phips wrote:maybe its the combination of them together thats causing them both to be poor. id be interested in maybe seeing the Sterling-Silva-Navas trio that worked so well prior to Kevin's arrival.
Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:KDB looks more of a flat track bully with each passing week.
aaron bond wrote:A lot of our best football this season has been when we've had Navas and Sterling on the wings. Neither might be as technically good as Yaya, Silva or KDB but we have a better shape when they both play.
Pellegrini likes to play what he thinks are his best players, and not always what is the best team. We had a similar issue with Nasri/Silva - sometimes it's better to play just 1 and not both.
Spurge wrote:aaron bond wrote:A lot of our best football this season has been when we've had Navas and Sterling on the wings. Neither might be as technically good as Yaya, Silva or KDB but we have a better shape when they both play.
Pellegrini likes to play what he thinks are his best players, and not always what is the best team. We had a similar issue with Nasri/Silva - sometimes it's better to play just 1 and not both.
On the Pellegrini front where wanting to play what he thinks are his best players, I have a different theory on that - though it is just a theory. He's very much a 442 man, and many see him as stubborn. So why does he seldom play 442 nowadays?
I think he's been 'encouraged' by the ex barca boys upstairs to play a different formation and you could argue with some justification - last season 442 stopped working as well for us and when we reverted to playing 1 up top towards the end of the season we won 6 on the bounce.
With that in mind KDB and sterling joined in the summer which in essence should fit in well with the new formation 4-2-3-1 allowing some flexibility as both can switch to central and wide positions, Sterling can also play a striking role. But its unlikely if you spend nearly £100m on those two that you will then play 442 every week (though I wish we played it more often than we do). So I think Pellers is operating under certain restrictions, it may be we are already adopting Pep's way - if this is the case it must be very frustrating for Pellers.
I would say that in 4-2-3-1 the 2 would provide stronger protection to the back 4 if it consisted of 2 from Delph or the 2 Ferns (not Yaya), though even that wouldn't have meant Otamendi's error would have been avoided . Yesterday I thought Silva looked largely ineffective, which is strange as you would have thought the formation should suit him as much as anybody.
Fidel Castro wrote:Have been more detrimental in our away games this season than Yaya. Nacho came on and did twice as much as those 2 combined. At least one of them needs to be dropped away from home. Either play with Raheem and Navas on wings and one of Dave/Kev off Kün or fuck em both off and play Nacho with Kün
phips wrote:maybe its the combination of them together thats causing them both to be poor. id be interested in maybe seeing the Sterling-Silva-Navas trio that worked so well prior to Kevin's arrival.
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:KDB looks more of a flat track bully with each passing week.
This.
We'll need one at times, but it isn't away from home against top half teams when the pressure is on. Silva I know can do that. Sterling and navas for me too.
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Oh and the commontator said kdb has been involved in every single game since he arrived. He even said early he couldn't play every match at high quality. Give the lad a rest I say.
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:The benefit of playing Sterling and Navas is the balance it brings to the team as has been said but it's also their defensive qualities and pace that helps a lot as well. Both help out defensively much better than either KDB or Silva.
We have the numbers and quality in midfield to be able to rotate the squad and give the likes of Yaya/Silva especially the rests they need but we don't seem to do it or at least not well. Iheanacho for me has been massively underused. Didn't Pellers say at some point that he isn't a lone front man type player? He is probably right so he can and should have been used as anything from a wide player in a front 3 to a number 10 second striker role.
Yesterday he came on and seemed to sit behind Kun and immediately had an impact finding space and linking well. It's just crazy to see him on the bench when out of form players get picked because of their reputation.
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