FFP - time to challenge it's legality

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Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

Postby blues2win » Tue Jun 30, 2015 2:15 pm

MEN running the line that the new flexibility won't apply to ourselves or PSG because of our infringement of existing rules. Also running the bullshit that the existing suspended part of the punishment is an issue now which it clearly isn't. On the first point I would wish the MEN would speak to the Club. If we're so fucked by FFP how come we're making very aggressive bids for Pogba and Sterling and may yet do for de Bruyne.
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Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

Postby Original Dub » Tue Jun 30, 2015 2:18 pm

blues2win wrote:MEN running the line that the new flexibility won't apply to ourselves or PSG because of our infringement of existing rules. Also running the bullshit that the existing suspended part of the punishment is an issue now which it clearly isn't. On the first point I would wish the MEN would speak to the Club. If we're so fucked by FFP how come we're making very aggressive bids for Pogba and Sterling and may yet do for de Bruyne.


Here it is:

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ng-9556532?
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Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

Postby blues2win » Tue Jun 30, 2015 2:23 pm

I see that the litigants in the FFP case are saying that those currently punished won't benefit immediately from the new flexibility. They reserve the right to inject this point into the legal proceedings. I hope the Club will urge informally that this is done. It's time we showed fight against UEFA.
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Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

Postby Dameerto » Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:39 pm

This is why we should never have fucling settled - UEFA are using it against us now. Unleash the hounds it's time to get serious.
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Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

Postby Hazy2 » Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:53 pm

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Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:30 pm

Dameerto wrote:This is why we should never have fucling settled - UEFA are using it against us now. Unleash the hounds it's time to get serious.


Absolutely.

This discriminatory farce has run now for far too long and UEFA are becoming indistinguishable from FIFA in the way they 'run the show' and go about their evil 'business' arrangements.

Condign retribution needs to fall down upon the Fat Frenchman's head and his band of corrupt cohorts, acolytes and supporters. We need to start rocking the boat immediately and, to paraphrase Admiral Sir John Fisher's historical dictum, 'kick first, kick hard and keep kicking'.
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Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:51 pm

The sponsors didn't want City to get involved in a huge legal battle.

City 'took the pinch'. They won't be taking more.

I don't believe Stuart Brennan has any idea what City's position is & am very disappointed in this piece. It's more James Robson type material.

If I'm wrong in the long run I will apologise, but I don't think he has the slightest idea.
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Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

Postby Hutch's Shoulder » Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:34 pm

I very much doubt that the current transfer targets we are being linked with were selected on the basis that the rules were being relaxed; I think they were planned long before UEFA raised that prospects and are based on compliance with the existing rules. Therefore I don't think that not being party to the relaxation will affect our plans significantly, even though it is manifestly unjust and we should contest it on principle.
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Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

Postby Beefymcfc » Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:37 pm

These new changes should be taken as they're given, a piss take of ours and clubs like us.

UEFA have to contest it to keep it relevant under current changes, but do they think they can win?

Just look at the person who first ruled on this, the very same person who cozied up to UEFA in the first place. And he found it lawful!

Anything to slow the process down, to allow the bug clubs to adjust. So much for fair play!
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Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:40 pm

Hutch's Shoulder wrote:I very much doubt that the current transfer targets we are being linked with were selected on the basis that the rules were being relaxed; I think they were planned long before UEFA raised that prospects and are based on compliance with the existing rules. Therefore I don't think that not being party to the relaxation will affect our plans significantly, even though it is manifestly unjust and we should contest it on principle.

I think you are right, whether we get them or not.

But there is the question of when the various restrictions actually end, & whether we have to sell, to finance all 3 of our targets rather than one or two.
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Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

Postby DoomMerchant » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:19 pm

being stitched up by this FFP bollox is the only giant misstep that Khaldoon has made. Can't believe we're still talking about such a blatantly illegal, and anticompetitive set of conditions which obviously violate the most basic elements of free and competitive trade.

i could see us "winning" this in 3 years time and forcing UEFA to pay us a billion dollars, but by then i'll be fucking done with this game at this rate. No other sport in the world, outside the NFL, which is 1000% mafia run by owners, can get away with something like this.

We should be fucking them off left right and center and going ISIS on their asses. Drown some cunts. Some beheadings. RPGs. Etc. I'm slightly annoyed by this it seems.

