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Re: So who's actually going then ?
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Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:19 amby Dubciteh
Ted Hughes wrote:So where are we up to ?
Current Champions League Squad:
UEFA A LIST, 17 'free places'. 1 Willy 2 Zaba 3 Sagna 4 Kolarov 5 Fernando 6 Fernandinho 7 Yaya 8 Nasri 9 Silva 10 Navas 11 Aguero 12 Bony 13 Dzeko 14 Jovetic 15 Kompany 16 Demichelis 17 Mangala
Homegrown: Hart, Clichy ,(Wright? But surely not ?) two empty homegrown spaces, unles we stupidly pick Wright, 4 empty club trained spaces which will remain empty as nobody qualifies.
Total, 19 (20 with Wright) places used out of a possible 25
UEFA B LIST: Denayer, Lopes & all the academy kids but not including Iheanacho or Unsal who don't yet qualify as 'homegrown' for UEFA purposes & could only be included as part of the 17.
Proposed incoming: Sterling (takes empty homegrown spot) DeBruyne (almost certainly takes Jovetic's spot)
Pogba. Takes which spot ?
If that's the sum total of our business this summer, it still looks like Navas favourite out the door to me rather than Edin or Nasri.
I would add: Khaloon mentioned 'players' leaving, as if a few long termers would go but other than that, we wouldn't actually need to lose Edin or Nasri.
What a fucking squad.
I think navas is definitely the most dispensable, im surprised he hasnt been linked with a move away either. not sure we would get much for him but you never know.
I would keep edin absolutely. If we sign as our targets we dont need a 6th wide man in navas as we will have nasri, silva, sterling, KDB and Pogba as an option to play wide, and then the youngsters coming through, I just dont see where Navas plays.
Re: So who's actually going then ?
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Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:50 amby Wonderwall
Dubciteh wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:So where are we up to ?
Current Champions League Squad:
UEFA A LIST, 17 'free places'. 1 Willy 2 Zaba 3 Sagna 4 Kolarov 5 Fernando 6 Fernandinho 7 Yaya 8 Nasri 9 Silva 10 Navas 11 Aguero 12 Bony 13 Dzeko 14 Jovetic 15 Kompany 16 Demichelis 17 Mangala
Homegrown: Hart, Clichy ,(Wright? But surely not ?) two empty homegrown spaces, unles we stupidly pick Wright, 4 empty club trained spaces which will remain empty as nobody qualifies.
Total, 19 (20 with Wright) places used out of a possible 25
UEFA B LIST: Denayer, Lopes & all the academy kids but not including Iheanacho or Unsal who don't yet qualify as 'homegrown' for UEFA purposes & could only be included as part of the 17.
Proposed incoming: Sterling (takes empty homegrown spot) DeBruyne (almost certainly takes Jovetic's spot)
Pogba. Takes which spot ?
If that's the sum total of our business this summer, it still looks like Navas favourite out the door to me rather than Edin or Nasri.
I would add: Khaloon mentioned 'players' leaving, as if a few long termers would go but other than that, we wouldn't actually need to lose Edin or Nasri.
What a fucking squad.
I think navas is definitely the most dispensable, im surprised he hasnt been linked with a move away either. not sure we would get much for him but you never know.
I would keep edin absolutely. If we sign as our targets we dont need a 6th wide man in navas as we will have nasri, silva, sterling, KDB and Pogba as an option to play wide, and then the youngsters coming through, I just dont see where Navas plays.
Navas wont leave Manchester, he gets homesick ;-)
Re: So who's actually going then ?
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Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:10 pmby DoomMerchant
Kdb isn't coming allegedly.
I wouldn't think of Nasri, silva or pig and as anything close to "wide men." I know it's in vogue to act like a genuine winger isn't cool but we need more pace on the flanks and it won't be coming from gramps Pablo or uncle cliché either.
We need some fast cunts who can also play our kind of football.
Cheers
Re: So who's actually going then ?
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Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:01 pmby Ted Hughes
DoomMerchant wrote:Kdb isn't coming allegedly.
I wouldn't think of Nasri, silva or pig and as anything close to "wide men." I know it's in vogue to act like a genuine winger isn't cool but we need more pace on the flanks and it won't be coming from gramps Pablo or uncle cliché either.
We need some fast cunts who can also play our kind of football.
Cheers
I'll be surprised if we don't get DeBruyne & more surprised if we don't get Sterling.
But if we got neither, as I've said before, I'd hapilly take a season of academy players coming through. I'd probably prefer it tbh, but I think we will spend a fucking fortune.
Re: So who's actually going then ?
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Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:35 pmby DoomMerchant
Ted Hughes wrote:DoomMerchant wrote:Kdb isn't coming allegedly.
I wouldn't think of Nasri, silva or pig and as anything close to "wide men." I know it's in vogue to act like a genuine winger isn't cool but we need more pace on the flanks and it won't be coming from gramps Pablo or uncle cliché either.
We need some fast cunts who can also play our kind of football.
