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What would you take?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:49 am
by nottsblue
After the horror show yesterday and let's be honest, we haven't been firing for a while now, what can we expect from the season now?

We are obviously still in the hunt in all competitions. For how much longer we shall see. We are clearly not going to win all four or even three of them. Could we do a double of some sorts? One has to be the League Cup. Depending on how the results go next week, I am now wondering whether we'd be best putting a full side out against Chelsea in the FA cup if we have fallen further behind in the PL. Say we are 8 points behind, I personally think the PL is out of reach and given the odds between a CL or FA cup success I would have thought it far more likely to win the FA cup.

I don't particularly care for the CL myself for various reasons but fully appreciate that's the clubs number one priority. A semi final spot in the CL is the best we are likely to achieve, which to be fair is real progress, but I'd prefer to see two Wembley finals. Next week v Spuds may well shape how our season unfolds. Get turned over again and put in a performance both individually and collectively like yesterday and we have real problems. Teams will smell blood and suddenly top 4 is under threat. I don't think we will finish outside it as it goes, but equally, it's not the given it was two weeks ago.

First or second in the PL, the League cup and a semi final place in CL would get us out of jail and be a brilliant season. Is it likely? Who knows? Would you accept top 4 and thus CL next season and the League cup as satisfactory? I think at the moment I would, but football is a funny old game and things change quickly, for the better as well as for the worse. One thing is for sure, if we play like yesterday for even half the remaining games we will get nothing and be clapping

Re: What would you take?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:57 am
by Mase
I'd take the CC and write off this season.

Re: What would you take?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:10 am
by Bluedj
nottsblue wrote:After the horror show yesterday and let's be honest, we haven't been firing for a while now, what can we expect from the season now?

We are obviously still in the hunt in all competitions. For how much longer we shall see. We are clearly not going to win all four or even three of them. Could we do a double of some sorts? One has to be the League Cup. Depending on how the results go next week, I am now wondering whether we'd be best putting a full side out against Chelsea in the FA cup if we have fallen further behind in the PL. Say we are 8 points behind, I personally think the PL is out of reach and given the odds between a CL or FA cup success I would have thought it far more likely to win the FA cup.

I don't particularly care for the CL myself for various reasons but fully appreciate that's the clubs number one priority. A semi final spot in the CL is the best we are likely to achieve, which to be fair is real progress, but I'd prefer to see two Wembley finals. Next week v Spuds may well shape how our season unfolds. Get turned over again and put in a performance both individually and collectively like yesterday and we have real problems. Teams will smell blood and suddenly top 4 is under threat. I don't think we will finish outside it as it goes, but equally, it's not the given it was two weeks ago.

First or second in the PL, the League cup and a semi final place in CL would get us out of jail and be a brilliant season. Is it likely? Who knows? Would you accept top 4 and thus CL next season and the League cup as satisfactory? I think at the moment I would, but football is a funny old game and things change quickly, for the better as well as for the worse. One thing is for sure, if we play like yesterday for even half the remaining games we will get nothing and be clapping


If we play like we did yesterday, I can see us winning sweet FA> I watched MOD this morning and make no mistake, Spurs are on fire and currently we'll do well to get anything out of the game on current form. Squad selection per game will be the key to the rest of the season. Will we win anything or miss top 4, likely. The team needs to grow some steel balls and passion!!

Re: What would you take?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:26 am
by blue scooter
no fight in the team yesterday. they weren't technicaly better than us they were on a different planet, and had the ability to fight for every thing .
the defence is a disgrace and we will hope vince comes back to save us but at 29 no future plans for a defence that is rocky .
ya ya is in his final season as for merlin well doesn't look intrested . sterling has shown what most scousers said about him hes a average player at best .
everyone has felt sorry for pelli but this is his team with no plan b or at the moment no plan a????????????????????

Re: What would you take?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:39 am
by Wooders
Anything above 4th place league wise

Re: What would you take?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:38 pm
by Dimples
To me top 4 looks very very dodgy.

11 games left again'st teams with something to play for.
By that I mean the opposition will fight from start to finish in those games.
What about our players? Yesterday, with it all to play for they just folded - end of.

Several players know they are on their way come the end of the season.
If they don't match the opposition's appetite for battle we will drop a lot of points.
I think we will drop a lot of points.

