South Stand Balti wrote:I have not seen Neville's comments yesterday,but he has always seemed to be the best pundit by a mile to me. I do not think our centre back partnership is any better than Kompany and Lescott. The full backs are the same. Is Fernando and improvement on De Jong? Is Navas a better bet than Johnson? Is Jovetic any better than Tevez or Bellamy? I do think we are better off in some ways e.g. no Mario bull shit, Bony is a great signing for me etc. Overall though, I'm not sure we are any better equipped.
Ted Hughes wrote:South Stand Balti wrote:I have not seen Neville's comments yesterday,but he has always seemed to be the best pundit by a mile to me. I do not think our centre back partnership is any better than Kompany and Lescott. The full backs are the same. Is Fernando and improvement on De Jong? Is Navas a better bet than Johnson? Is Jovetic any better than Tevez or Bellamy? I do think we are better off in some ways e.g. no Mario bull shit, Bony is a great signing for me etc. Overall though, I'm not sure we are any better equipped.
I don't know why you are including Bellamy, but anyhow, players have had to be replaced & who are we ?
Answer: Champions.
We may be again this season & we will be stronger still next season. That's job done as far as I can see. We are not going to win the title every single year anyhow & if we did, I'd pack in watching it.
Original Dub wrote:Of course we have progressed.
We scored the most goals in the division and just won a double.
You'd have to be either retarded or have an agenda to say otherwise.
We have hardly ever had our strongest side on the pitch ever, for two seasons, but we won the league last year & are close 2nd now, in spite of having key players missing in different positions for a large part of the season & playing ten games with no strikers. Previous to that, the same cunts said we were a one man team.
We had Barry & Lescott coming toward the end of their careers, & Tevez/ DeJong having been sold already from our first team. That's 4 of the main players from that team gone & we replaced all of them & scored 100 goals . Tevez, Barry & Lescott were some of the mainstays of the cup & title winning team, & Nige wasn't far behind.
We lost those but won the double, playing the best pass & move attacking football in the league. We found a cenre forward to suit Pellegrini's system, & lost him due to personal problems, plus have been handicapped by Platini to stop us from replacing him.
We have just replaced him & his replacement can't kick a ball til Feb.
Neville knows exactly how this works but he'd rather talk this shite instead. What it effectively does, is devalues our title from last season, & if we win it this year, it's already devalued again because we 'haven't progressed'. They are writing our history for us. 'Not as good as Utd were'.
It's fucking bullshit.
Cocacolajojo wrote:We have hardly ever had our strongest side on the pitch ever, for two seasons, but we won the league last year & are close 2nd now, in spite of having key players missing in different positions for a large part of the season & playing ten games with no strikers. Previous to that, the same cunts said we were a one man team.
We had Barry & Lescott coming toward the end of their careers, & Tevez/ DeJong having been sold already from our first team. That's 4 of the main players from that team gone & we replaced all of them & scored 100 goals . Tevez, Barry & Lescott were some of the mainstays of the cup & title winning team, & Nige wasn't far behind.
We lost those but won the double, playing the best pass & move attacking football in the league. We found a cenre forward to suit Pellegrini's system, & lost him due to personal problems, plus have been handicapped by Platini to stop us from replacing him.
We have just replaced him & his replacement can't kick a ball til Feb.
Neville knows exactly how this works but he'd rather talk this shite instead. What it effectively does, is devalues our title from last season, & if we win it this year, it's already devalued again because we 'haven't progressed'. They are writing our history for us. 'Not as good as Utd were'.
It's fucking bullshit.
Spot on.
Original Dub wrote:Of course we have progressed.
We scored the most goals in the division and just won a double.
You'd have to be either retarded or have an agenda to say otherwise.
personally i think neville talks a lot of sense, but on sunday he was talking as a scum fan, hes gotta remember when scum won a lot of their titles it was between them and arsenal, a lot of two horse races. now youve got us liverpool last season chelsea this and last season and arsenal always theirabouts, spurs are getting better and saints surprise team this season. we have past all the previous top 4 teams and made the league a lot more interesting so now 5 into 4 never fits, liverpool cant really compete in the transfer market with us, scum have had to spend 250 million to limp into 4th place as it stands, where at one time if scum had spent that amount of cash they would be miles in front and it hurts neville. hence we have to dominate to be hailed as a great side, with the introduction of unfair play i dont think any team will dominate as we have seen in the past, but i think neville is really worried that scum wont make top 4 despite flashing the cash around. also if you look at their performances this season, if they had been drawn in our group in champions league they would never had qualified. they would probably ended up in the europa league very worrying.
Cocacolajojo wrote:personally i think neville talks a lot of sense, but on sunday he was talking as a scum fan, hes gotta remember when scum won a lot of their titles it was between them and arsenal, a lot of two horse races. now youve got us liverpool last season chelsea this and last season and arsenal always theirabouts, spurs are getting better and saints surprise team this season. we have past all the previous top 4 teams and made the league a lot more interesting so now 5 into 4 never fits, liverpool cant really compete in the transfer market with us, scum have had to spend 250 million to limp into 4th place as it stands, where at one time if scum had spent that amount of cash they would be miles in front and it hurts neville. hence we have to dominate to be hailed as a great side, with the introduction of unfair play i dont think any team will dominate as we have seen in the past, but i think neville is really worried that scum wont make top 4 despite flashing the cash around. also if you look at their performances this season, if they had been drawn in our group in champions league they would never had qualified. they would probably ended up in the europa league very worrying.
I agree with most of that and I really don't mind if Neville's biased as IMO, he's kept it on a reasonable level. However, as of this season, he seems to be letting himself go and it's not like we need more ex-united players or sycophants twisting and turning everything we do into something negative. It's not like anyone really needs that. It's just irritating.
South Stand Balti wrote:Original Dub wrote:Of course we have progressed.
We scored the most goals in the division and just won a double.
You'd have to be either retarded or have an agenda to say otherwise.
Or even have an opinion of your own.
Original Dub wrote:South Stand Balti wrote:Original Dub wrote:Of course we have progressed.
We scored the most goals in the division and just won a double.
You'd have to be either retarded or have an agenda to say otherwise.
Or even have an opinion of your own.
Nope.
Retarded or have an agenda.
Do you agree with him, that since we became champions we have not progressed?
That a double is not progression on a title win?
Oh do tell...
Original Dub wrote:South Stand Balti wrote:Original Dub wrote:Of course we have progressed.
We scored the most goals in the division and just won a double.
You'd have to be either retarded or have an agenda to say otherwise.
Or even have an opinion of your own.
Nope.
Retarded or have an agenda.
Do you agree with him, that since we became champions we have not progressed?
That a double is not progression on a title win?
Oh do tell...
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