kompany - trading on past glory?

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Re: kompany - trading on past glory?

Postby nottsblue » Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:32 pm

Cocacolajojo wrote:
is Latin name? Vincentus Titus Bramblus Kompanus.

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I'm taking credit for that. You can be my Clark, but I am Lewis.

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Re: kompany - trading on past glory?

Postby Nigels Tackle » Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:44 pm

nottsblue wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:
is Latin name? Vincentus Titus Bramblus Kompanus.

Cheers


I'm taking credit for that. You can be my Clark, but I am Lewis.

Lol


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Re: kompany - trading on past glory?

Postby Im_Spartacus » Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:57 pm

Ironically, the move that led to our goal also came from a Kompany mistake, a wild slice that obviously surprised the liverpool player it went to, allowing us to counter
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Re: kompany - trading on past glory?

Postby Hazy2 » Sun Mar 01, 2015 1:12 pm

Passive annoying and letting it hapoen, get a grip.
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Re: kompany - trading on past glory?

Postby london blue 2 » Sun Mar 01, 2015 1:58 pm

I counted five excellent vital blocks/challenges in the second half. He done better. That said his mistakes are killing us.
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Re: kompany - trading on past glory?

Postby mr_nool » Sun Mar 01, 2015 2:02 pm

london blue 2 wrote:I counted five excellent vital blocks/challenges in the second half. He done better. That said his mistakes are killing us.


I didn't see the first half, but I also thought he did well in the second apart from that horror pass to Mangala.

Our whole defence had a very ungrateful task today, with Liverpool running through our midfield like hot knives through butter, leaving the back four constantly having to defend against opponents coming at them with speed.
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Re: kompany - trading on past glory?

Postby stevefromdonny » Sun Mar 01, 2015 2:03 pm

I know that he picks the team, but once they go over the touchline ITS UP TO THE PLAYERS TO PERFORM AND PUT A SHIFT IN, not piss about with the ball and try and take too many touches and lose the ball.
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Re: kompany - trading on past glory?

Postby stevefromdonny » Sun Mar 01, 2015 2:04 pm

anyway im going to watch ENGLAND IN THE RUGBY, COME ON ENGLAND
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Re: kompany - trading on past glory?

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Sun Mar 01, 2015 2:07 pm

I mean, there are two routes here... and IMO, both are true.

On the one hand, City as a team are failing miserably. Players are not working for each other, there is little or no cooperation between midfield and defence, Pellegrini persists in letting one player cover for Yaya even though the other four attacking players are not pulling their shift, and so on. Kompany's form, and basically everyone's form, is suffering from these basic weaknesses. Pellegrini's not fixing them and as long as he does not, we can't expect that anyone's form will pick up and neither will Kompany's. As is also plain to see, he's not the only one in defence committing basic errors and if Kompany gets shit for basic mistakes, so does everyone else. Right now, we are playing we a defensive unit... well we're not playing as a unit. There are four players trying to do their best individually but without little cooperation. Dropping Kompany won't solve that problem, Pellegrini needs to work things out from scratch.

On the other hand, I don't think anyone matches Kompany in the amount of chances he creates for the other team. As Kompany showed in teh second half, he can do basic things correctly, like running for a ball, covering it with his body, and then pass it to another player. But then he'll make a new basic mistake again. And again. and again. Fine, the other defenders are not covering their men properly either or communicating with each other. Kompany however does not only fail to do that however, he also fumbles basic clearances and passes and makes them into perfect goal scoring chances.

And even if you don't agree with me on that, then think about who he is and what his role in the defence is. He's supposed to be better than the rest. He's supposed to help Mangala, because Mangala is younger and new to the team and the style of play. I would say he leaves Mangala to his own. One might say that Kolarov commits as many mistakes as Kompany, but it's fucking Kolarov. If he is the defensive yardstick, then we know we are in trouble.ANd Kolarov's job is not be a perfect defender, part of his job is to force the opposition winger and fullback up the pitch in fear of his runs and crosses. That's what he brings to the pitch. Kompany's supposed to bring defensive solidity and make the team comfortable. He does not.

I also wonder, although this is pure speculation, if Mangala would perhaps even play better without a nervous, over thinking, over working captain at his side. I don't know, but it's probably worth a shot.

Drop Kompany. We probably will not play better without him, I think that would be wistful thinking. But it might help him clear his head. He needs to get back to basics. It worked with Hart.
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Re: kompany - trading on past glory?

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Sun Mar 01, 2015 2:09 pm

I counted five excellent vital blocks/challenges in the second half. He done better. That said his mistakes are killing us.


Mangala and Kompany did much better in the second half, but IMO, we're partly giving them credit for doing basic things. We've just not been spoilt by seeing such things lately.
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Re: kompany - trading on past glory?

