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by dick dastardley » Fri May 29, 2015 6:16 pm
Why do the smaller countries get as many votes as the bigger footballing nations? Its rotten to the core blatter and his cronies need locking up
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by blues2win » Fri May 29, 2015 6:21 pm
The major European football nations should boycott the next World Cup unless Blatter goes and the 2018/22 votes are redone. They won't of course. Platini will bottle it.
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by Green & Blue » Fri May 29, 2015 6:42 pm
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by BlueinBosnia » Fri May 29, 2015 7:18 pm
dick dastardley wrote:Why do the smaller countries get as many votes as the bigger footballing nations? Its rotten to the core blatter and his cronies need locking up
For exactly the same reason that MPs from poorer constituencies get the same number of votes as MPs from richer constituencies in UK politics.
The issue isn't the democratic system, but the fact that FIFA is set up to essentially bribe the smaller nations in order to win their votes. A few million Euros from FIFA's slush fund is enough to essentially buy the votes of 30+ states, which is literally small change for an organisation with over a billion in the bank. More transparency is needed as to how and why this money is spent, and its allocation should be entirely independent of the motivations of FIFA's central committee, in my opinion.
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by PrezIke » Fri May 29, 2015 7:23 pm
zuricity wrote:PrezIke wrote:zuricity wrote:The US are going back 24 years with their investigations.
Before this method of World cup placement was introduced by Blatter and his cronies ( ie one time Africa, next Europe , next north America and so on).
In Europe , there was an apparent gentleman's agreement to allow the main players , ie Germany , France ,Italy, Spain and England, to rotate the World cup.
When it was England's time, Germany trumped England and were awarded the World Cup ahead of schedule ( ie England 66, Germany 72) and there was much consternation in England at losing out.
It would be interesting to know if the US investigations ,or any investigation brought any corruption findings came from that time too.
The U.S. Justice Department wouldn't be looking at that because it has nothing to do with activities that took place in America. Maybe someone in their investigation spoke of it, but that wouldn't hold any legal standing from their point of view.
What are you talking about? If they find evidence of US companies bribing politicians / fifa executives etc for things related to the world cup in Germany some years ago, for example . You bet they will go after the parties involved. It is not so much about being on US soil , but with US entities involved.
Sorry, I was referring to the "gentleman's agreement" you speak of with the "main players" of which the U.S. is not involved. However, if U.S. companies or any company that uses the U.S. financial system was involved in bribery, yes they would be at risk for prosecution, as I am understanding things.
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by Beefymcfc » Fri May 29, 2015 7:45 pm
BlueinBosnia wrote:dick dastardley wrote:Why do the smaller countries get as many votes as the bigger footballing nations? Its rotten to the core blatter and his cronies need locking up
For exactly the same reason that MPs from poorer constituencies get the same number of votes as MPs from richer constituencies in UK politics.
The issue isn't the democratic system, but the fact that FIFA is set up to essentially bribe the smaller nations in order to win their votes. A few million Euros from FIFA's slush fund is enough to essentially buy the votes of 30+ states, which is literally small change for an organisation with over a billion in the bank. More transparency is needed as to how and why this money is spent, and its allocation should be entirely independent of the motivations of FIFA's central committee, in my opinion.
A few million, it doesn't take that much for a team that would never make even a confederate game. When you're offered a 100 grand that can be distributed between tour family, are you gonna complain?
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by CTID Hants » Fri May 29, 2015 7:47 pm
BlueinBosnia wrote:dick dastardley wrote:Why do the smaller countries get as many votes as the bigger footballing nations? Its rotten to the core blatter and his cronies need locking up
For exactly the same reason that MPs from poorer constituencies get the same number of votes as MPs from richer constituencies in UK politics.
The issue isn't the democratic system, but the fact that FIFA is set up to essentially bribe the smaller nations in order to win their votes. A few million Euros from FIFA's slush fund is enough to essentially buy the votes of 30+ states, which is literally small change for an organisation with over a billion in the bank. More transparency is needed as to how and why this money is spent, and its allocation should be entirely independent of the motivations of FIFA's central committee, in my opinion.
