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Scatman wrote:

mr_nool wrote:I called Doomy and MC deluded the last time they suggested this. That was perhaps a tad mean, but trying to convert Kompany to a midfielder would not be a clever move. The guy is short of confidence and is struggling with the ball at his feet, and you think he would flourish in a role where he constantly will get the ball with his back to the opponents with no clue of what's happening around/behind him?

So we get rid of VK, replace him with someone to partner Fern1 (Fern 2 perhaps?), do all the other stuff DM just suggested and we're laffing.

So all we need to do is take Kompany out of the side to try this one out. No transfers needed - until we can get that LB.

Do it now.

Ted Hughes wrote:Kompany is better than whoever anyone would sign, to replace him.

PeterParker wrote:

DoomMerchant wrote:

PeterParker wrote:

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:

ruralblue wrote:We also need a general in the middle of the field. wonder if it would be better pushing Yaya further forward and Komps into Def mid. Would take some pressure off Komps and allow him to rally the troops in the middle of the park and give Yay as old legs less tracking back to do.

Very recently Doomie and myself were discussing this particular option as being something worth trying (starting with the next pre-season's games), just to see if it had any value or merit.

Didn't meet with universal approval though - in fact it didn't meet with much approval at all.

In one month, Vinnie will be 29 years old, at this stage it is almost impossible to change the profile of a player. That is not a solution, after all these years playing as a defender, he will need at least one year and a half to understand his new role. At first he will be very sloppy, he will be a target for many teams.

Move him there and he will be the most hated player on this forum.

absolute bollox. He's probably played more of his career since he started playing this game as a MF than a CB i would bet.

Move him up, move Yaya up if we won't sell...sell Nasri. Promote Denayer to Vince's spot. Try it the fuck out. Partner Yaya as a No 10 with a striker and let Dave keep roaming. Let Fernandinho partner Kompany and then add a Reus or Isco or Pogba....then we just need a fucking actual LB and we're laffing.

4-3-3, 4-4-2, 4-2-2-1-1, 4-2-3-1 fucking. whatever. you call it.

cheers

You can't do that and you know it. Let's say you do your job perfectly, in the last 3 years, you became one of the best workers on your spot in the world, now you have issues and your boss decides to put you where you were when you started working there. What impact would that have on you.

With others i am 100 % with you, Yaya has no spot in the middle, he needs to be up front. I would use Fernandinho - Fernando, then Silva, Yaya and Navas behind one striker. The problem is that, i see Sergio having problems as a poacher. He like it when there is one man in front of him.

The problem is that there is no right answer in this. We can play 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1, the real issue is we must move Yaya from that spot. If we will keep using him there, we will keep on losing.

Speaking about Denayer, i had never seen him so far, what makes him good enough to be in our squad? Actually, did anyone remember a mistake Boyata did, beside that when he got sent off against Arse? He had decent games, but limited chances. The point is that we seem to have absolutely no strategy regarding our youth. We send players to fucksville, instead of loaning them at Premier teams or Championship one, where they can grow. Plus, we need a manager that will give them chances. Sadly, look at what eleven Pellers had in the FA and Capital one cup in the past year and a half.

All in all, no Vinnie in the middle and a box to box player that knows how to defend and ship Yaya to Paris or move him up.

DoomMerchant wrote:

Scatman wrote:

mr_nool wrote:I called Doomy and MC deluded the last time they suggested this. That was perhaps a tad mean, but trying to convert Kompany to a midfielder would not be a clever move. The guy is short of confidence and is struggling with the ball at his feet, and you think he would flourish in a role where he constantly will get the ball with his back to the opponents with no clue of what's happening around/behind him?

So we get rid of VK, replace him with someone to partner Fern1 (Fern 2 perhaps?), do all the other stuff DM just suggested and we're laffing.

So all we need to do is take Kompany out of the side to try this one out. No transfers needed - until we can get that LB.

Do it now.

read what i wrote and then actually think about it,turdface.

I've said about 10 times in the last 48 hours that we probably need to see the back of roughly 8 players, promote some kids, bring in 3 or 4 one of them being a superstar type world-beater motherfucker.

It's a lot to do, spazmoid...which was my sarcastic point.

