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Does this mean he's deemed not guilty until a verdict has been reached in the new trial, or that he's still guilty pending a retrial, does anyone know?

The conviction has been quashed so he's back in the position he was before the trial; innocent till proven guilty. Sub judice rules apply again so people should be careful what they post.

Wow.

A little to late, but what a decision.

I wonder how Jessica Ennis feels now.

blues2win wrote:The conviction has been quashed so he's back in the position he was before the trial; innocent till proven guilty. Sub judice rules apply again so people should be careful what they post.

"Sub judges rules apply"- get you!!

The Court of Appeal received fresh evidence from the defence on the basis of which they quashed the verdict and ordered a retrial. He will have to be recharged first. They are not publishing the grounds on which they allowed the appeal against the verdict so as not to prejudice the retrial.

So if this all turns out that he is innocent, will the accuser face any charges

Wooders wrote:So if this all turns out that he is innocent, will the accuser face any charges

I think it would depend on what new evidence came to light, but unless it's particularly incriminating (i.e. something like her trying to put the feelers out to sell her story to a publicist) then that would be unlikely.

Wonderwall wrote:I wonder how Jessica Ennis feels now.

Like a fuckin idiot hopefully! Knew nothing about the case before getting involved. Like half the bandwagon jumpers that stuck their beaks in.

Mase wrote:

Wonderwall wrote:I wonder how Jessica Ennis feels now.

Like a fuckin idiot hopefully! Knew nothing about the case before getting involved. Like half the bandwagon jumpers that stuck their beaks in.

It's a lesson. Nothing good happens after midnight kids. Get to bed. And avoid trouble.

Cheers

I know from reading the case his legal team had been trying to find evidence of a text message or FB post from the victim that made it clear she was lying and trying to get money out of him as he was a footballer, it was supposed to be very daming of her, so maybe they have got it.

If found not guilty can he sue for loss of earnings and deformation of character? I know I would.

Mase wrote:

Wonderwall wrote:I wonder how Jessica Ennis feels now.

Like a fuckin idiot hopefully! Knew nothing about the case before getting involved. Like half the bandwagon jumpers that stuck their beaks in.

In fairness they made their decision based on a conviction under English law (not that I agreed with them). He still faces a retrial, but it was quashed on appeal due to new evidence apparently.

BlueinBosnia wrote:Does this mean he's deemed not guilty until a verdict has been reached in the new trial, or that he's still guilty pending a retrial, does anyone know?

Innocent until proven guilty. He's back to being a suspect.

Dameerto wrote:

BlueinBosnia wrote:Does this mean he's deemed not guilty until a verdict has been reached in the new trial, or that he's still guilty pending a retrial, does anyone know?

Innocent until proven guilty. He's back to being a suspect.

As an aside, are you not guilty or innocent if a prosecutor fails to prove your guilt in the UK?

Got to ask, but who is Katie Hopkins?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... l-facebook

I saw she is quoted in many topics, including this one.

PeterParker wrote:Got to ask, but who is Katie Hopkins?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... l-facebook

I saw she is quoted in many topics, including this one.

A vile wannabe rent-a-gob who for some reason is given airtime by idiot media outlets. She is a D List "celebrity" in the loosest of terms

Wonderwall wrote:

PeterParker wrote:Got to ask, but who is Katie Hopkins?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... l-facebook

I saw she is quoted in many topics, including this one.

A vile wannabe rent-a-gob who for some reason is given airtime by idiot media outlets. She is a D List "celebrity" in the loosest of terms

Thank you.

So she is a Kardashian.

PeterParker wrote:

Wonderwall wrote:

PeterParker wrote:Got to ask, but who is Katie Hopkins?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... l-facebook

I saw she is quoted in many topics, including this one.

A vile wannabe rent-a-gob who for some reason is given airtime by idiot media outlets. She is a D List "celebrity" in the loosest of terms

Thank you.

So she is a Kardashian.

Worse than that, she was on the UKs apprentice Show (alan Sugar) and that show was her springboard to be the vile thing that she is

Cocacolajojo wrote:

Dameerto wrote:

BlueinBosnia wrote:Does this mean he's deemed not guilty until a verdict has been reached in the new trial, or that he's still guilty pending a retrial, does anyone know?

Innocent until proven guilty. He's back to being a suspect.

As an aside, are you not guilty or innocent if a prosecutor fails to prove your guilt in the UK?

In English and Welsh law, there is just 'guilty' and 'not guilty'. In Scotland, there's something called 'not proven', too (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_proven).