Is it time to start again?

[Mase]

"physical violence towards Balotelli"

Bloody ell mate he dragged him by his top. Hardly call it physical violence for crying out loud. As a manager he shouldn't do it. Probably as much as Sir Alice shouldn't have kicked/thrown a boot at Beckham. It happens.

And if that happened in your workplace?

Like I said, it wasn't the only incident, it was just the only one reported

Ahh the old "if that happened in your workplace" argument. The fact is football is completely different and separate from any normal work place in the world! It's been proven time and time again. If I failed a drugs test where I worked I would get fired. I wouldn't just get a couple of months ban from work.
If it came out at work that I'd had a threesome with a couple of hookers in my own private time I'm sure no one would be bothered. But if I football does it its all over the papers.

You can't compare 'normal' jobs to football.

But just like the pattern of behaviour of players who appear to be downing tools under successive managers, Mancini displayed a pattern of behaviour towards everyone at the club which was frankly weird.

He got away with it for as long as he brought success (hence I agree to an extent with your argument about football being different), but the minute his methods stopped bringing success, his political capital in the eyes of the Spafia was practically zero and that pattern of behaviour could no longer be tolerated.

This is why I hope it's different with Pellegrini, and that the club support him over the players this time round. He's not (as far as we know) alienated everyone in the club with weird and aggressive behaviour, but by all accounts is a decent guy who has shown he knows how to win. They don't have the excuse that they had with Mancini, and that alone should raise enough questions with the Spafia about the role of the players in our current predicament.

I agree that it was the right time for Mancini to go for what it's worth.

[Hazy2]

Mancini was a nutter who also wanted total control of the club, like Ferguson. City don't want the club to be dependant on the manager, so he's gone.

I think one of our big players may go next season but I don't think it will be Silva.

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Balo who would not want to fill him in. Mancini lost nothing in putting the loon in his place The players who threw an FA Cup Final have proved they are just as flawed time and time again, tbf they have provided the greatest of times as well mixed in with cowardly performances.

[lets all have a disco]

I'd being using Jovetic and Nasri as bait for Pogba,

Dzeko can go to Germany, Kolarov to italy.

Fernando the local market

Fernandinho Spain.

[sheblue]

I'd being using Jovetic and Nasri as bait for Pogba,

Dzeko can go to Germany, Kolarov to italy.

Fernando the local market

Fernandinho Spain.

cattle market? seriously he could be good if he did not have to do it all himself.

[Ted Hughes]

Or we could just leave him alone for a while & see if he can get used to the pace of the Premier League, which he admits he hasn't managed to do, yet.

If you were to make a list of players who struggled at new clubs, & then imagine what would have happened if they had been discarded in their first season, some of the best players of all time would have been moved on as being 'shit'. And many household names who became club legends.

[Wonderwall]

Or we could just leave him alone for a while & see if he can get used to the pace of the Premier League, which he admits he hasn't managed to do, yet.

If you were to make a list of players who struggled at new clubs, & then imagine what would have happened if they had been discarded in their first season, some of the best players of all time would have been moved on as being 'shit'. And many household names who became club legends.

Henry is a prime example!

[lets all have a disco]

Or we could just leave him alone for a while & see if he can get used to the pace of the Premier League, which he admits he hasn't managed to do, yet.

If you were to make a list of players who struggled at new clubs, & then imagine what would have happened if they had been discarded in their first season, some of the best players of all time would have been moved on as being 'shit'. And many household names who became club legends.

Henry is a prime example!

Wait a darn minute, Henry was brought in as a winger Arsene through good management realised he would be a better forward and set about the process of converting him into one of IMHO the best three strikers to grace the field.
Maybe we should play Fernando elsewhere.

[Ted Hughes]

Or we could just leave him alone for a while & see if he can get used to the pace of the Premier League, which he admits he hasn't managed to do, yet.

If you were to make a list of players who struggled at new clubs, & then imagine what would have happened if they had been discarded in their first season, some of the best players of all time would have been moved on as being 'shit'. And many household names who became club legends.

