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Re: FIFA scandal grows

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:37 am
by PeterParker
They can fuck off.

Fuck you Platini and your FFP.

Re: FIFA scandal grows

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:49 am
by Peter Doherty (AGAIG)
Well, that's Platini fucked. I wonder which corrupt official will be stepping into his shoes?

Re: FIFA scandal grows

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:27 am
by Wonderwall
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:Well, that's Platini fucked. I wonder which corrupt official will be stepping into his shoes?


Probably Gill.

However I hope it's David Ginola for comedy value.
I think Figo will start to become more to the media fore now platini is suspended.

Re: FIFA scandal grows

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:05 pm
by Peter Doherty (AGAIG)
Wonderwall wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:Well, that's Platini fucked. I wonder which corrupt official will be stepping into his shoes?


Probably Gill.

However I hope it's David Ginola for comedy value.
I think Figo will start to become more to the media fore now platini is suspended.

Sans grey hair, no doubt.

Re: FIFA scandal grows

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:16 pm
by Hutch's Shoulder
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:Well, that's Platini fucked. I wonder which corrupt official will be stepping into his shoes?


None of the candidates at the last election had much to recommend them other than not being Sepp. The fact that Sepp would win anyway probably discouraged others from coming forward. Hopefully that will be different this time.

Re: FIFA scandal grows

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:01 pm
by City64
Surely we can sue UEFA now for all the FFP corrupt shit ?? Really hoping Blatter and Platini end up behind bars the fat fucking bent bastards !!!!

Re: FIFA scandal grows

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:40 pm
by Original Dub
I just hope they lock up that horrible, fat, corrupt cunt Platini and show the whole world what he truly is.
But they need to make sure that whoever steps in is someone from the outside, not another corrupt fuck like David Gill or anyone else who worked under him, admiring his every move and backing the likes of Financial Play (I'm refusing the use the word "fair" any more, it doesn't make any sense).

This whole thing gives me a glimmer of hope that corruption may well be stifled, if not stamped out during my life time.

Fingers and toes crossed.

Re: FIFA scandal grows

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:41 pm
by JamieMCFC
City64 wrote:Surely we can sue UEFA now for all the FFP corrupt shit ?? Really hoping Blatter and Platini end up behind bars the fat fucking bent bastards !!!!


The club probably won't go that route. It's not allowed under the bylaws of FIFA. If we did sue UEFA through the normal courts then England could be banned from all international competitions. Could you imagine if that were to happen the backlash from the public and media? I know most of us wouldn't care about that. But some of our sponsors would because it would be damage to the brand we are trying to build.

Re: FIFA scandal grows

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:04 pm
by bigblue
Hopefully this will also blowback on Greg Dyke (and the FA), one of the most incompetent men I've seen in a public position. He was backing Blatter and Plantini up until a few days ago. The corrupt fucker continually opens his mouth without ever engaging his brain

Re: FIFA scandal grows

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:26 pm
by Tokyo Blue
bigblue wrote:Hopefully this will also blowback on Greg Dyke (and the FA), one of the most incompetent men I've seen in a public position. He was backing Blatter and Plantini up until a few days ago. The corrupt fucker continually opens his mouth without ever engaging his brain


Typical fucking mune then.

JamieMCFC wrote:The club probably won't go that route. It's not allowed under the bylaws of FIFA. If we did sue UEFA through the normal courts then England could be banned from all international competitions. Could you imagine if that were to happen the backlash from the public and media? I know most of us wouldn't care about that. But some of our sponsors would because it would be damage to the brand we are trying to build.


Have you got a source for that, please, mate?

Re: FIFA scandal grows

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:50 pm
by JamieMCFC
Tokyo Blue wrote:
bigblue wrote:Hopefully this will also blowback on Greg Dyke (and the FA), one of the most incompetent men I've seen in a public position. He was backing Blatter and Plantini up until a few days ago. The corrupt fucker continually opens his mouth without ever engaging his brain


Typical fucking mune then.

JamieMCFC wrote:The club probably won't go that route. It's not allowed under the bylaws of FIFA. If we did sue UEFA through the normal courts then England could be banned from all international competitions. Could you imagine if that were to happen the backlash from the public and media? I know most of us wouldn't care about that. But some of our sponsors would because it would be damage to the brand we are trying to build.


Have you got a source for that, please, mate?


It looks like it is allowed on a limited basis. Not sure what those would be. Every time a suit has been brought by a club against their confederation or league. FIFA has threatened to ban their national team and the suit is quickly dropped.

68 Obligation
1.
The Confederations, Members and Leagues shall agree to recognise CAS as
an independent judicial authority and to ensure that their members, affiliated
Players and Officials comply with the decisions passed by CAS. The same
obligation shall apply to intermediaries and licensed match agents.
2.
Recourse to ordinary courts of law is prohibited unless specifically provided
for in the FIFA regulations. Recourse to ordinary courts of law for all types of
provisional measures is also prohibited.
3.
The Associations shall insert a clause in their statutes or regulations, stipulating
that it is prohibited to take disputes in the Association or disputes affecting
Leagues, members of Leagues, Clubs, members of Clubs, Players, Officials and
other Association Officials to ordinary courts of law, unless the FIFA regulations
or binding legal provisions specifically provide for or stipulate recourse to
ordinary courts of law. Instead of recourse to ordinary courts of law, provision
shall be made for arbitration. Such disputes shall be taken to an independent
and duly constituted arbitration tribunal recognised under the rules of the
Association or Confederation or to CAS.
The Associations shall also ensure that this stipulation is implemented in the
Association, if necessary by imposing a binding obligation on its members.
The Associations shall impose sanctions on any party that fails to respect this
obligation and ensure that any appeal against such sanctions shall likewise be
strictly submitted to arbitration, and not to ordinary courts of law.

http://resources.fifa.com/mm/document/a ... eutral.pdf

Re: FIFA scandal grows

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:38 pm
by Plain Speaking
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:Well, that's Platini fucked. I wonder which corrupt official will be stepping into his shoes?

