TV. I thought that was now cardable? Fellaini should have been booked in the first half for 3 fouls. I thought The Rags were generally filthy. Clattenburg was generally cowardly.

S1 sums the git up . There was no penalty for wooney because it was a clean tackle.

Original Dub wrote:He is definitely mates with rooney.

And he is definitely corrupt.

I was very surprised he didn't give that penalty but then again in real time there's no way he could have seen that studs were showing.

But that table earlier in this thread.... what is it they say... oh yeah...

The table never lies.

Yes, rooney got a yellow at the third time of offering - could have easily got a red today. Silva - who is of course the dirtiest player around, got a yellow for his first offence.

Original Dub wrote:He is definitely mates with rooney.

And he is definitely corrupt.

I was very surprised he didn't give that penalty but then again in real time there's no way he could have seen that studs were showing.

But that table earlier in this thread.... what is it they say... oh yeah...

The table never lies.

That table is wank.

sheblue wrote:He did well.
He had the opportunity to give them two penalties, not saying they were pens but he could have given them if he was rag way inclined.

I think the whole Aguero retrospective ban drew attention to the refereeing and general officiating. This backfired the normal Scum advantage that they get.

There was definitely two opportunities to give them a peon. Both were not penalties in my view, but I agree that in the past he would have used at least one of them to get United back in the match.
Because of the extra spotlight on the officiating of this game, I feel he couldn't do that.
He was extremely lenient with them regarding the issuing of yellow cards but we benefitted by him not drawing attention on himself for big decisions.

Jose reckoned they didn't get what they deserved. I'd say they didn't get what they expected.
City for once got what they deserved. Not being stitched up. I think our football will withstand anything else.

iwasthere2012 wrote:

sheblue wrote:He did well.
He had the opportunity to give them two penalties, not saying they were pens but he could have given them if he was rag way inclined.

I think the whole Aguero retrospective ban drew attention to the refereeing and general officiating. This backfired the normal Scum advantage that they get.

There was definitely two opportunities to give them a peon. Both were not penalties in my view, but I agree that in the past he would have used at least one of them to get United back in the match.
Because of the extra spotlight on the officiating of this game, I feel he couldn't do that.
He was extremely lenient with them regarding the issuing of yellow cards but we benefitted by him not drawing attention on himself for big decisions.

Jose reckoned they didn't get what they deserved. I'd say they didn't get what they expected.
City for once got what they deserved. Not being stitched up. I think our football will withstand anything else.

Spot on IWT.

Your last paragraph encapsulates everything in just a couple of lines.

Very nice.

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:

iwasthere2012 wrote:

sheblue wrote:He did well.
He had the opportunity to give them two penalties, not saying they were pens but he could have given them if he was rag way inclined.

I think the whole Aguero retrospective ban drew attention to the refereeing and general officiating. This backfired the normal Scum advantage that they get.

There was definitely two opportunities to give them a peon. Both were not penalties in my view, but I agree that in the past he would have used at least one of them to get United back in the match.
Because of the extra spotlight on the officiating of this game, I feel he couldn't do that.
He was extremely lenient with them regarding the issuing of yellow cards but we benefitted by him not drawing attention on himself for big decisions.

Jose reckoned they didn't get what they deserved. I'd say they didn't get what they expected.
City for once got what they deserved. Not being stitched up. I think our football will withstand anything else.

Spot on IWT.

Your last paragraph encapsulates everything in just a couple of lines.

Very nice.

Hear hear

iwasthere2012 wrote:

sheblue wrote:He did well.
He had the opportunity to give them two penalties, not saying they were pens but he could have given them if he was rag way inclined.

I think the whole Aguero retrospective ban drew attention to the refereeing and general officiating. This backfired the normal Scum advantage that they get.

There was definitely two opportunities to give them a peon. Both were not penalties in my view, but I agree that in the past he would have used at least one of them to get United back in the match.
Because of the extra spotlight on the officiating of this game, I feel he couldn't do that.
He was extremely lenient with them regarding the issuing of yellow cards but we benefitted by him not drawing attention on himself for big decisions.

Jose reckoned they didn't get what they deserved. I'd say they didn't get what they expected.
City for once got what they deserved. Not being stitched up. I think our football will withstand anything else.

You have a good point but I still think he did well, yes he missed some yellows for them no doubt, but he didn't buckle under the pressure from the swampites to give them those penalties, many others would.
It could have been a lot worse, and a spotlight on officiating or not he could have done it and got away with it, he didn't.

Thought he as up to his European standard, which was refreshing. Never fell for Wiggy's antics and was firm with his handling, telling the cunt that Bravo got the ball.