Cheers
I'll be surprised if we don't get DeBruyne & more surprised if we don't get Sterling.
But if we got neither, as I've said before, I'd hapilly take a season of academy players coming through. I'd probably prefer it tbh, but I think we will spend a fucking fortune.
look, hindsight is asshole vision....if we just use some of Ambrose/Barker/Lopes/Cole/Nacho instead of buying said players above and we fucking struggle for Top 4 let alone challenge for any trophies then i'd say we'll be kicking ourselves for not making some buys. However, if a couple of those kids step up and show themselves to be something truly special and maybe great and not just "very good"...well then, we would all live with that if we see the "holistic progress." When was the last time that happened tho for a top top club? Barca mid-2000s? I dunno. I'm asking.
cheers
Re: So who's actually going then ?
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Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:53 pmby Ted Hughes
I don't know.
But we're talking bollocks anyway because we won't do it, but it's not actually a situation where the kids would have to pull the team through, that would still be the job of Silva, Aguero, Yaya, Kompany etc etc. These are some of the best players in the world & the squad is one of the best even if we sign nobody.
But the best of the kids would, imo, be the thing that gave us the new toy & got some of us out of our seats in excitement when they skinned a player or put a shot in.
City imo are suffering more from staleness, & a lack of balance, rather than a desperate need for Pogba etc. But of course a short cut to solving that, is these kind of big signings.
I think though that if we were forced into a position where we had to use kids to 'freshen up' the squad & had a manager who would trust them, I think we would be seriously competitive; better than last season.
But we'll spend a fortune anyway & this conversation will just be theoretical.
Re: So who's actually going then ?
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Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:06 pmby City64
Rekik sold to Marseille according to twitter .
Re: So who's actually going then ?
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Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:09 pmby mr_nool
Good for him!
Re: So who's actually going then ?
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Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:31 pmby mr_nool
Five million euros according to the Dutch media. What's that like three million quid?
Re: So who's actually going then ?
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Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:56 pmby Ted Hughes
mr_nool wrote:Five million euros according to the Dutch media. What's that like three million quid?
3.5
No hang on..3.4, oh wait...3.3...
Re: So who's actually going then ?
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Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:00 pmby Dunnylad
Ted Hughes wrote:mr_nool wrote:Five million euros according to the Dutch media. What's that like three million quid?
3.5
No hang on..3.4, oh wait...3.3...
That made me laugh so much I read it out to the Mrs who also laughed
Chapeau!
Re: So who's actually going then ?
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Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:07 pmby Ted Hughes
Dunnylad wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:mr_nool wrote:Five million euros according to the Dutch media. What's that like three million quid?
3.5
No hang on..3.4, oh wait...3.3...
That made me laugh so much I read it out to the Mrs who also laughed
Chapeau!
The joke's on me, because I've got a load of them I haven't changed yet, & will mostly be getting paid in the fuckers for the next few months.
Re: So who's actually going then ?
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Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:13 pmby mr_nool
Ted Hughes wrote:Dunnylad wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:mr_nool wrote:Five million euros according to the Dutch media. What's that like three million quid?
3.5
No hang on..3.4, oh wait...3.3...
That made me laugh so much I read it out to the Mrs who also laughed
Chapeau!
The joke's on me, because I've got a load of them I haven't changed yet, & will mostly be getting paid in the fuckers for the next few months.
And on the British export. I avoid vendors who charge in pounds like the plague the last half year.
Re: So who's actually going then ?
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Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:52 amby CTID Hants
Ngredo makes move to Valencia Permanent & Guidetti apparently released on a free after his contract expired (ESPN)
Adam Dury 21, having trials at Leeds?
Real shame about Ngredo, really thought after his start we had someone special there who played well with Kun.
Re: So who's actually going then ?
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Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:01 pmby dazby
Jojo will be the only "big" player to go from here on.
That's my call.
Re: So who's actually going then ?
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Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:06 pmby Foreverinbluedreams
dazby wrote:Jojo will be the only "big" player to go from here on.
That's my call.
What do you mean by "big"?
We do need to free up places in our 17 'foreign spots' to bring others in.
Re: So who's actually going then ?
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Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:08 pmby Douglas Higginbottom
I would be amazed if Edin or Jovetic stayed. And if we get a serious midfield player (Pogba, De B or Isco , I would be amazed if Nasri stayed.
Re: So who's actually going then ?
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Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:21 pmby Hazy2
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:I would be amazed if Edin or Jovetic stayed. And if we get a serious midfield player (Pogba, De B or Isco , I would be amazed if Nasri stayed.
Edin has a new deal, to get him out would be close to a freebie. Jovi leaves we pay half his wages ?
Re: So who's actually going then ?
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Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:10 pmby twosips
Jovetic aside, all the others are making noise about staying. If we're gonna move players on we're gonna get shite fees i think frustratingly.
Re: So who's actually going then ?
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Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:20 pmby nottsblue
twosips wrote:Jovetic aside, all the others are making noise about staying. If we're gonna move players on we're gonna get shite fees i think frustratingly.
Nothing new there. How often do we get over the odds money for a player?