Home:
Top 4 rivals: Spurs, Man Utd, Arsenal
Premiership survival: Aston Villa, West Brom
Mid table: Stoke

Away:
Hatred: Liverpool, Chelsea
Premiership survival: Norwich, Bournemouth, Swansea, Newcastle
Mid table: Southhamton

I was very positive up until yesterday (even thought we had a shout in the CL - now I feel foolish about that). Not any more.
Yesterday when it got tough - the players did not have the heart to battle, I mean really battle.
Put it another way - I never saw a display like that from a team that included: Lee, Bell, Summerbee, Doyle, Booth, Book, Oakes, et al.

I hope this is an over reaction on my part to yesterday's mauling.
Top 4 - very didgy.
To me it looks like Pep's first target could be to get us a CL spot?

Re: What would you take?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:34 pm
by Blue Since 76
Dimples wrote:To me top 4 looks very very dodgy.

11 games left again'st teams with something to play for.
By that I mean the opposition will fight from start to finish in those games.
What about our players? Yesterday, with it all to play for they just folded - end of.

Several players know they are on their way come the end of the season.
If they don't match the opposition's appetite for battle we will drop a lot of points.
I think we will drop a lot of points.

Home:
Top 4 rivals: Spurs, Man Utd, Arsenal
Premiership survival: Aston Villa, West Brom
Mid table: Stoke

Away:
Hatred: Liverpool, Chelsea
Premiership survival: Norwich, Bournemouth, Swansea, Newcastle
Mid table: Southhamton

I was very positive up until yesterday (even thought we had a shout in the CL - now I feel foolish about that). Not any more.
Yesterday when it got tough - the players did not have the heart to battle, I mean really battle.
Put it another way - I never saw a display like that from a team that included: Lee, Bell, Summerbee, Doyle, Booth, Book, Oakes, et al.

I hope this is an over reaction on my part to yesterday's mauling.
Top 4 - very didgy.
To me it looks like Pep's first target could be to get us a CL spot?


We haven't beaten a team in the top 6 all season and we have to play 4 of them in the run in, plus Chelsea. Not expecting 15 points from that lot for a start

Re: What would you take?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:38 pm
by Hutch's Shoulder
Any trophy and life will be good while we wait for Pep.

Re: What would you take?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:56 pm
by phips
Mase wrote:I'd take the CC and write off this season.

yup. and top 3.

Re: What would you take?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:10 pm
by mr_nool
Ending ahead of the rags and getting top 4.
Winning the league cup would be a nice bonus.

Re: What would you take?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:16 pm
by branny
Top 4. Anything else is a bonus.

Re: What would you take?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:54 pm
by sheblue
It won't be too long before we're 5th. So top four would be the bonus.

Re: What would you take?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:05 pm
by CTID Hants
mr_nool wrote:Ending ahead of the rags and getting top 4.


That plus league cup, it's a shit journey home from Wembley when we've lost, I've done it twice and I only live 25 miles away.

Cannot even imagine how it must have felt like for you guys heading back to Manc, at least I was home within the hour (and in the case of wigan game able to get dry clothes on).

Re: What would you take?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:13 pm
by budfox
Any one of the four trophies we still have a chance to win, and a top four finish.

Re: What would you take?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:02 pm
by branny
sheblue wrote:It won't be too long before we're 5th. So top four would be the bonus.


I'm hoping Kompany is back for good this time. That should give some of them the kick up the arse they need and keep 5th at arms length.

Re: What would you take?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:13 pm
by Sister of fu
I would happily take someone bothering using one of the many state of the art video suites at our multi billion training complex and watching our games and making some attempt to see what is going so horribly wrong on the pitch. Same thing, week in and week out. You don't have to be good to beat us you just need to try a bit harder. I am still so angry about yesterday.

Re: What would you take?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:14 pm
by failsworthblue
4th.

Re: What would you take?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:33 pm
by Cocacolajojo1
A new medical team and top four.

Re: What would you take?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:52 pm
by Hazy2
Sister of fu wrote:I would happily take someone bothering using one of the many state of the art video suites at our multi billion training complex and watching our games and making some attempt to see what is going so horribly wrong on the pitch. Same thing, week in and week out. You don't have to be good to beat us you just need to try a bit harder. I am still so angry about yesterday.


Freeze Frame and let the players explain...

Re: What would you take?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:12 pm
by ruralblue
Too many games left in league to think what i would take right now. Anythin can happen. I will take the CC end of this month and a draw in Kiev. After that see what happens.

What I want? The lot@

What I think will happen, CC, second to Leicester, out of FA Cup in this round and CL semi.