Notice how many times Wiggy screams for a penalty, it got embarrassing. And then, when we kicked it out to get treatment to him, they threw the ball about 15 yards and instead of letting us play it, chased us down?

Just shows how unsporting these dirty fuckers are, not to mention how they tried to stamp, grab and kick us off the pitch.

Beefymcfc wrote:Thought he as up to his European standard, which was refreshing. Never fell for Wiggy's antics and was firm with his handling, telling the cunt that Bravo got the ball.

Notice how many times Wiggy screams for a penalty, it got embarrassing. And then, when we kicked it out to get treatment to him, they threw the ball about 15 yards and instead of letting us play it, chased us down?

Just shows how unsporting these dirty fuckers are, not to mention how they tried to stamp, grab and kick us off the pitch.

It's the United way, surely Beefy ??

sheblue wrote:

iwasthere2012 wrote:

sheblue wrote:He did well.
He had the opportunity to give them two penalties, not saying they were pens but he could have given them if he was rag way inclined.

I think the whole Aguero retrospective ban drew attention to the refereeing and general officiating. This backfired the normal Scum advantage that they get.

There was definitely two opportunities to give them a peon. Both were not penalties in my view, but I agree that in the past he would have used at least one of them to get United back in the match.
Because of the extra spotlight on the officiating of this game, I feel he couldn't do that.
He was extremely lenient with them regarding the issuing of yellow cards but we benefitted by him not drawing attention on himself for big decisions.

Jose reckoned they didn't get what they deserved. I'd say they didn't get what they expected.
City for once got what they deserved. Not being stitched up. I think our football will withstand anything else.

You have a good point but I still think he did well, yes he missed some yellows for them no doubt, but he didn't buckle under the pressure from the swampites to give them those penalties, many others would.
It could have been a lot worse, and a spotlight on officiating or not he could have done it and got away with it, he didn't.

No doubt about it. He did well, whatever the reasons.
No reason why it shouldn't be like that all the time.
I think a little spotlight on them is a good thing if it keeps things straight.

Whilst I don't think he was terrible, I'm still pissed off there is no sky witch hunt on Rooney for swearing and videos of the incident going round the media.

he does things that negatively impact City: "he's a rag and a bent ref"
he does things that don't negatively impact City: "well it's because it's clear as day and no ref would ever do that because it'd be obvious they were bent"

or, he's just an inconsistent ref who tends to favor star players (as is common in every single major sports league).
the way people on here were slamming him you would've thought we had 0% chance to win on Saturday.

damned if you do, damned if you dont. aside from Rooney not getting a card until very late there's little to complain about. if he really was a United sympathizer then he would've sent those players off that Jose mentioned.

phips wrote:he does things that negatively impact City: "he's a rag and a bent ref"
he does things that don't negatively impact City: "well it's because it's clear as day and no ref would ever do that because it'd be obvious they were bent"

or, he's just an inconsistent ref who tends to favor star players (as is common in every single major sports league).
the way people on here were slamming him you would've thought we had 0% chance to win on Saturday.

damned if you do, damned if you dont. aside from Rooney not getting a card until very late there's little to complain about. if he really was a United sympathizer then he would've sent those players off that Jose mentioned.

See, you miss the point here. He has done things all his career that have impacted certain matches in certain ways. It is not, and never has been, just City. There is information out there regarding this man and his refereeing history. Eccentric does not cover it, in my view, nor does incompetent.

phips wrote:he does things that negatively impact City: "he's a rag and a bent ref"
he does things that don't negatively impact City: "well it's because it's clear as day and no ref would ever do that because it'd be obvious they were bent"

or, he's just an inconsistent ref who tends to favor star players (as is common in every single major sports league).
the way people on here were slamming him you would've thought we had 0% chance to win on Saturday.

damned if you do, damned if you dont. aside from Rooney not getting a card until very late there's little to complain about. if he really was a United sympathizer then he would've sent those players off that Jose mentioned.

What players? Bravo and _____?

phips wrote:he does things that negatively impact City: "he's a rag and a bent ref"
he does things that don't negatively impact City: "well it's because it's clear as day and no ref would ever do that because it'd be obvious they were bent"

or, he's just an inconsistent ref who tends to favor star players (as is common in every single major sports league).
the way people on here were slamming him you would've thought we had 0% chance to win on Saturday.

damned if you do, damned if you dont. aside from Rooney not getting a card until very late there's little to complain about. if he really was a United sympathizer then he would've sent those players off that Jose mentioned.

Don't fall for the Mourinho agenda. The media were all over it immediately like a rash, but doesn't mean you have to have selective vision as well.