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I see the BBC have put out an injury table for all the teams, seeming how the Arse and scouse have been publicly banging on about how poor they have had it all season and how they have been unlucky as they have been "Decimated" by the injury crisis!

Well we have had 8 more injuries than the nearest team!! not as many long term but Fuck me this is depressing to look at!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35313650

Wonderwall wrote:I see the BBC have put out an injury table for all the teams, seeming how the Arse and scouse have been publicly banging on about how poor they have had it all season and how they have been unlucky as they have been "Decimated" by the injury crisis!

Well we have had 8 more injuries than the nearest team!! not as many long term but Fuck me this is depressing to look at!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35313650

Highest total injuries and highest (joint) players injured - it's an outpatients we need not an Academy...............................

Great thread, funny how not a murmur from the media.

Hazy2 wrote:Great thread, funny how not a murmur from the media.

Yes, but moneybags City have 300 first team players to chose from and have £500 squillion pounds (oil money) to spend, blah blah blah..................

dave watson's perm wrote:

Hazy2 wrote:Great thread, funny how not a murmur from the media.

Yes, but moneybags City have 300 first team players to chose from and have £500 squillion pounds (oil money) to spend, blah blah blah..................

prem league squad of 25 players sees 47 different injuries? Would be interesting to see how many are squad or B list injuries

Wonderwall wrote:

dave watson's perm wrote:

Hazy2 wrote:Great thread, funny how not a murmur from the media.

Yes, but moneybags City have 300 first team players to chose from and have £500 squillion pounds (oil money) to spend, blah blah blah..................

prem league squad of 25 players sees 47 different injuries? Would be interesting to see how many are squad or B list injuries

Our injury table has a wonky leg.

I think part of this may be down to the change in training venue. It would be interesting to see if other clubs have had similar problems in years gone by.

I think we changed late last season, but maybe these things are cumulative and wear down susceptible bits of some players bodies over time.

Crossie wrote:I think part of this may be down to the change in training venue. It would be interesting to see if other clubs have had similar problems in years gone by.

I think we changed late last season, but maybe these things are cumulative and wear down susceptible bits of some players bodies over time.

That thought crossed my mind too, our upturn in injuries seemed to coincide with our move to the CFA.

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:

Crossie wrote:I think part of this may be down to the change in training venue. It would be interesting to see if other clubs have had similar problems in years gone by.

I think we changed late last season, but maybe these things are cumulative and wear down susceptible bits of some players bodies over time.

That thought crossed my mind too, our upturn in injuries seemed to coincide with our move to the CFA.

I remember them discussing more frequent injuries to modern footballers on BBC 5Live recently. An agreed comment among the ex footballers was made that the construction of a lot of modern pitches were too hard, this was the sacrifice for them looking so good.
It was said it was "more like playing on concrete"!
Perhaps the new training pitches have a similar construction?

Plain Speaking wrote:

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:

Crossie wrote:I think part of this may be down to the change in training venue. It would be interesting to see if other clubs have had similar problems in years gone by.

I think we changed late last season, but maybe these things are cumulative and wear down susceptible bits of some players bodies over time.

That thought crossed my mind too, our upturn in injuries seemed to coincide with our move to the CFA.

I remember them discussing more frequent injuries to modern footballers on BBC 5Live recently. An agreed comment among the ex footballers was made that the construction of a lot of modern pitches were too hard, this was the sacrifice for them looking so good.
It was said it was "more like playing on concrete"!
Perhaps the new training pitches have a similar construction?

The same type of surface that's on the Etihad pitch is used in the CFA.

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:

Plain Speaking wrote:

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:

Crossie wrote:I think part of this may be down to the change in training venue. It would be interesting to see if other clubs have had similar problems in years gone by.

I think we changed late last season, but maybe these things are cumulative and wear down susceptible bits of some players bodies over time.

That thought crossed my mind too, our upturn in injuries seemed to coincide with our move to the CFA.

I remember them discussing more frequent injuries to modern footballers on BBC 5Live recently. An agreed comment among the ex footballers was made that the construction of a lot of modern pitches were too hard, this was the sacrifice for them looking so good.
It was said it was "more like playing on concrete"!
Perhaps the new training pitches have a similar construction?

The same type of surface that's on the Etihad pitch is used in the CFA.

I suspected that may have been the case.
Pat Nevin was certainly convinced that if the pitches were softer there would be less injuries. He said he had heard of a manager who had instructed the grounds staff to make the strips down the wings softer to get less injuries for his wingers and full backs bombing up and down. Accepting that the central areas had to be harder and more resilient.

Take Zaba and Aguero as e.g.s of our injuries. The season before last we played nearly 60 games and then these 2 went to the WC and got all the way to the final. Similar number of games last season then the Copa America and went along way again. Add that to the pre season flights to USA and Aus and Virtnam then 30 games so far this season. The injuries are not the fault of the medical staff or the CFA. You wouldn't treat a race horse like that . It's too much footie and travel etc.

