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Would it suddenly make Aguero and Kompany useful to the team for more than half season?

Would it magically make Yaya just as good as he was in his pomp?

Would Sterling be able to control a football and not fall over?

Would we not be reliant on the likes of Fernando, Navas, Demichelis and Bony if we pick up a few injuries?

I want a new manager in, but there's no point til end of season. We also need to refresh the squad and get rid of our midtable players. I'd also seriously consider any potential Real Madrid bid for Aguero and Kompany and replace with world class players who you can actually rely on

This makes a lot of sense to me. There is no surprise in the knee jerk reaction and comments after the shambles on Saturday, but I don’t think making changes now would help us in the long run. Are we seriously saying that we sack The Count after 15 games, bring a new person for the next five months and then take Pep? Who would take that job? And what would it do to the team?

I don’t doubt that Manuel will be gone in June 2016, and I think that has been the plan for the entire season.

It’s also worth considering ( and has been said before ), that if you were our owners and looking at things in general, we are in the semi finals of the league cup, progressed to the next round of the CL with two games to spare and have been at the top of the table for 12 out of 15 weeks. All of this without the benefit of our strongest team on a regular basis.

The next few months will be very telling on all fronts, and we can throw in the FA Cup from tonight, but getting rid of the manager now is not the answer.
I also agree with Fidel about finding players that can perform week in week out. It’s quite worrying that can’t keep our most important players fit.
This is more complicated than simply ‘sack the manager’, but I have to believe that there is plan somewhere.

Sack the medical team instead.

Fidel Castro wrote: I'd also seriously consider any potential Real Madrid bid for Aguero and Kompany and replace with world class players who you can actually rely on

such as?

CuteMancs wrote:It’s also worth considering ( and has been said before ), that if you were our owners and looking at things in general, we are in the semi finals of the league cup, progressed to the next round of the CL with two games to spare and have been at the top of the table for 12 out of 15 weeks. All of this without the benefit of our strongest team on a regular basis.

Thats the key point for me. Way too much over reaction on here from losing 2 games.

bigblue wrote:

CuteMancs wrote:It’s also worth considering ( and has been said before ), that if you were our owners and looking at things in general, we are in the semi finals of the league cup, progressed to the next round of the CL with two games to spare and have been at the top of the table for 12 out of 15 weeks. All of this without the benefit of our strongest team on a regular basis.

Thats the key point for me. Way too much over reaction on here from losing 2 games.

Overreaction? Please. Go back and look at the numbers since we've won the league and you'll find an uneven, underachieving team who've played like absolute fucksticks on so many occasions that it isn't even funny.

We're the spitting image of our manager right now. Cool calm and fucking not bothered by anything.

Someone needs to throw a toy robot against the wall Don Draper style and mix this shit up and get some cunts giving a fuck.

And I'm sorry but the injury records of vinnie and Kun take the piss as Fiddler says. I'd sell Kun for 80m this summer if Real came in. Straight swap with tranny? You betcha.

Cheers

bigblue wrote:

CuteMancs wrote:It’s also worth considering ( and has been said before ), that if you were our owners and looking at things in general, we are in the semi finals of the league cup, progressed to the next round of the CL with two games to spare and have been at the top of the table for 12 out of 15 weeks. All of this without the benefit of our strongest team on a regular basis.

Thats the key point for me. Way too much over reaction on here from losing 2 games.

I agree that there has been some OTT posts since the loss, however, its not just the two games. We have been lucky not to lose more. It goes deeper than just a loss por two, its the lack of action when things are not going right. A good example of this was the game against Barcelona where he came out after the game and said in the first 45 minutes, the players didnt play as they were told to, in the send 45 minutes they did. Do you think the likes of Jurgen Klopp would sit and snooze in his chair if the players are not carrying out his orders? I know Pellers is a laid back person and thats his coaching style. However, sometimes things need changing BEFORE we end up in the shit. Also his team selection and tactics against Liverpool was completely mind boggling?

I am not a Manager OUT person and never have been, but pellers needs to sort this shit out.

Stoke was the ideal Stadium to let him and the players know we are experts in watching players going through the motions, I have seen more bad than good. Saturday has to be the last time the collective fail. I know the away support are fantastic I travel, however Saturday was a piss take. Pellers has to sort it out or go, he is creating a who gives a fuck club.

I agree with WW

Whilst we can sit back and say we are in SF of the League Cup, through to the knock out stages of the CL and sitting in 3rd in the league that can all change mighty damn quickly as we have seen in previous years. A shitty draw in the FAC 3rd round this evening is all we need!

It's the trend that is worrying me. It's not as if we are bossing games and losing to harsh decisions, late penalties, better teams, etc. We are playing like a team who don't appear to give a shit with an unanimated manager with another statue sat beside him.

It is also clear that the fitness of Aguero and Kompany can no longer be relied on and add in to the mix that our 1st XI ain't getting any younger either.

The rot needs to stop and pretty damn quickly if we are to stop the slide - what happens if we miss out on CL next season? Will Guardiola still be interested?

Some of these posts need their own dramatic theme tune.