Absolutely spot on BiB
FIFA made $4.8 Billion from Brazil 14, spending a few million in Nigeria or Vanuatu ain't going break the bank & you can bet your bottom dollar that what gets built from those FIFA donations Nigeria etc doesn't all get spent building pitches etc. Yet those countries FA's are grateful by voting for blatter as he will turn a blind eye as to real costs of what gets built from said donations
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by Beefymcfc » Fri May 29, 2015 7:56 pm
Noses still well within the trough, the dirty bastards!
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by iwasthere2012 » Fri May 29, 2015 8:20 pm
PrezIke wrote:So much for that...
Blatter for the win
Yes, but he did explain afterwards that they had to go ahead with the election, as the votes were already paid for.
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by BlueinBosnia » Fri May 29, 2015 8:20 pm
Beefymcfc wrote:BlueinBosnia wrote:dick dastardley wrote:Why do the smaller countries get as many votes as the bigger footballing nations? Its rotten to the core blatter and his cronies need locking up
For exactly the same reason that MPs from poorer constituencies get the same number of votes as MPs from richer constituencies in UK politics.
The issue isn't the democratic system, but the fact that FIFA is set up to essentially bribe the smaller nations in order to win their votes. A few million Euros from FIFA's slush fund is enough to essentially buy the votes of 30+ states, which is literally small change for an organisation with over a billion in the bank. More transparency is needed as to how and why this money is spent, and its allocation should be entirely independent of the motivations of FIFA's central committee, in my opinion.
A few million, it doesn't take that much for a team that would never make even a confederate game. When you're offered a 100 grand that can be distributed between tour family, are you gonna complain?
Septic Bladder knew how to do it, but that's not how this works, it's about how he developed the system.
I meant a few million to buy 30+ votes, not a few million per vote.
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by Beefymcfc » Fri May 29, 2015 8:33 pm
BlueinBosnia wrote:Beefymcfc wrote:BlueinBosnia wrote:dick dastardley wrote:Why do the smaller countries get as many votes as the bigger footballing nations? Its rotten to the core blatter and his cronies need locking up
For exactly the same reason that MPs from poorer constituencies get the same number of votes as MPs from richer constituencies in UK politics.
The issue isn't the democratic system, but the fact that FIFA is set up to essentially bribe the smaller nations in order to win their votes. A few million Euros from FIFA's slush fund is enough to essentially buy the votes of 30+ states, which is literally small change for an organisation with over a billion in the bank. More transparency is needed as to how and why this money is spent, and its allocation should be entirely independent of the motivations of FIFA's central committee, in my opinion.
A few million, it doesn't take that much for a team that would never make even a confederate game. When you're offered a 100 grand that can be distributed between tour family, are you gonna complain?
Septic Bladder knew how to do it, but that's not how this works, it's about how he developed the system.
I meant a few million to buy 30+ votes, not a few million per vote.
I know mate, I used your post just as UEFA would!
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by ruralblue » Fri May 29, 2015 8:43 pm
Fifa 2016 to include women's teams when it's released......Sepp keeping his presidency!
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by Hazy2 » Fri May 29, 2015 9:40 pm
The other end of the scale over 4,000 at the opening of the scum 2. Fair play to them.
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by DoomMerchant » Fri May 29, 2015 9:48 pm
nottsblue wrote:Blatter wins as the other candidate withdraws after first ballot.
This stinks to high heaven
He never had the votes.
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by omega » Fri May 29, 2015 10:21 pm
Love the stance from Uefa..more corrupt than any fooker,deflecting bullets.
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by sheblue » Fri May 29, 2015 10:32 pm
Looks like we will have to wait for this corrupt old fucker to die before we get rid of him.
Shocking stuff. Major nations should pull out of the World Cup.
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by nottsblue » Fri May 29, 2015 10:32 pm
Wonder if the English FA will follow the lead set by their Scottish counterparts
and boycott the next world cup
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by Slim » Sat May 30, 2015 1:21 am
nottsblue wrote:Wonder if the English FA will follow the lead set by their Scottish counterparts
and boycott the next world cup
I expect Wales, NI and Ireland to show their support by not attending as well.
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by ruralblue » Sat May 30, 2015 7:22 am
Slim wrote:nottsblue wrote:Wonder if the English FA will follow the lead set by their Scottish counterparts
and boycott the next world cup
I expect Wales, NI and Ireland to show their support by not attending as well.
England also appear to have been protesting against something for over 45 years.
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