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dick dastardley wrote:Why do the smaller countries get as many votes as the bigger footballing nations? Its rotten to the core blatter and his cronies need locking up

zuricity wrote:

PrezIke wrote:

zuricity wrote:The US are going back 24 years with their investigations.

Before this method of World cup placement was introduced by Blatter and his cronies ( ie one time Africa, next Europe , next north America and so on).

In Europe , there was an apparent gentleman's agreement to allow the main players , ie Germany , France ,Italy, Spain and England, to rotate the World cup.

When it was England's time, Germany trumped England and were awarded the World Cup ahead of schedule ( ie England 66, Germany 72) and there was much consternation in England at losing out.

It would be interesting to know if the US investigations ,or any investigation brought any corruption findings came from that time too.

The U.S. Justice Department wouldn't be looking at that because it has nothing to do with activities that took place in America. Maybe someone in their investigation spoke of it, but that wouldn't hold any legal standing from their point of view.

What are you talking about? If they find evidence of US companies bribing politicians / fifa executives etc for things related to the world cup in Germany some years ago, for example . You bet they will go after the parties involved. It is not so much about being on US soil , but with US entities involved.

BlueinBosnia wrote:

dick dastardley wrote:Why do the smaller countries get as many votes as the bigger footballing nations? Its rotten to the core blatter and his cronies need locking up

For exactly the same reason that MPs from poorer constituencies get the same number of votes as MPs from richer constituencies in UK politics.

The issue isn't the democratic system, but the fact that FIFA is set up to essentially bribe the smaller nations in order to win their votes. A few million Euros from FIFA's slush fund is enough to essentially buy the votes of 30+ states, which is literally small change for an organisation with over a billion in the bank. More transparency is needed as to how and why this money is spent, and its allocation should be entirely independent of the motivations of FIFA's central committee, in my opinion.

BlueinBosnia wrote:

dick dastardley wrote:Why do the smaller countries get as many votes as the bigger footballing nations? Its rotten to the core blatter and his cronies need locking up

For exactly the same reason that MPs from poorer constituencies get the same number of votes as MPs from richer constituencies in UK politics.

The issue isn't the democratic system, but the fact that FIFA is set up to essentially bribe the smaller nations in order to win their votes. A few million Euros from FIFA's slush fund is enough to essentially buy the votes of 30+ states, which is literally small change for an organisation with over a billion in the bank. More transparency is needed as to how and why this money is spent, and its allocation should be entirely independent of the motivations of FIFA's central committee, in my opinion.

PrezIke wrote:So much for that...

Blatter for the win

Beefymcfc wrote:

BlueinBosnia wrote:

dick dastardley wrote:Why do the smaller countries get as many votes as the bigger footballing nations? Its rotten to the core blatter and his cronies need locking up

For exactly the same reason that MPs from poorer constituencies get the same number of votes as MPs from richer constituencies in UK politics.

The issue isn't the democratic system, but the fact that FIFA is set up to essentially bribe the smaller nations in order to win their votes. A few million Euros from FIFA's slush fund is enough to essentially buy the votes of 30+ states, which is literally small change for an organisation with over a billion in the bank. More transparency is needed as to how and why this money is spent, and its allocation should be entirely independent of the motivations of FIFA's central committee, in my opinion.

A few million, it doesn't take that much for a team that would never make even a confederate game. When you're offered a 100 grand that can be distributed between tour family, are you gonna complain?

Septic Bladder knew how to do it, but that's not how this works, it's about how he developed the system.

BlueinBosnia wrote:

Beefymcfc wrote:

BlueinBosnia wrote:

dick dastardley wrote:Why do the smaller countries get as many votes as the bigger footballing nations? Its rotten to the core blatter and his cronies need locking up

For exactly the same reason that MPs from poorer constituencies get the same number of votes as MPs from richer constituencies in UK politics.

The issue isn't the democratic system, but the fact that FIFA is set up to essentially bribe the smaller nations in order to win their votes. A few million Euros from FIFA's slush fund is enough to essentially buy the votes of 30+ states, which is literally small change for an organisation with over a billion in the bank. More transparency is needed as to how and why this money is spent, and its allocation should be entirely independent of the motivations of FIFA's central committee, in my opinion.

A few million, it doesn't take that much for a team that would never make even a confederate game. When you're offered a 100 grand that can be distributed between tour family, are you gonna complain?

Septic Bladder knew how to do it, but that's not how this works, it's about how he developed the system.

I meant a few million to buy 30+ votes, not a few million per vote.

nottsblue wrote:Blatter wins as the other candidate withdraws after first ballot.

This stinks to high heaven

nottsblue wrote:Wonder if the English FA will follow the lead set by their Scottish counterparts


and boycott the next world cup

Slim wrote:

nottsblue wrote:Wonder if the English FA will follow the lead set by their Scottish counterparts


and boycott the next world cup

I expect Wales, NI and Ireland to show their support by not attending as well.