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De Michelis charged

Postby blues2win » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:21 am

De Michelis has been charged by the FA with 12 betting offences in breach of regulations in connection with matches between January 22 and January 28 2016. He played in two matches for City during that period.
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Re: De Michelis charged

Postby Wonderwall » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:25 am

blues2win wrote:De Michelis has been charged by the FA with 12 betting offences in breach of regulations in connection with matches between January 22 and January 28 2016. He played in two matches for City during that period.



we beat everton in the COCup 3-1 and drew against WHU away 2-2.

I wonder if it was a yellow card bet. This is from the official match report

Martin Demichelis took one for the team as Michail Antonio drove forwards towards the box with the City man scything down the Hammers forward and picking up a yellow card for his troubles.
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Re: De Michelis charged

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:27 am

Looking at the rule it may well be for supplying information on line-ups to at third party.
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Re: De Michelis charged

Postby Wonderwall » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:28 am

the article says

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35923924

Manchester City defender Martin Demichelis has been charged by the Football Association over alleged betting offences.

The Argentine, 35, is accused of committing 12 breaches relating to football matches between 22 January and 28 January 2016.

He has until 17:00 BST on 5 April to respond to the charge.

Demichelis has played 18 times in the Premier League this season, including the recent defeat by Manchester United.
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Re: De Michelis charged

Postby PeterParker » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:33 am

Nice.

Maybe Le Tissier can put a good word for him at Sky.
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Re: De Michelis charged

Postby Blue Since 76 » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:40 am

Presume his bet was that no matter how badly he played, he'd still get picked
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Re: De Michelis charged

Postby ruralblue » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:41 am

Why the frig would you risk it doing shit like that when you earn all that money.

Only hope for us is that he is suspended with immediate effect (then of course found not guilty once he's been outed in the Summer clear out).
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Re: De Michelis charged

Postby Wonderwall » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:48 am

8 References to “Participant” in Rule E8 shall be construed in accordance with the following -
Rule E8(2) applies to any Match Official, referee coach or referee assessor operating at Level
4 or below, and any other person who is a Participant by virtue only of their involvement at
a Club below Step 4 in the National League System, or at a Club at Steps W1-W5 inclusive of
the Winter Women’s Football Pyramid. Such Participants are not subject to Rule E8(1).
All other Participants are subject to Rule E8(1), and are not subject to Rule E8(2).
All Participants are subject to Rule E8(3).

RULES OF THE ASSOCIATION 2015-2016 115
(1) (a) A Participant shall not bet, either directly or indirectly, or instruct, permit,
cause or enable any person to bet on -
(i) the result, progress, conduct or any other aspect of, or
occurrence in, a football match or competition; or
(ii) any other matter concerning or related to football anywhere
in the world, including, for example and without limitation, the
transfer of players, employment of managers, team selection or
disciplinary matters.
The terms ‘football match’ and ‘competition’ as used in sub-paragraph
E8(1)(a)(i) include any Match or Competition (as appropriate) as defined
in Rule A2, and also include any other football match or competition
not within those definitions in Rule A2, including but not limited to any
football match or competition sanctioned by UEFA, or FIFA, or by any
other association, federation or governing body.
(b) Where a Participant provides to any other person any information
relating to football which the Participant has obtained by virtue of his or
her position within the game and which is not publicly available at that
time, the Participant shall be in breach of this Rule where any of that
information is used by that other person for, or in relation to, betting.
(c) It shall be a defence to a charge brought pursuant to sub-paragraph E8(1)(b)
if a Participant can establish, on the balance of probability, that the
Participant provided any such information in circumstances where he
did not know, and could not reasonably have known, that the information
provided would be used by the other person for or in relation to betting.
(2) (a) A Participant shall not bet, either directly or indirectly, or instruct, permit,
cause or enable any person to bet on –
(i) the result, progress, conduct or any other aspect of, or
occurrence in, a football match or competition:
(A) in which the Participant is participating, or has
participated in that season; or
(B) in which the Participant has any influence, either direct
or indirect; or
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in any league Competition, as defined in Rule A2, that the
Participant is participating in or has participated in during
that season, including, for example and without limitation, the
transfer of players, employment of managers, team selection or
disciplinary matters.
For these purposes, without limitation to the application of this Rule to
other circumstances, all Employees and Officials of a Club are deemed to
participate in every football match played by that Club while they are so
employed or acting as a Club Official; all Players registered with a Club are
deemed to participate in every football match played by that Club while
they are so registered.
(b) Notwithstanding the provisions of sub-paragraph E8(2)(a), a Participant
shall not bet, either directly or indirectly, or instruct, permit, cause or
enable any person to bet, on the result, progress, conduct or any other
aspect of, or occurrence in, any football match played at under 18 level or
below.

