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Re: ' Not clear if Ed will continue'

Postby Crossie » Tue Aug 04, 2015 4:54 pm

So we got 4.5 seasons out of him? Bought for £27m sold for £14m = £13m spent for 50 goals, 2 championships 1 FA Cup and a League Cup.

Fucking bargain, success despite the fact it could have been so much better.
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Re: ' Not clear if Ed will continue'

Postby PeterParker » Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:04 pm

It's been emotional. When he was fit and in form, he could not be stopped.

Goodbye, Big Ed.
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Re: ' Not clear if Ed will continue'

Postby kennyboy » Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:15 pm

Crossie wrote:So we got 4.5 seasons out of him? Bought for £27m sold for £14m = £13m spent for 50 goals, 2 championships 1 FA Cup and a League Cup.

Fucking bargain, success despite the fact it could have been so much better.


Summed it up really well, think the time was right for him and the club to move on.
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Re: ' Not clear if Ed will continue'

Postby john@staustell » Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:19 pm

Scored some very important goals for us but fuck me he was crap
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Re: ' Not clear if Ed will continue'

Postby nottsblue » Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:21 pm

Crossie wrote:So we got 4.5 seasons out of him? Bought for £27m sold for £14m = £13m spent for 50 goals, 2 championships 1 FA Cup and a League Cup.

Fucking bargain, success despite the fact it could have been so much better.

Wouldn't disagree with this
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Re: ' Not clear if Ed will continue'

Postby Saul Goodman » Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:26 pm

So i guess thats Nacho or Sterling starting up top vs the Baggies
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Re: ' Not clear if Ed will continue'

Postby Sideshow Bob » Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:31 pm

oh thank fuck, HE'S GONE!!! (nearly)
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Re: ' Not clear if Ed will continue'

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:33 pm

Saul Goodman wrote:So i guess thats Nacho or Sterling starting up top vs the Baggies


Why's that then?
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Re: ' Not clear if Ed will continue'

Postby Nigels Tackle » Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:37 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Saul Goodman wrote:So i guess thats Nacho or Sterling starting up top vs the Baggies


Why's that then?


because bony is only just getting over a bout of ebola, hiv, typhoid and malaria
and kun has had about 2 days of preseason training
personally, i'd love to see nacho man, raheem and merlin up front at the hawthorns
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Re: ' Not clear if Ed will continue'

Postby Im_Spartacus » Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:39 pm

nottsblue wrote:
Crossie wrote:So we got 4.5 seasons out of him? Bought for £27m sold for £14m = £13m spent for 50 goals, 2 championships 1 FA Cup and a League Cup.

Fucking bargain, success despite the fact it could have been so much better.

Wouldn't disagree with this


That's the same as saying United letting Rooney go for £10m would be a good deal because then he's only cost them 1.7 a season. Completely missing the point of the market value of a player like dzeko, a proven goalscorer in more than one league, goals critical to champions in 2 countries, rarely injured, etc etc.

It's also questionable how much of the £14m we will see given he had 4 years left on his contract.
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Re: ' Not clear if Ed will continue'

Postby Cit.revenge » Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:40 pm

Crossie wrote:So we got 4.5 seasons out of him? Bought for £27m sold for £14m = £13m spent for 50 goals, 2 championships 1 FA Cup and a League Cup.

Fucking bargain, success despite the fact it could have been so much better.

Its 72 goals and 36 assist in 182 app. , So 13 mill he cost us over 4 and half years and give us all that. Good luck Edin.
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Re: ' Not clear if Ed will continue'

Postby nottsblue » Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:44 pm

Im_Spartacus wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
Crossie wrote:So we got 4.5 seasons out of him? Bought for £27m sold for £14m = £13m spent for 50 goals, 2 championships 1 FA Cup and a League Cup.

Fucking bargain, success despite the fact it could have been so much better.

Wouldn't disagree with this


That's the same as saying United letting Rooney go for £10m would be a good deal because then he's only cost them 1.7 a season. Completely missing the point of the market value of a player like dzeko, a proven goalscorer in more than one league, goals critical to champions in 2 countries, rarely injured, etc etc.

It's also questionable how much of the £14m we will see given he had 4 years left on his contract.

But then factor in that he was a player the club were clearly happy to let go and the player himself didn't appear to be too disappointed. He is 29 and his value isn't going to rise over the next year or so and there didn't appear to be a queue trying to sign him. Scored six last year and was starting to get niggling injuries. Couple of young prospects who in a year of so would've overtaken him in pecking order. Add these together and for me it's good business
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Re: ' Not clear if Ed will continue'

Postby Im_Spartacus » Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:52 pm

nottsblue wrote:
Im_Spartacus wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
Crossie wrote:So we got 4.5 seasons out of him? Bought for £27m sold for £14m = £13m spent for 50 goals, 2 championships 1 FA Cup and a League Cup.

Fucking bargain, success despite the fact it could have been so much better.

Wouldn't disagree with this


That's the same as saying United letting Rooney go for £10m would be a good deal because then he's only cost them 1.7 a season. Completely missing the point of the market value of a player like dzeko, a proven goalscorer in more than one league, goals critical to champions in 2 countries, rarely injured, etc etc.

It's also questionable how much of the £14m we will see given he had 4 years left on his contract.

But then factor in that he was a player the club were clearly happy to let go and the player himself didn't appear to be too disappointed. He is 29 and his value isn't going to rise over the next year or so and there didn't appear to be a queue trying to sign him. Scored six last year and was starting to get niggling injuries. Couple of young prospects who in a year of so would've overtaken him in pecking order. Add these together and for me it's good business


I agree to an extent with all your points, but the big question is why the fuck we gave him a 5 year deal in the middle of the season just gone if we wanted rid. Even with jusy a year left on his contract we would have still got £14m, so are Pellegrini & co just making this squad up as they go along, or is there a strategy?