Henry is a prime example!

Wait a darn minute, Henry was brought in as a winger Arsene through good management realised he would be a better forward and set about the process of converting him into one of IMHO the best three strikers to grace the field.
Maybe we should play Fernando elsewhere.

Maybe we should have a look at him next season & see if he comes to terms with it all, rather than turning on him now ?

[Dameerto]

How tall is Fernando? He'd probably do a decent job in central defence right now - that's the strongest area of his game. Might be a bit on the 'skinny' side for the Prem though.

[iwasthere2012]

How tall is Fernando? He'd probably do a decent job in central defence right now - that's the strongest area of his game. Might be a bit on the 'skinny' side for the Prem though.

I threw that out as a random thought last week or the week before. If he curbed the diving in bit, who knows.
I'm not a big fan of him, for his technical inability, but I wouldn't write him off yet. He certainly doesn't hide from work. Unfortunately the amount he is left to do on his own, he is just not capable of handling alone.
He wouldn't be first in my list of 'who to sell in the summer'.

[Hazy2]

Or we could just leave him alone for a while & see if he can get used to the pace of the Premier League, which he admits he hasn't managed to do, yet.

If you were to make a list of players who struggled at new clubs, & then imagine what would have happened if they had been discarded in their first season, some of the best players of all time would have been moved on as being 'shit'. And many household names who became club legends.

Not a bad idea, Is that the reason Milner has not signed a new deal though, he wants to lose his tag of jack of all trades, Is he on a promise of the holding roll with Henderson at the dippers?

[sheblue]

How tall is Fernando? He'd probably do a decent job in central defence right now - that's the strongest area of his game. Might be a bit on the 'skinny' side for the Prem though.

I threw that out as a random thought last week or the week before. If he curbed the diving in bit, who knows.
I'm not a big fan of him, for his technical inability, but I wouldn't write him off yet. He certainly doesn't hide from work. Unfortunately the amount he is left to do on his own, he is just not capable of handling alone.
He wouldn't be first in my list of 'who to sell in the summer'.

This is a big problem for him, often asked to do too much while the others stroll around leaving it all up to him. After his debut in the first game, newcastle away, it was clear that some in the team would just sit back and let him do it.

[Ted Hughes]

Or we could just leave him alone for a while & see if he can get used to the pace of the Premier League, which he admits he hasn't managed to do, yet.

If you were to make a list of players who struggled at new clubs, & then imagine what would have happened if they had been discarded in their first season, some of the best players of all time would have been moved on as being 'shit'. And many household names who became club legends.

Not a bad idea, Is that the reason Milner has not signed a new deal though, he wants to lose his tag of jack of all trades, Is he on a promise of the holding roll with Henderson at the dippers?

Milner wants to play centre attacking mid apparently. So does Silva, Nasri, Yaya, Jovetic, Rony Lopes, Pozo....

I remember Souness saying years ago he arrived to manage a club & half the team told him they wanted to play 'just behind the striker'. He figured out they were a bunch of lazy cunts.

Tbf to Milner, it wouldn't be a bad shout to try him there. He would put more energy into working around Aguero, than any of the others.

[Tokyo Blue]

Maybe we should play Fernando elsewhere.

Aye, Boundary fucking Park.

[Ted Hughes]

Maybe we should play Fernando elsewhere.

Aye, Boundary fucking Park.

I don't get why people are so down on Fernando. He's done some shit stuff & some good stuff. He hasn't had many top games or total shit games but plenty of 'so so' ones. I would say that is similar to the rest, apart from a couple who have had a lot of shit games, Vinny & Zabba for a start.

He hasn't proven himself good enough for City so far this season, but very few have. At least he has a bit of an excuse, being a new player.

[Hazy2]

Or we could just leave him alone for a while & see if he can get used to the pace of the Premier League, which he admits he hasn't managed to do, yet.