Postby Clowncrete » Sun Mar 01, 2015 2:12 pm

Cocacolajojo wrote:
I also wonder, although this is pure speculation, if Mangala would perhaps even play better without a nervous, over thinking, over working captain at his side. I don't know, but it's probably worth a shot.

Drop Kompany. We probably will not play better without him, I think that would be wistful thinking. But it might help him clear his head. He needs to get back to basics. It worked with Hart.


Mangler did look like a better player alongside Demichelis around December when Kompany was injured.
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Re: kompany - trading on past glory?

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Sun Mar 01, 2015 2:14 pm

london blue 2 wrote:I counted five excellent vital blocks/challenges in the second half. He done better. That said his mistakes are killing us.

He and Zab improved vastly in the second half, but they were beyond shite in the first.
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Re: kompany - trading on past glory?

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Sun Mar 01, 2015 2:18 pm

Cocacolajojo wrote:I mean, there are two routes here... and IMO, both are true.

On the one hand, City as a team are failing miserably. Players are not working for each other, there is little or no cooperation between midfield and defence, Pellegrini persists in letting one player cover for Yaya even though the other four attacking players are not pulling their shift, and so on. Kompany's form, and basically everyone's form, is suffering from these basic weaknesses. Pellegrini's not fixing them and as long as he does not, we can't expect that anyone's form will pick up and neither will Kompany's. As is also plain to see, he's not the only one in defence committing basic errors and if Kompany gets shit for basic mistakes, so does everyone else. Right now, we are playing we a defensive unit... well we're not playing as a unit. There are four players trying to do their best individually but without little cooperation. Dropping Kompany won't solve that problem, Pellegrini needs to work things out from scratch.

On the other hand, I don't think anyone matches Kompany in the amount of chances he creates for the other team. As Kompany showed in teh second half, he can do basic things correctly, like running for a ball, covering it with his body, and then pass it to another player. But then he'll make a new basic mistake again. And again. and again. Fine, the other defenders are not covering their men properly either or communicating with each other. Kompany however does not only fail to do that however, he also fumbles basic clearances and passes and makes them into perfect goal scoring chances.

And even if you don't agree with me on that, then think about who he is and what his role in the defence is. He's supposed to be better than the rest. He's supposed to help Mangala, because Mangala is younger and new to the team and the style of play. I would say he leaves Mangala to his own. One might say that Kolarov commits as many mistakes as Kompany, but it's fucking Kolarov. If he is the defensive yardstick, then we know we are in trouble.ANd Kolarov's job is not be a perfect defender, part of his job is to force the opposition winger and fullback up the pitch in fear of his runs and crosses. That's what he brings to the pitch. Kompany's supposed to bring defensive solidity and make the team comfortable. He does not.

I also wonder, although this is pure speculation, if Mangala would perhaps even play better without a nervous, over thinking, over working captain at his side. I don't know, but it's probably worth a shot.

Drop Kompany. We probably will not play better without him, I think that would be wistful thinking. But it might help him clear his head. He needs to get back to basics. It worked with Hart.

Spot on. We actually looked decent with Mangala and Demichelis so I'd be happy with those two playing for the next few games.
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Re: kompany - trading on past glory?

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Mar 01, 2015 2:52 pm

Kompany showed signs of getting his shit together again.

Would be madness to drop him imo. He is still better than the other 6 defenders.
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Re: kompany - trading on past glory?

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Mar 01, 2015 3:04 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:Kompany showed signs of getting his shit together again.

Would be madness to drop him imo. He is still better than the other 6 defenders.


He has just about single handedly cost us the title with the amount of goals hes been directly guilty of giving away since coming back from injury so the cunt might as well carry on as is.
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Re: kompany - trading on past glory?

Postby Nigels Tackle » Sun Mar 01, 2015 3:19 pm

leadership skills were non-existent today
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Re: kompany - trading on past glory?

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Mar 01, 2015 3:35 pm

Nigels Tackle wrote:leadership skills were non-existent today


Only today ?
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Re: kompany - trading on past glory?

Postby DoomMerchant » Sun Mar 01, 2015 3:43 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:leadership skills were non-existent today


Only today ?


No. Not only today.

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Re: kompany - trading on past glory?

Postby nottsblue » Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:45 pm

Wouldn't be surprised if he has a "training ground knock" and is unavailable for selection v Leicester. A rest would do him good I reckon
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Re: kompany - trading on past glory?

Postby South Stand Balti » Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:11 pm

stevefromdonny wrote:anyway im going to watch ENGLAND IN THE RUGBY, COME ON ENGLAND

It's really not your day today.
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