This team needs a serious overhaul and if we don't find out if VK has some gas left in his tank, in SOME position then he needs to move on. End of story.

cheers

DoomMerchant wrote:

Scatman wrote:

mr_nool wrote:I called Doomy and MC deluded the last time they suggested this. That was perhaps a tad mean, but trying to convert Kompany to a midfielder would not be a clever move. The guy is short of confidence and is struggling with the ball at his feet, and you think he would flourish in a role where he constantly will get the ball with his back to the opponents with no clue of what's happening around/behind him?

So we get rid of VK, replace him with someone to partner Fern1 (Fern 2 perhaps?), do all the other stuff DM just suggested and we're laffing.

So all we need to do is take Kompany out of the side to try this one out. No transfers needed - until we can get that LB.

Do it now.

read what i wrote and then actually think about it,turdface.

I've said about 10 times in the last 48 hours that we probably need to see the back of roughly 8 players, promote some kids, bring in 3 or 4 one of them being a superstar type world-beater motherfucker.

It's a lot to do, spazmoid...which was my sarcastic point.

This team needs a serious overhaul and if we don't find out if VK has some gas left in his tank, in SOME position then he needs to move on. End of story.

cheers

Scatman wrote:

DoomMerchant wrote:

Scatman wrote:

mr_nool wrote:I called Doomy and MC deluded the last time they suggested this. That was perhaps a tad mean, but trying to convert Kompany to a midfielder would not be a clever move. The guy is short of confidence and is struggling with the ball at his feet, and you think he would flourish in a role where he constantly will get the ball with his back to the opponents with no clue of what's happening around/behind him?

So we get rid of VK, replace him with someone to partner Fern1 (Fern 2 perhaps?), do all the other stuff DM just suggested and we're laffing.

So all we need to do is take Kompany out of the side to try this one out. No transfers needed - until we can get that LB.

Do it now.

read what i wrote and then actually think about it,turdface.

I've said about 10 times in the last 48 hours that we probably need to see the back of roughly 8 players, promote some kids, bring in 3 or 4 one of them being a superstar type world-beater motherfucker.

It's a lot to do, spazmoid...which was my sarcastic point.

This team needs a serious overhaul and if we don't find out if VK has some gas left in his tank, in SOME position then he needs to move on. End of story.

cheers

I've reread it a couple of times and still find myself thinking what you suggest is a good idea. I can't see why it wouldn't be worth a go, or the sarcasm for that matter. Something as simple as that should be tried now before we chuck 8 players at it, surely.

twosips wrote:One of the current fullbacks will go Id guess. I'd guess Sagna or Kolarov.

Hutch's Shoulder wrote:

twosips wrote:One of the current fullbacks will go Id guess. I'd guess Sagna or Kolarov.

Both tbh, and get two pacy understudies.

Tokyo Blue wrote:

Hutch's Shoulder wrote:

twosips wrote:One of the current fullbacks will go Id guess. I'd guess Sagna or Kolarov.

Both tbh, and get two pacy understudies.

From the EDS, I hope. Playing their own youngsters doesn't seem to have done much damage to Southampton.

Fesan wrote:Isnt it worth it to try Yaya behind the striker for a few games (instead of in midfield) before totally writing him off?

Dameerto wrote:

Fesan wrote:Isnt it worth it to try Yaya behind the striker for a few games (instead of in midfield) before totally writing him off?

There's better options in that position - if Bony plays then Aguero fits in there - if not then we have Silva. He'd have to be third maybe even fourth choice - and why should we carry someone anyway when our system is so reliant on pressing to avoid pressure on our back four? Either our current system goes or Yaya goes, in my opinion.

Slim wrote:Yes on all counts, except aguero/silva should be first choice.

Yaya and Nasri go to in the summer, if only there was a left winger with wingnuts for ears that was for sale this summer...hmm.

Dameerto wrote:

Fesan wrote:Isnt it worth it to try Yaya behind the striker for a few games (instead of in midfield) before totally writing him off?

There's better options in that position - if Bony plays then Aguero fits in there - if not then we have Silva. He'd have to be third maybe even fourth choice - and why should we carry someone anyway when our system is so reliant on pressing to avoid pressure on our back four? Either our current system goes or Yaya goes, in my opinion.

Fesan wrote:Isnt it worth it to try Yaya behind the striker for a few games (instead of in midfield) before totally writing him off?