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After watching the dreadful performances of more than half of our so called superstars against Burnley is it time to start building a new team? This lot just don't seem interested anymore and I would jettison at least 6 of them in the summer.

Its certainly a dark period for us.

I would love to know what's going on in the background. Have they just lost interest and are total cunts? Is there a big split between certain players? Is it the manager?
Something is not right in the camp and it needs sorting NOW.

I do think we need a big shake up though.

Tough one really, i dont want to see the manager getting the chop but his signings in a couple of windows have been questionable to say the least. If we are to soend big and revamp the squad can he be really trusted to spend it wisely.

Also another thing that has fucked me off is not using opportunites to blood some of the clearly very talented young players. Whether in league cup games or the odd 15 mins when comfortable.

He needs to sort this very quickly or i have no doubt he will be a gonner in the summer. No top 4 would be a disaster.

Basically.

Kolarov
Dzeko
Fernando
Ferna
Toure
Milner
Jovetic

Can do one for me we need to rebuild the midfield and sign a new left back.

lets all have a disco wrote:Basically.

Kolarov
Dzeko
Fernando
Ferna
Toure
Milner
Jovetic

Can do one for me we need to rebuild the midfield and sign a new left back.

I would probably keep Fernandinho from that lot but if the others did go and we brought in 2 or 3 high quality players it would be time to fill the other spaces with youngsters like Denayer,Lopes,Angelino and others.

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:

lets all have a disco wrote:Basically.

Kolarov
Dzeko
Fernando
Ferna
Toure
Milner
Jovetic

Can do one for me we need to rebuild the midfield and sign a new left back.

I would probably keep Fernandinho from that lot but if the others did go and we brought in 2 or 3 high quality players it would be time to fill the other spaces with youngsters like Denayer,Lopes,Angelino and others.

He was all action on Saturday but his shots at goal were woeful skin of his teeth for me plus he is 30.

I think it needs freshening up a little. Hopefully some of the brighter prospects getting a chance and making an impact. I do think we need an exciting stellar signing too.

We need a hungrier younger team apart from Milner who does have hunger but wont sign the rest i believe havent got the heart.

Get rid.

Dzonkey out, Mr Mase out, Barack out, Glassetic out, Mr Cake out

I think some of the malaise in the side stems from Yaya's shit in the summer - I think the Balkan trio are a cancer in the club

Fernando I just don't see the point of

lets all have a disco wrote:Basically.

Kolarov
Dzeko
Fernando
Ferna
Toure
Milner
Jovetic

Can do one for me we need to rebuild the midfield and sign a new left back.

All them plus Fenandinho can all fuck off . Moving Yaya on is imperative he has caused all sorts of shit this season if rumours are to be believed and another total non fucking can't be arsed show at turf moor , he has been instrumental to our success the last 4 years but now is the time to move him on .

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:

lets all have a disco wrote:Basically.

Kolarov
Dzeko
Fernando
Ferna
Toure
Milner
Jovetic

Can do one for me we need to rebuild the midfield and sign a new left back.

I would probably keep Fernandinho from that lot but if the others did go and we brought in 2 or 3 high quality players it would be time to fill the other spaces with youngsters like Denayer,Lopes,Angelino and others.

Agreed.

Pellegrini has been disgusting when it comes to our youth.....fuckall chances given.

Disgrace.

If it wasn't for ffp I would say yes we should rebuild this summer - from manager to players
Agree with the above list of players and I might be tempted to add nasri and Navas to that list
We need a decent left back and centre back (Denayer? Word is he's been decent in Scotland) - total rebuild required in midfield and a star striker or two
Now I think about it goalkeeper wise we could be better off as well
I'd suggest the only safe player if I was in charge would be aguero and he'd be on thin ice

carl_feedthegoat wrote:Pellegrini has been disgusting when it comes to our youth.....fuckall chances given.
Disgrace.

i agree but when your job status is seemingly connected to winning trophies i can see why Manuel wouldn't want to risk losing in the Cups by playing youngsters and why he would prefer to have first teamers on the bench in the league in case we need to chase a match.

that being said, we do need to start bringing through some youngsters.

Wooders wrote:If it wasn't for ffp I would say yes we should rebuild this summer - from manager to players
Agree with the above list of players and I might be tempted to add nasri and Navas to that list
We need a decent left back and centre back (Denayer? Word is he's been decent in Scotland) - total rebuild required in midfield and a star striker or two
Now I think about it goalkeeper wise we could be better off as well
I'd suggest the only safe player if I was in charge would be aguero and he'd be on thin ice

Well we have to do something as this squad has come to the end of the road.

FUCK FFP take another fine.

Agree with everything above. I'd also keep fernandinho as we paid so much for him and his re-sale value would be worthless, I'd sell jovetic and nasri and try get isco, sell fernando and replace him with a world class CM, probably to partner Yaya as I think he would definitely come back to haunt us if we let him go!

Kolarov can be upgraded, Zaba needs a young hungry challenger putting pressure on him, not Sagna. I wouldn't sign another CB and bring Denayer through instead.

Dzeko can be upgraded and we should get decent money for him too. Plus another quality CM for when Lampard and potentially Milner leave too. That's a shit lot of money to spend though and I doubt UEFA would let us get away with it! Also I'm not sure I trust Pellegrini or the Spafia to make the right signings anyway! Very difficult decisions ahead!

Of the first team squad I can see many going, this would be my take on it.