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Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

Postby Wooders » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:20 pm

It just seems like such a snide move to keep the rules for those that are perceived to have broken them - a indication of the level of imbecile Uefa have in charge
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Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:22 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Hutch's Shoulder wrote:I very much doubt that the current transfer targets we are being linked with were selected on the basis that the rules were being relaxed; I think they were planned long before UEFA raised that prospects and are based on compliance with the existing rules. Therefore I don't think that not being party to the relaxation will affect our plans significantly, even though it is manifestly unjust and we should contest it on principle.

I think you are right, whether we get them or not.

But there is the question of when the various restrictions actually end, & whether we have to sell, to finance all 3 of our targets rather than one or two.

We can probably spend £200 million (amortized) in this window, no sweat.
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Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

Postby DoomMerchant » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:27 pm

also, this FFP shit is inherently racist trash. Do you think they'd be doing this if some fat, balding English cunt was spending a billion on Liverpool, Newcastle or West Ham? Would they fuck.

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Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

Postby Dunnylad » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:54 pm

So if the Sheikh bought us now he could spend loads of cash, but he cant if he's been an owner for years & already been through FFP??? Presume Inter benefit from this change in rules?
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Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:55 pm

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Hutch's Shoulder wrote:I very much doubt that the current transfer targets we are being linked with were selected on the basis that the rules were being relaxed; I think they were planned long before UEFA raised that prospects and are based on compliance with the existing rules. Therefore I don't think that not being party to the relaxation will affect our plans significantly, even though it is manifestly unjust and we should contest it on principle.

I think you are right, whether we get them or not.

But there is the question of when the various restrictions actually end, & whether we have to sell, to finance all 3 of our targets rather than one or two.

We can probably spend £200 million (amortized) in this window, no sweat.


Don't forget the wage bill.
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Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:55 pm

Dunnylad wrote:So if the Sheikh bought us now he could spend loads of cash, but he cant if he's been an owner for years & already been through FFP??? Presume Inter benefit from this change in rules?


And of course Berlusconi, if he wants to sell or bring in investment.
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Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

Postby City64 » Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:11 pm

Bizarre article from the MEN imho , maybe our spending power is pissing a few rag cunts who work there off a tad ?
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Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:23 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Hutch's Shoulder wrote:I very much doubt that the current transfer targets we are being linked with were selected on the basis that the rules were being relaxed; I think they were planned long before UEFA raised that prospects and are based on compliance with the existing rules. Therefore I don't think that not being party to the relaxation will affect our plans significantly, even though it is manifestly unjust and we should contest it on principle.

I think you are right, whether we get them or not.

But there is the question of when the various restrictions actually end, & whether we have to sell, to finance all 3 of our targets rather than one or two.

We can probably spend £200 million (amortized) in this window, no sweat.


Don't forget the wage bill.

We get an extra £30+ million in Europe from next season, much more if we go deep into the competition. £40+ million extra from domestic TV deal. Added revenue from the stadium and more sponsors and increased revenue from sponsorship on top of that. We have no debt and are now making a profit. That's £100+ million a season extra from this coming season, minimum. Amortized, that's 4 players that cost £50 million each over 4 years and their wages at £10 million per year each, plus seriously good bonuses.
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Re: FFP - time to challenge it's legality

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:59 pm

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Hutch's Shoulder wrote:I very much doubt that the current transfer targets we are being linked with were selected on the basis that the rules were being relaxed; I think they were planned long before UEFA raised that prospects and are based on compliance with the existing rules. Therefore I don't think that not being party to the relaxation will affect our plans significantly, even though it is manifestly unjust and we should contest it on principle.

I think you are right, whether we get them or not.

But there is the question of when the various restrictions actually end, & whether we have to sell, to finance all 3 of our targets rather than one or two.

We can probably spend £200 million (amortized) in this window, no sweat.


Don't forget the wage bill.

We get an extra £30+ million in Europe from next season, much more if we go deep into the competition. £40+ million extra from domestic TV deal. Added revenue from the stadium and more sponsors and increased revenue from sponsorship on top of that. We have no debt and are now making a profit. That's £100+ million a season extra from this coming season, minimum. Amortized, that's 4 players that cost £50 million each over 4 years and their wages at £10 million per year each, plus seriously good bonuses.


Yeah but we're not going to drop 2 players on 100k pw, & pay them to go shopping.
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