We have these ideas that were this big club but we're not. Big clubs srike fear into the opposition, we don't. We're soft as shit and easy to beat. Saturday was embarrassing.

I don't see the likes of Barca or Munich turning out inept performances on such a regular basis. It's now becoming the norm for us to roll over and have our belly tickled. The rags were fearsome back in the day and defeated teams before they even stepped on the pitch, how I wish we were more like that.

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Some of these posts need their own dramatic theme tune.

Stoked up by the afternoon stroll to another arse kicking. Losing is not for me any way to much to bare, I will still here no matter what, it is the timid way we fold and accept the like of Arnautović strolling around laughing at our players.

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Some of these posts need their own dramatic theme tune.

Indeed they do.

There is a few things wrong, no doubt about that. But all mainly related to key players being injured. Pellegrini makes some fuck ups with team selections from time to time, like they all do, but the bullshit about wanting him hopping around on the side line showing great emotion is completely ridiculous.
When we were hitting similar form under Mancini, his jumping around did nothing to change what was happening on the pitch. The work is done on the training pitch, with most, if not all of your key players available.

To go the odd game with key players missing is normal. To go through the whole season so far without them ever playing together puts a ridiculous strain on the side.

Sure we bought players to step in for the odd game that our key players miss, but these back up players are playing MORE than our key players. When that happens regularly, we are not the team that the bookies made favourites. IT is NOT the same team.

The fact that we were top of the table until Saturday, with Aguero, Silva and Kompany (three of the WORLD'S greatest players in their positions) missing for most of the season was really good going. Seriously impressive.

There is no excuse for exactly how shit we were at Stoke. Some days there are no excuses. But to want the guy sacked when he has missed his three best players, for such an amount of games is way over the top.

You take Messi, Suarez and Neymar out of Barca and see how they get on, for any prolonged period.
Same goes for any other top side.

We have been very unlucky this season so far with injuries and for some to just brush that under the table is pathetic.

I hope we start to get a good run with these guys back playing together, because we are an excellent side that will pull away from the rest if this happens. Without having to sack the manager for the tea lady or Brian fucking Kidd.

Not happening since we can very well turn things around and are in every competition.

I am not comfortable trusting Kidd with the reigns and we are not bringing in Ancelotti I think, who I am also more lukewarm on compared to Pep due to his lack of "fire," even if you can argue he is a better tactician and more successful than Pellegrini.

Just for the sake of it...would folks take Mourinho if he's sacked?

PrezIke wrote:Not happening since we can very well turn things around and are in every competition.

I am not comfortable trusting Kidd with the reigns and we are not bringing in Ancelotti I think, who I am also more lukewarm on compared to Pep due to his lack of "fire," even if you can argue he is a better tactician and more successful than Pellegrini.

Just for the sake of it...would folks take Mourinho if he's sacked?

I would NEVER want that wanker anywhere near City.

No to the twat 1 yes to the Pellers opening his mind to tweaks and adjustment when the opos have us by the balls which happened again Saturday. 433 over runs us.

Sacking him now would be a complete disaster. The best option is to keep him on and hope that injuries clear up a bit, although injuries are not the sole problem, they are only part of the equation.
Last season we slumped but finished well, so he sort of turned it then, hopefully this seasons 'slump' will pass soon.
No matter what, he will be gone in the summer.

Wonderwall wrote:

PrezIke wrote:Not happening since we can very well turn things around and are in every competition.

I am not comfortable trusting Kidd with the reigns and we are not bringing in Ancelotti I think, who I am also more lukewarm on compared to Pep due to his lack of "fire," even if you can argue he is a better tactician and more successful than Pellegrini.

Just for the sake of it...would folks take Mourinho if he's sacked?

I would NEVER want that wanker anywhere near City.

.....That

Pellegrini has managed in a worse environment than he is currently at with City. Malaga failed to pay any of their players and started selling their better players after their owner decided to throw his toys out of the pram. He finished in a Champions League place that season and in the following season, he nearly took them to a semi final place, against Klopp's Dortmund. At Real Madrid after Mourinho was rubber stamped for the next season within a couple of months of his tenure and with both Sneijder and Robben being sold (players he wanted to keep), and having to Integrate their latest batch of star signings within 3 points of an all conquering Barcelona side led by Guardiola. As for the rest of the season he has the owners backing and that is good enough for me.

PrezIke wrote:Not happening since we can very well turn things around and are in every competition.

I am not comfortable trusting Kidd with the reigns and we are not bringing in Ancelotti I think, who I am also more lukewarm on compared to Pep due to his lack of "fire," even if you can argue he is a better tactician and more successful than Pellegrini.

Just for the sake of it...would folks take Mourinho if he's sacked?

I would. Mourinho in charge of this lot starting today would win the league this year no doubt imo.

I think we're stuck with Manuel no matter what until the summer. In an hindsight sending Paddy V away now doesn't seem such a good idea as it would've been so easy to promote him temporarily as the manager if things go pear shaped with Pellers.

But hopefully MP has a Beanie or something in his bag to turn our fortunes :-)