Its a pity David Bernstein isn't a bit younger he's 72, he would be a safe and trustworthy candidate. Gill 58 is still a director on United's board as well having positions in FA Uefa and Fifa.

Re: FIFA scandal grows

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:42 pm
by Tokyo Blue
JamieMCFC wrote:It looks like it is allowed on a limited basis. Not sure what those would be. Every time a suit has been brought by a club against their confederation or league. FIFA has threatened to ban their national team and the suit is quickly dropped.

http://resources.fifa.com/mm/document/a ... eutral.pdf

Thanks, Jamie!

So there is a (presumably independent, although with FIFA you never bloody know) arbitration system City could go to to get the money back, plus compensation.

Re: FIFA scandal grows

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:47 pm
by Mase
Plain Speaking wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:Well, that's Platini fucked. I wonder which corrupt official will be stepping into his shoes?

Its a pity David Bernstein isn't a bit younger he's 72, he would be a safe and trustworthy candidate. Gill 58 is still a director on United's board as well having positions in FA Uefa and Fifa.


72?! Flipping eck I feel old now.

Re: FIFA scandal grows

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:48 pm
by blues2win
BBC says Platini can't produce a contract for the 1.3 million payment.

Re: FIFA scandal grows

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:01 pm
by blues2win
It also says that Platini claimed the work was done between 1998 and 2002 and paid in 2011. Apparently under Swiss law you cannot claim under any contract written or oral after 5 years have elapsed.

Re: FIFA scandal grows

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:06 pm
by Dameerto
blues2win wrote:It also says that Platini claimed the work was done between 1998 and 2002 and paid in 2011. Apparently under Swiss law you cannot claim under any contract written or oral after 5 years have elapsed.

They can't legally claim (with the weight of Swiss law behind them) after five years, and if there's no forensic trace of the deal in the first place (in the form of a contingency for future payment, or an invoice for services rendered etc) then their words are hollow and their time is up. Time to fuck off Blatter you fraud.

Re: FIFA scandal grows

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:26 pm
by Hutch's Shoulder
Today the FA suspended support for Platini's bid to replace Blatter:

FA statement read: "The FA wishes Mr Platini every success in fighting these charges and clearing his name, and has no interest in taking any action that jeopardises this process. "However, notwithstanding the above, at the Uefa meeting on Thursday, the FA learned more information relating to the issues at the centre of this case from Mr Platini's lawyers.

"We have been instructed that the information must be kept confidential and therefore we cannot go into specifics.

"As a result of learning this information, the FA Board has this morning concluded that it must suspend its support for Mr Platini's candidature for the Fifa presidency until the legal process has been concluded and the position is clear.

"A decision can then be taken on who to support in the presidential election on 26 February 2016."

UEFA continues to support Platini, saying he has to have the chance to clear his name, but a new contender has emerged in the race to lead Fifa - Asian Football Confederation president Sheikh Salman bin Ebrahim Al Khalifa.

Re: FIFA scandal grows

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:29 pm
by Wonderwall
Hutch's Shoulder wrote:Today the FA suspended support for Platini's bid to replace Blatter:

FA statement read: "The FA wishes Mr Platini every success in fighting these charges and clearing his name, and has no interest in taking any action that jeopardises this process. "However, notwithstanding the above, at the Uefa meeting on Thursday, the FA learned more information relating to the issues at the centre of this case from Mr Platini's lawyers.

"We have been instructed that the information must be kept confidential and therefore we cannot go into specifics.

"As a result of learning this information, the FA Board has this morning concluded that it must suspend its support for Mr Platini's candidature for the Fifa presidency until the legal process has been concluded and the position is clear.

"A decision can then be taken on who to support in the presidential election on 26 February 2016."

UEFA continues to support Platini, saying he has to have the chance to clear his name, but a new contender has emerged in the race to lead Fifa - Asian Football Confederation president Sheikh Salman bin Ebrahim Al Khalifa.


He is a gonner thank God. I hope he serves time. I like the sound of Whiz Khalifa too

Re: FIFA scandal grows

PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 2:04 pm
by iwasthere2012
Wonderwall wrote:
Hutch's Shoulder wrote:Today the FA suspended support for Platini's bid to replace Blatter:

FA statement read: "The FA wishes Mr Platini every success in fighting these charges and clearing his name, and has no interest in taking any action that jeopardises this process. "However, notwithstanding the above, at the Uefa meeting on Thursday, the FA learned more information relating to the issues at the centre of this case from Mr Platini's lawyers.

"We have been instructed that the information must be kept confidential and therefore we cannot go into specifics.

"As a result of learning this information, the FA Board has this morning concluded that it must suspend its support for Mr Platini's candidature for the Fifa presidency until the legal process has been concluded and the position is clear.

"A decision can then be taken on who to support in the presidential election on 26 February 2016."

UEFA continues to support Platini, saying he has to have the chance to clear his name, but a new contender has emerged in the race to lead Fifa - Asian Football Confederation president Sheikh Salman bin Ebrahim Al Khalifa.


He is a gonner thank God. I hope he serves time. I like the sound of Whiz Khalifa too


Both FIFA and UEFA could do with a Sheik up.