I fear that the pattern we have seen for some time is of ill considered knee jerk reactions in our transfer strategies, and I see little changing on the summer's evidence.
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Re: ' Not clear if Ed will continue'

Postby Saul Goodman » Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:05 pm

Nigels Tackle wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Saul Goodman wrote:So i guess thats Nacho or Sterling starting up top vs the Baggies


Why's that then?


because bony is only just getting over a bout of ebola, hiv, typhoid and malaria
and kun has had about 2 days of preseason training
personally, i'd love to see nacho man, raheem and merlin up front at the hawthorns

My thoughts exactly
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Re: ' Not clear if Ed will continue'

Postby nottsblue » Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:17 pm

Im_Spartacus wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
Im_Spartacus wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
Crossie wrote:So we got 4.5 seasons out of him? Bought for £27m sold for £14m = £13m spent for 50 goals, 2 championships 1 FA Cup and a League Cup.

Fucking bargain, success despite the fact it could have been so much better.

Wouldn't disagree with this


That's the same as saying United letting Rooney go for £10m would be a good deal because then he's only cost them 1.7 a season. Completely missing the point of the market value of a player like dzeko, a proven goalscorer in more than one league, goals critical to champions in 2 countries, rarely injured, etc etc.

It's also questionable how much of the £14m we will see given he had 4 years left on his contract.

But then factor in that he was a player the club were clearly happy to let go and the player himself didn't appear to be too disappointed. He is 29 and his value isn't going to rise over the next year or so and there didn't appear to be a queue trying to sign him. Scored six last year and was starting to get niggling injuries. Couple of young prospects who in a year of so would've overtaken him in pecking order. Add these together and for me it's good business


I agree to an extent with all your points, but the big question is why the fuck we gave him a 5 year deal in the middle of the season just gone if we wanted rid. Even with jusy a year left on his contract we would have still got £14m, so are Pellegrini & co just making this squad up as they go along, or is there a strategy?

I fear that the pattern we have seen for some time is of ill considered knee jerk reactions in our transfer strategies, and I see little changing on the summer's evidence.

The giving of the contract last year is a strange one. Maybe the logic is we thought we would get more for him if we were to sell him. He had after all just scored over 20 goals the preceding season and I doubt many foresaw the poor season he was to have last time round. That hasn't helped his cause. I doubt we would have got £14m with a year left at 29 personally.
Maybe he fell out with either the management or had a clash with other players. Aguero rarely passed to him. Speculation. Maybe the signing of Bony put his nose out of joint. Who knows. However, once the club decides the time is right to move a player on, then if we take a loss due there being few takers, then so be it.

I too am a little perplexed by our transfer strategy. Again, we never know what goes on behind the scenes. Is co was going to sign then didn't. Same with Hazard. And Kaka a few years back. Who is to say we hadn't agreed everything to sign our targets, whomever they are/were, and then there to be an unforeseen hitch at the last minute to bugger things up? One thing I do think is that we are planning our signings around the academy. Maybe the reason we haven't added to the defence is that management firmly believe Denayer, Maffeo and Angelino will be good enough very soon and so we strengthen other areas?
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Re: ' Not clear if Ed will continue'

Postby Green & Blue » Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:17 pm

Good luck Dzonky

As frustrating as he was at times he's served City well and scored some very important goals that will live long in the memory.Overall it's a reasonable deal considering his age and how much money he would have been earning for staying here and being a bit part player.

I really like what I've seen of Nacho so will be happy if dzekos departure results in him getting more football.I think he would have anyway and that wouldn't have gone down well with Dzeko.
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Re: ' Not clear if Ed will continue'

Postby mr_nool » Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:23 pm

I think our long-term transfer strategy seems a bit erratic because we constantly need to second guess what measures the UEFA and Premier League will come up with to hamper us.

I'm sure we had a solid long-term strategy that wad fucked up by the sudden change of the FFP rules, which turned it all on its head for us. And then it was the introduction of home grown quotas and the rumours of the domestic rules getting even harsher. I think our current transfers are partly in response to this. If the demand on more homegrown players does get stricter, we don't want our squad to be full with mediocre foreigners. Those spots must be reserved for world class players.
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Re: ' Not clear if Ed will continue'

Postby CuteMancs » Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:28 pm

Quite sad about this, I think we broke a very good football player.

Good Luck Edin x
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Re: ' Not clear if Ed will continue'

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:33 pm

Nigels Tackle wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Saul Goodman wrote:So i guess thats Nacho or Sterling starting up top vs the Baggies


Why's that then?


because bony is only just getting over a bout of ebola, hiv, typhoid and malaria
and kun has had about 2 days of preseason training
personally, i'd love to see nacho man, raheem and merlin up front at the hawthorns


I think you're going to be disappointed
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Re: ' Not clear if Ed will continue'

Postby Im_Spartacus » Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:35 pm

CuteMancs wrote:Quite sad about this, I think we broke a very good football player.

Good Luck Edin x


I have to agree, we never gave him a chance to do what he was actually good at, because we had aguero who was our goalscorer throughout nearly all dzeko's time here, and Dzeko kinda stood out that he never fitted in with the club's style of play, even through he adapted to an extent and will undoubtedly be classed as having done well for us.

He could have been a monster of a player at the rags or another team who 'look to get it forward quick', and could have been for us if we'd actually treated him as a plan b rather than an extension of plan a
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