116 RULES OF THE ASSOCIATION 2015-2016
The terms ‘football match’ and ‘competition’ as used in sub-paragraphs
E8(2)(a) and E8(2)(b) include any Match or Competition (as
appropriate) as defined in Rule A2, and also include any other football
match or competition not within those definitions in Rule A2, including
but not limited to any football match or competition sanctioned by
UEFA, or FIFA, or by any other association, federation or governing body.
(c) A Participant shall not use any information relating to football which the
Participant has obtained by virtue of his or her position within the game
and which is not publicly available at that time for or in relation to betting.
(d) Where a Participant provides to any other person any information
relating to football which the Participant has obtained by virtue of his or
her position within the game and which is not publicly available at that
time, the Participant shall be in breach of this Rule where any of that
information is used by that other person for or in relation to betting.
(e) It shall be a defence to a charge brought pursuant to sub-paragraph E8(2)(d)
if a Participant can establish, on the balance of probability, that the
Participant provided any such information in circumstances where he
did not know, and could not reasonably have known, that the information
provided would be used by the other person for or in relation to betting.
(3) An individual Participant, when acting in a personal capacity, shall not be permitted
to advertise or promote any betting activity that the Participant is prohibited from
engaging in by Rule E8(1) or E8(2).

ATTEMPTS AND AGREEMENTS TO BREACH
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Participant) to act in breach of any provision contained in these Rules shall be treated for
the purposes of these Rules as if a breach of the relevant provisions had been committed.

COMPLIANCE WITH DECISIONS, INCLUDING SUSPENSIONS
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of The Association.
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carrying out such activity.
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Re: De Michelis charged

Postby aristation » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:56 am

Surprised he was quick enough to get the bet on in time for kick-off
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Re: De Michelis charged

Postby blues2win » Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:10 am

It's quite clear that you can be charged for passing on information resulting in bets. He could have texted a friend or friends. It is a defence that you could not reasonably have expected bets to be placed on the balance of probabilities but he's charged with 12 offences so it'll be an uphill struggle getting acquitted. The Club may suspend him pending any decision. I can't see him playing for the Club again to be honest. Vinny is out but we have back up in Sagna if necessary and there aren't many matches left to play.
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Re: De Michelis charged

Postby City64 » Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:20 am

So MDM has been playing shit on purpose ?
Not really here

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Re: De Michelis charged

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:23 am

Demi could shag Pellers wife and still get picked. Nobody's sure what he's actually done yet so we'll wait and see if it's naughty or just stupidity.
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Re: De Michelis charged

Postby PeterParker » Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:26 am

I think he might be facing a big ban. UEFA does not play with this thing.

The rules are based on the directives of UEFA. A romanian manager, Sumudica, was caught placing online bets with other teams, not his own, and got 6 months. After a while and many meetings, he got 3 months, but the effects will start at the end of the season.

I am afraid that what Demi did, might go under the line of : match fixing, because he put a bet on his team. He might get a big, big ban. The rules of UEFA are weird in this case. Maybe a lawyer on the board can fill us in.

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If we use him on saturday or every game from now on, can we lose the game?
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Re: De Michelis charged

Postby Cocacolajojo » Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:37 am

I'm so glad we chose to stick with MDM instead of Denayer. It's proven, time and time again, to be a fantastic decision. This is the icing on the cake. Nay, the icing on the cake would be if we lost points. MMMM. A sweet sounding cake.
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Re: De Michelis charged

Postby Wooders » Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:43 am

Fucks sake we could end up losing points here
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Re: De Michelis charged

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:53 am

Wooders wrote:Fucks sake we could end up losing points here


Really? Is there a precedent for this?
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Re: De Michelis charged

Postby Cocacolajojo » Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:55 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Wooders wrote:Fucks sake we could end up losing points here


Really? Is there a precedent for this?


Does there need to be? ;)
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Re: De Michelis charged

Postby blues2win » Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:00 am

The Club isn't being charged, de Michelis is. There's no danger of our losing points. Actually by removing the temptation of playing him again we may gain points.
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Re: De Michelis charged

Postby Hazy2 » Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:05 am

The season of WTF is going on continues.
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Re: De Michelis charged

Postby Cocacolajojo » Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:05 am

blues2win wrote:The Club isn't being charged, de Michelis is. There's no danger of our losing points. Actually by removing the temptation of playing him again we may gain points.


Haha, true!
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