Douglas Higginbottom wrote:I would not at all be surprised if we lose Yaya, Nasri and Milner for next season but keep the 2 F's. Fernandinho for me is a quality player who is very good getting around midfield winning balls and passing it on but not quite good enough creatively when given the chance. Fernando seemed to be the business when we first saw him but after injury has tailed off a lot but I would give him the benefit of the doubt for another season.
Yaya I think is a spent force. Useless on the defensive side of the game if he is given such a role but still capable of quality in the attacking 3rd. The trouble is we don't let him free to just attack. Nasri has tons of quality when he is allowed to play but basically he is a soft git and just doesn't do it often enough. Milner is mainly a worker and puts in fantastic effort but last night maybe summed him up as when he did get on the ball his quality was nil.It's not always like that and I do like him but he is a squad player and nothing more.If we can keep him without having to pay too much or guarantee anything then great but if he goes to say Liverpool he won't improve their team and again be just a squad member.
So if we lose a good few ( Edin, Jovetic,Kolarov also likely leavers) we need to buy one or two high quality performers and then bring one or two in from the youth. Denayer and Lopes spring obviously to mind but maybe others as well.
getdressedmctavish wrote:Good thinking Doug and a measured response. We all know what Fernandinho can do, he runs effortlessly, is a tireless worker and can pass well, being particularly able at setting up counter attacks.. He has two problems, one technique, one mental. He cant for the life of him judge a tackle, hasn't learned to jocky so is too easily bypassed and fouls way too easily.Mentally he is far too happy as part of the supporting cast and seems incapable of making the progression to dominating games with shots and assists around the box.Hopefully he can step up but I suspect he is too lacking in temperament.He did well last night because he has the engine but the second problem was very evident. The idea was clearly to have Ya Ya creating and Fernando leg biting but this idea has signally failed so far. Who we replace Ya Ya with and whether we ever get any real steel in MF will determine whether Fernandinho succeeds.The other pressing issue is can Bony integrate. Personally I thought he was a certainty but he has looked clumsy and inept. Its a thin line with strikers.Thirdly, can we afford to carry a non scoring winger. Most don't. I think Sinclair would have been more use than Navas. But a wide striker like Sanchez or Muller is the way forward, which is why the interest in de Bruyne, which makes sense.The pressing problem is the loss of form of our key players which is why I reluctantly conclude they need a new manager, not that they deserve one.
Nick wrote:Im gonna put it out there, I thought Navas had a good game.
9/10 of the times last night he put balls in where there were ZERO people in the box. OK, so people want one up front. But Aguero was so deep it was unbelievable. Why? He wasn't the usual Aguero last night, it was disappotinting from him. The reason Navas sometimes hesitates is that nobody is ever in the box. And that INCLUDES when we play dzeko and aguero (dzeko loves trying to play left wing).
Bony has looked like Benjani in all of his cameos. However; in his only start, at Leicester for me played really well and was unlucky to not bag 1-2 goals. He needs starts.
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:I would not at all be surprised if we lose Yaya, Nasri and Milner for next season but keep the 2 F's. Fernandinho for me is a quality player who is very good getting around midfield winning balls and passing it on but not quite good enough creatively when given the chance. Fernando seemed to be the business when we first saw him but after injury has tailed off a lot but I would give him the benefit of the doubt for another season.
Yaya I think is a spent force. Useless on the defensive side of the game if he is given such a role but still capable of quality in the attacking 3rd. The trouble is we don't let him free to just attack. Nasri has tons of quality when he is allowed to play but basically he is a soft git and just doesn't do it often enough. Milner is mainly a worker and puts in fantastic effort but last night maybe summed him up as when he did get on the ball his quality was nil.It's not always like that and I do like him but he is a squad player and nothing more.If we can keep him without having to pay too much or guarantee anything then great but if he goes to say Liverpool he won't improve their team and again be just a squad member.
So if we lose a good few ( Edin, Jovetic,Kolarov also likely leavers) we need to buy one or two high quality performers and then bring one or two in from the youth. Denayer and Lopes spring obviously to mind but maybe others as well.
lets all have a disco wrote:Douglas Higginbottom wrote:I would not at all be surprised if we lose Yaya, Nasri and Milner for next season but keep the 2 F's. Fernandinho for me is a quality player who is very good getting around midfield winning balls and passing it on but not quite good enough creatively when given the chance. Fernando seemed to be the business when we first saw him but after injury has tailed off a lot but I would give him the benefit of the doubt for another season.
Yaya I think is a spent force. Useless on the defensive side of the game if he is given such a role but still capable of quality in the attacking 3rd. The trouble is we don't let him free to just attack. Nasri has tons of quality when he is allowed to play but basically he is a soft git and just doesn't do it often enough. Milner is mainly a worker and puts in fantastic effort but last night maybe summed him up as when he did get on the ball his quality was nil.It's not always like that and I do like him but he is a squad player and nothing more.If we can keep him without having to pay too much or guarantee anything then great but if he goes to say Liverpool he won't improve their team and again be just a squad member.
So if we lose a good few ( Edin, Jovetic,Kolarov also likely leavers) we need to buy one or two high quality performers and then bring one or two in from the youth. Denayer and Lopes spring obviously to mind but maybe others as well.
I've got a lot of hope for Lopes it seems when he plays well so do Lille by all accounts.
Nick wrote:Im gonna put it out there, I thought Navas had a good game.
9/10 of the times last night he put balls in where there were ZERO people in the box. OK, so people want one up front. But Aguero was so deep it was unbelievable. Why? He wasn't the usual Aguero last night, it was disappotinting from him. The reason Navas sometimes hesitates is that nobody is ever in the box. And that INCLUDES when we play dzeko and aguero (dzeko loves trying to play left wing).
Bony has looked like Benjani in all of his cameos. However; in his only start, at Leicester for me played really well and was unlucky to not bag 1-2 goals. He needs starts.
Wilson Raine wrote:So going/looking forward for this team.....
Sell Yaya, Nasri, Jovetic, Kolarov, Boyata
Miner will be off this summer on a free, Lampard off to NY. Get rid of Demichelis,
Bring in Lopes or Zuculini and Denayer.
Buy Craig Gardner or Jordan Henderson and as left back Domenico Criscito from Zenit.
iwasthere2012 wrote:Wilson Raine wrote:So going/looking forward for this team.....
Sell Yaya, Nasri, Jovetic, Kolarov, Boyata
Miner will be off this summer on a free, Lampard off to NY. Get rid of Demichelis,
Bring in Lopes or Zuculini and Denayer.
Buy Craig Gardner or Jordan Henderson and as left back Domenico Criscito from Zenit.
MDM got another year contract didn't he?
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