Staying

GK
Willy Caballero
Joe Hart - HG
Richard Wright - HG

Defenders
Jason Denayer - To come in
Bacary Sagna
Dedryck Boyata - HG
Eliaquim Mangala
Gael Clichy - HG
Martin Demichelis
Pablo Zabaleta
Vincent Kompany

Midfielders
Fernando
Fernandinho
Jesus Navas
Marcos Lopes - to come in
Samir Nasri
David Silva
Yaya Toure

Attackers
Sergio Aguero
Edin Dzeko
Wilfried Bony

Going

GK
None

Defenders
Matija Nastasic
Micah Richards
Aleksandar Kolarov
Karim Rekik

Midfielders
Frank Lampard
James Milner
Scott Sinclair

Attackers
John Guidetti
Stevan Jovetic
Alvaro Negredo

Wonderwall wrote:Of the first team squad I can see many going, this would be my take on it.

Staying

GK
Willy Caballero
Joe Hart - HG
Richard Wright - HG

Defenders
Jason Denayer - To come in
Bacary Sagna
Dedryck Boyata - HG
Eliaquim Mangala
Gael Clichy - HG
Martin Demichelis
Pablo Zabaleta
Vincent Kompany

Midfielders
Fernando
Fernandinho
Jesus Navas
Marcos Lopes - to come in
Samir Nasri
David Silva
Yaya Toure

Attackers
Sergio Aguero
Edin Dzeko
Wilfried Bony

Going

GK
None

Defenders
Matija Nastasic
Micah Richards
Aleksandar Kolarov
Karim Rekik

Midfielders
Frank Lampard
James Milner
Scott Sinclair

Attackers
John Guidetti
Stevan Jovetic
Alvaro Negredo

I am with the others that Fernando should go unless we are missing something he just hasn't got it.I thought he was quality right at the start but has either gone backwards or I was completely wrong.

If Denayer comes in Boyata is pointless. I would also get rid of Richard Wright and promote Angus Gunn. He won't play first team anyway and is perfectly good enough for 3rd choice keeper.

I also think the time is right for Yaya to move on. He has been brilliant for us and still has tons of quality but I do wonder whether he is the right influence on players around him. My main reason though is that he is the heart of the team's style of play and I think we need to change that a bit to get quicker in the play.

I think we should consider moving one of yaya or Silva now.

I also think if someone wants to spend silly money on Kompany then he can go too.

I'm fine with both Ferns staying actually.

I like Pogba. Schneiderlin. Rabiot. Younger extreme talent. Or insane work rate.

We will miss Milner a lot, tho he blows hot and cold.

We need some fullbacks.

I don't think we need to buy strikers even if we sell. Give the Nacho or Cole or one of the other two who are heating up a shot.

Lots of changes this summer you'd presume.

What a shit season. Out with a whimper and not a bang. Fucking really depressed about it. I think it's in prelude to actually losing the title so that when it happens I've gotten it mostly out of my system and I can say "fuck off football" until august.

Come on Summer!!!

Cheers

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:

Wonderwall wrote:Of the first team squad I can see many going, this would be my take on it.

Staying

GK
Willy Caballero
Joe Hart - HG
Richard Wright - HG

Defenders
Jason Denayer - To come in
Bacary Sagna
Dedryck Boyata - HG
Eliaquim Mangala
Gael Clichy - HG
Martin Demichelis
Pablo Zabaleta
Vincent Kompany

Midfielders
Fernando
Fernandinho
Jesus Navas
Marcos Lopes - to come in
Samir Nasri
David Silva
Yaya Toure

Attackers
Sergio Aguero
Edin Dzeko
Wilfried Bony

Going

GK
None

Defenders
Matija Nastasic
Micah Richards
Aleksandar Kolarov
Karim Rekik

Midfielders
Frank Lampard
James Milner
Scott Sinclair

Attackers
John Guidetti
Stevan Jovetic
Alvaro Negredo

I am with the others that Fernando should go unless we are missing something he just hasn't got it.I thought he was quality right at the start but has either gone backwards or I was completely wrong.

If Denayer comes in Boyata is pointless. I would also get rid of Richard Wright and promote Angus Gunn. He won't play first team anyway and is perfectly good enough for 3rd choice keeper.

I also think the time is right for Yaya to move on. He has been brilliant for us and still has tons of quality but I do wonder whether he is the right influence on players around him. My main reason though is that he is the heart of the team's style of play and I think we need to change that a bit to get quicker in the play.

If the manager goes, Willy will be gone, I would take Paul Robinson for Free he also frees up another outfield spot.

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:

Wonderwall wrote:Of the first team squad I can see many going, this would be my take on it.

Staying

GK
Willy Caballero
Joe Hart - HG
Richard Wright - HG

Defenders
Jason Denayer - To come in
Bacary Sagna
Dedryck Boyata - HG
Eliaquim Mangala
Gael Clichy - HG
Martin Demichelis
Pablo Zabaleta
Vincent Kompany

Midfielders
Fernando
Fernandinho
Jesus Navas
Marcos Lopes - to come in
Samir Nasri
David Silva
Yaya Toure

Attackers
Sergio Aguero
Edin Dzeko
Wilfried Bony

Going

GK
None

Defenders
Matija Nastasic
Micah Richards
Aleksandar Kolarov
Karim Rekik

Midfielders
Frank Lampard
James Milner
Scott Sinclair

Attackers
John Guidetti
Stevan Jovetic
Alvaro Negredo

I am with the others that Fernando should go unless we are missing something he just hasn't got it.I thought he was quality right at the start but has either gone backwards or I was completely wrong.

If Denayer comes in Boyata is pointless. I would also get rid of Richard Wright and promote Angus Gunn. He won't play first team anyway and is perfectly good enough for 3rd choice keeper.

I also think the time is right for Yaya to move on. He has been brilliant for us and still has tons of quality but I do wonder whether he is the right influence on players around him. My main reason though is that he is the heart of the team's style of play and I think we need to change that a bit to get quicker in the play.

pretty much agree with that, sagna too TBH, but I would play yaya further forward if we are to keep him