Do we have state of the art injury management? It sounds obvious for a club like us, but I read a good article about Leicester having a cryogenic facility, oxygen therapy and some radical forward thinking capabilities. I haven't heard anything about what we do, but hopefully more than a magic sponge, and better still if it's somewhere we invest as heavily as we do in our academy.

The Maine Man wrote:Do we have state of the art injury management? It sounds obvious for a club like us, but I read a good article about Leicester having a cryogenic facility, oxygen therapy and some radical forward thinking capabilities. I haven't heard anything about what we do, but hopefully more than a magic sponge, and better still if it's somewhere we invest as heavily as we do in our academy.

We've got all the bells and whistles - there was a thing about it around the time the Academy opened - all state of the art. Sod all good it's done us this season though.

"The building that houses City's first-team squad contains a hypoxic chamber where players can run at altitude or in extreme temperatures, a hydro-therapy area for treating injuries and even a hydro treadmill with underwater cameras to monitor a player's movement. "

Surprised the boots the players wear these days don't get a mention. Carpet slippers in comparison to days gone by and I'm only talking twenty odd years

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:

Plain Speaking wrote:

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:

Crossie wrote:I think part of this may be down to the change in training venue. It would be interesting to see if other clubs have had similar problems in years gone by.

I think we changed late last season, but maybe these things are cumulative and wear down susceptible bits of some players bodies over time.

That thought crossed my mind too, our upturn in injuries seemed to coincide with our move to the CFA.

I remember them discussing more frequent injuries to modern footballers on BBC 5Live recently. An agreed comment among the ex footballers was made that the construction of a lot of modern pitches were too hard, this was the sacrifice for them looking so good.
It was said it was "more like playing on concrete"!
Perhaps the new training pitches have a similar construction?

The same type of surface that's on the Etihad pitch is used in the CFA.

Many if not all of the new pitches have fibres woven into them to stop divots and the surface cutting up. Makes the surface less forgiving.

Surface can't be that noticeably bad, it doesn't stop players running and jumping onto their knees and sliding 20 yds whilst leaving two drainage channels behind them. I bet the groundsmen loves those players!

It does make you wonder about the modern game. Pitches are so different nowadays to what they were in the seventies. So are boots. Fitness levels are supposedly so much higher, you can't tackle a player any more without getting sent off. Yet, players seem to get so many strains and muscle injuries compared to how things used to be. Could be my memory of how footballers were is clouded by childhood rosy tinted glasses.
The game is definitely faster but the amount of heavy impact tackles is so low compared to years ago. Forward and wingers took a lot more abuse, years ago.
There's probably a lot more football played for top teams now at a higher intensity, but it does make you wonder if the pampering of these superstars has a lot to do with these stats as well. Particularly for minor strains. Is it just fatigue or laziness.

Dameerto wrote:

The Maine Man wrote:Do we have state of the art injury management? It sounds obvious for a club like us, but I read a good article about Leicester having a cryogenic facility, oxygen therapy and some radical forward thinking capabilities. I haven't heard anything about what we do, but hopefully more than a magic sponge, and better still if it's somewhere we invest as heavily as we do in our academy.

We've got all the bells and whistles - there was a thing about it around the time the Academy opened - all state of the art. Sod all good it's done us this season though.

"The building that houses City's first-team squad contains a hypoxic chamber where players can run at altitude or in extreme temperatures, a hydro-therapy area for treating injuries and even a hydro treadmill with underwater cameras to monitor a player's movement. "

All that is good stuff but it's not exactly ground breaking, whereas Leicester's cryogenic facility is. If we haven't gone down that route is like to know when we will. We are making huge progress but we haven't nailed it in every area off the pitch. I recently visited the Nou Camp and then took my boys for the Etihad tour. There was no comparison, it was Disney vs Gulliver's World.

The Maine Man wrote:

Dameerto wrote:

The Maine Man wrote:Do we have state of the art injury management? It sounds obvious for a club like us, but I read a good article about Leicester having a cryogenic facility, oxygen therapy and some radical forward thinking capabilities. I haven't heard anything about what we do, but hopefully more than a magic sponge, and better still if it's somewhere we invest as heavily as we do in our academy.

We've got all the bells and whistles - there was a thing about it around the time the Academy opened - all state of the art. Sod all good it's done us this season though.

"The building that houses City's first-team squad contains a hypoxic chamber where players can run at altitude or in extreme temperatures, a hydro-therapy area for treating injuries and even a hydro treadmill with underwater cameras to monitor a player's movement. "

All that is good stuff but it's not exactly ground breaking, whereas Leicester's cryogenic facility is. If we haven't gone down that route is like to know when we will. We are making huge progress but we haven't nailed it in every area off the pitch. I recently visited the Nou Camp and then took my boys for the Etihad tour. There was no comparison, it was Disney vs Gulliver's World.

Which was which?


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