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Re: English Premier League Hit By Changes To Champions Leagu
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Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:42 amby Wonderwall
Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:As the leagues stand right now, apparently it will be
Zenit
Benfica
Barca
Bayern
Chelsea
PSG
Juve
and PSV if Bayern or Juve win the Champions league, the spanish league is too close to call at the moment
Re: English Premier League Hit By Changes To Champions Leagu
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Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:12 amby blues2win
How are we looking for pot 2 though? The change to Pot 1 gives us a somewhat better chance of getting through to last 16 as winners of our Group. Might get PSG or Zenit rather than Bayern yet again. Not an easy draw but doable.
Re: English Premier League Hit By Changes To Champions Leagu
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Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:14 amby Wonderwall
blues2win wrote:How are we looking for pot 2 though? The change to Pot 1 gives us a somewhat better chance of getting through to last 16 as winners of our Group. Might get PSG or Zenit rather than Bayern yet again. Not an easy draw but doable.
Latest co-efficient has Utd and Arse in pot 2 and us in pot 3
Re: English Premier League Hit By Changes To Champions Leagu
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Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:21 amby Piccsnumberoneblue
Is that based on who actually qualifies? Or is looking like qualifying?
Re: English Premier League Hit By Changes To Champions Leagu
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Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:23 amby Wonderwall
Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Is that based on who actually qualifies? Or is looking like qualifying?
its from the media round up on the OS
http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/What-the-pap ... -2015-5126“UEFA has confirmed a new seeding system which will see the champions of the seven biggest leagues in Europe named as top seeds along with the Champions League winner,” reports The Independent.
“Chelsea are 10 points clear in the Premier League race and look odds on to be title winners and be among the eight top seeds in the Champions League draw in August.
“Arsenal and United would both almost certainly be among a strong group of second seeds due to their high UEFA club ranking but City have dropped out of the top 16 clubs according to UEFA's latest co-efficients.
“It would be the first time more for than a decade that Arsenal and United have not been top seeds.
“City were not top seeds last August despite being English champions while Chelsea and Arsenal were, and Manuel Pellegrini's side ended up with another tough draw against Bayern Munich, CSKA Moscow and Roma.
“If the Champions League winner is also their domestic league winner, then the champions of the eighth-ranked association Holland - likely to be PSV Eindhoven - would be named as top seeds.
“UEFA's new Champions League regulations have been published and state: "The first group comprises the title holder (top seed) and the domestic champions of the seven top-ranked associations in accordance with the access list.
“"If the title holder is one of the top seven associations' domestic champions, the group is completed with the champion of the association ranked eight."
“UEFA general secretary Gianni Infantino said: "Football is about winning, it's about competition, it's about sporting merit. I think it's kind of a natural thing to give to those who have won a competition a special treatment like this.””
Re: English Premier League Hit By Changes To Champions Leagu
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Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:24 amby Wonderwall
Re: English Premier League Hit By Changes To Champions Leagu
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Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:32 amby Ted Hughes
So it will make no difference to our usual shite, but the rags & Arsenal have lost their free ride.
Good.
Re: English Premier League Hit By Changes To Champions Leagu
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Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:34 amby Piccsnumberoneblue
Looking at uefas site for coefficients and who is likely to qualify I can see us sneaking into pot two just maybe. And let's not forget some teams may fail to get through s qualifier too.
Re: English Premier League Hit By Changes To Champions Leagu
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Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:43 amby deluded blue
Rags might drop below us when the coefficients are restarted next season as they lose 37 points from 2010/11 season :-)
Re: English Premier League Hit By Changes To Champions Leagu
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Thu Apr 23, 2015 10:23 amby Piccsnumberoneblue
Looking at it, to qualify for pot 2 ( not forgetting we ain't even qualified for the tournament at the moment) we could do with Real and Barca sharing the CL and La Liga titles one each.
Then PSG to finish top in France over Lyon.
Sevilla finishing above Valencia but not doing too much more in Europa League would help some more.
If two or more of those things happened then we would be fairly sound I think.
Oh and Napoli not catching up for third in Italy. ( they are five points off the pace)
We have an ok chance.
But I could be wrong. Again.
Re: English Premier League Hit By Changes To Champions Leagu
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Thu Apr 23, 2015 10:34 amby I Just Blue Myself
Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:And let's not forget some teams may fail to get through s qualifier too.
As it stands, we could be one of those teams.
Re: English Premier League Hit By Changes To Champions Leagu
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Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:07 amby Dubciteh
I Just Blue Myself wrote:Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:And let's not forget some teams may fail to get through s qualifier too.
As it stands, we could be one of those teams.
Absolutely has us all over it if we come fourth....crucial we come third
Re: English Premier League Hit By Changes To Champions Leagu
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Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:34 amby Piccsnumberoneblue
There are a lot of variables, true. And it is vital we qualify. As somebody else pointed out we could catch the shite's coefficient. Also Dortmund are going to drop as are Shalke. If we do end up in Pot 3 we are almost assured another wretched draw. We have to improve our standing in the competition to get off this wheel of misfortune and mediocrity. At the same time it would be advantageous to have the filth's position weakened further. We need a good finish to the season for so many reasons.
Re: English Premier League Hit By Changes To Champions Leagu
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Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:42 pmby PrezIke
Unm isnt this article a bit late? Weren't many here in support of the changes?
Re: English Premier League Hit By Changes To Champions Leagu
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Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:45 pmby Wonderwall
PrezIke wrote:Unm isnt this article a bit late? Weren't many here in support of the changes?
We still are!
Re: English Premier League Hit By Changes To Champions Leagu
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Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:18 pmby phips
good. the changes make sense and should be made
Re: English Premier League Hit By Changes To Champions Leagu
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Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:32 pmby PrezIke
Wonderwall wrote:PrezIke wrote:Unm isnt this article a bit late? Weren't many here in support of the changes?
We still are!
Cheers. I would have thought so. I'd also rather see the team that wins the league be rewarded as the top seeds, and glad Arsenal and United won't get the free ride anymore as well.
Unfortunate we may drop to the 3rd pot, but we got what we deserved for our performance in the league this year anyway when we should have been challenging for the title.
Re: English Premier League Hit By Changes To Champions Leagu
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Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:14 pmby Hutch's Shoulder
We will get Bayern and CSKA whatever the seeding.
Re: English Premier League Hit By Changes To Champions Leagu
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Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:21 amby Beefymcfc
It's a token gesture from UEFA & the ECA to make it look as if it improves things but in reality not much will change. The old teams may not be in Pot 1 but they'll surely be drawn, in that simplistic way that UEFA do, against similar sides they were before, what with the coefficients, not being able to play against a team from the same country and TV packages being involved.
Not trying to be cynical but the only thing that will change is the likes of the Rags & Arse won't be in Pot 1, but they'll still get the same draws as they did before.
I do hope I'm wrong, we'll just have to wait and see.
Re: English Premier League Hit By Changes To Champions Leagu
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Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:07 pmby patrickblue
Bloody hell, are these tedious pots still going.