If you were to make a list of players who struggled at new clubs, & then imagine what would have happened if they had been discarded in their first season, some of the best players of all time would have been moved on as being 'shit'. And many household names who became club legends.

Not a bad idea, Is that the reason Milner has not signed a new deal though, he wants to lose his tag of jack of all trades, Is he on a promise of the holding roll with Henderson at the dippers?

Milner wants to play centre attacking mid apparently. So does Silva, Nasri, Yaya, Jovetic, Rony Lopes, Pozo....

I remember Souness saying years ago he arrived to manage a club & half the team told him they wanted to play 'just behind the striker'. He figured out they were a bunch of lazy cunts.

Tbf to Milner, it wouldn't be a bad shout to try him there. He would put more energy into working around Aguero, than any of the others.

He nearly won us the League on hi own the rotation of him has had me baffled, no other fucker has deserved a 10/15 game run in a role, sad times that he must feel fuck it, see ya later !!!!!!!!!!!

[Ted Hughes]

Or we could just leave him alone for a while & see if he can get used to the pace of the Premier League, which he admits he hasn't managed to do, yet.

If you were to make a list of players who struggled at new clubs, & then imagine what would have happened if they had been discarded in their first season, some of the best players of all time would have been moved on as being 'shit'. And many household names who became club legends.

Not a bad idea, Is that the reason Milner has not signed a new deal though, he wants to lose his tag of jack of all trades, Is he on a promise of the holding roll with Henderson at the dippers?

Milner wants to play centre attacking mid apparently. So does Silva, Nasri, Yaya, Jovetic, Rony Lopes, Pozo....

I remember Souness saying years ago he arrived to manage a club & half the team told him they wanted to play 'just behind the striker'. He figured out they were a bunch of lazy cunts.

Tbf to Milner, it wouldn't be a bad shout to try him there. He would put more energy into working around Aguero, than any of the others.

He nearly won us the League on hi own the rotation of him has had me baffled, no other fucker has deserved a 10/15 game run in a role, sad times that he must feel fuck it, see ya later !!!!!!!!!!!

He's been injured.

Pellegrini has started him in plenty of important games. Probably will tonight if he's fit enough.

[Wonderwall]

Maybe we should play Fernando elsewhere.

Aye, Boundary fucking Park.

I don't get why people are so down on Fernando. He's done some shit stuff & some good stuff. He hasn't had many top games or total shit games but plenty of 'so so' ones. I would say that is similar to the rest, apart from a couple who have had a lot of shit games, Vinny & Zabba for a start.

He hasn't proven himself good enough for City so far this season, but very few have. At least he has a bit of an excuse, being a new player.

maybe not Ted, but I pissed myself at TB's response. Its good to laugh!

[Ted Hughes]

Maybe we should play Fernando elsewhere.

Aye, Boundary fucking Park.

I don't get why people are so down on Fernando. He's done some shit stuff & some good stuff. He hasn't had many top games or total shit games but plenty of 'so so' ones. I would say that is similar to the rest, apart from a couple who have had a lot of shit games, Vinny & Zabba for a start.

He hasn't proven himself good enough for City so far this season, but very few have. At least he has a bit of an excuse, being a new player.

maybe not Ted, but I pissed myself at TB's response. Its good to laugh!

So did I, but Fernando is the best quality laughing stock I've ever seen.

[Hazy2]

Maybe we should play Fernando elsewhere.

Aye, Boundary fucking Park.

I don't get why people are so down on Fernando. He's done some shit stuff & some good stuff. He hasn't had many top games or total shit games but plenty of 'so so' ones. I would say that is similar to the rest, apart from a couple who have had a lot of shit games, Vinny & Zabba for a start.

He hasn't proven himself good enough for City so far this season, but very few have. At least he has a bit of an excuse, being a new player.

maybe not Ted, but I pissed myself at TB's response. Its good to laugh!

So did I, but Fernando is the best quality laughing stock I've ever seen.

Best quality Ted, that is stretching it ! I wish the lad well BTW. Despite the warm words I see Milner at Liverpool sadly.