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So he's leaving for £6.7m?

Seems about right...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... paign=1490

He may be into his thirties but he'll have two years on his contract in the summer so he'll be worth a lot more than 6 or 7 million.

blues2win wrote:He may be into his thirties but he'll have two years on his contract in the summer so he'll be worth a lot more than 6 or 7 million.

Even more than shane long??

I'm sorry but I can't see his value reaching those dizzy heights.

I'd take the £6.7m while we can.

Think about who we could buy with that money ffs!!

How many cakes could we get for that?

They can't afford his wages.

South Stand Balti wrote:They can't afford his wages.

Ah, but it is so horrible at City with all these missing cakes, mercenaries, no team spirit, empty seats, defeats to lower league teams in the cups, poor european performances, etc. etc., that he will play anywhere else for a pittance just to escape his Manchester nightmare.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer ... ID=HP_BN_1

Yaya's agent not knowing which hole to open for talking

Bleed_Blue wrote:http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2015/02/22/9164352/toure-wants-to-stay-at-man-city-for-life-agent?ICID=HP_BN_1

Yaya's agent not knowing which hole to open for talking

"He knows world football. The only market that City want to buy players from at the moment is Spain."

A statement backed by the fact we bought 2 players from Portugal, 2 from England, 1 from Argentina and 1 from Spain this season.

If it were me, my problem would not be selling him, it's how do you replace him? There is no player in the world that has his skill set and his physical attributes and we are very Yaya-centric.

Bleed_Blue wrote:http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2015/02/22/9164352/toure-wants-to-stay-at-man-city-for-life-agent?ICID=HP_BN_1

Yaya's agent not knowing which hole to open for talking

This is what I was saying just a few days ago.

When Yaya has been asked in the past about City in recent times, he has said on several occasions that he would like to stay. He used to say he'd do a few years & be off, but in recent times he's expressed the desire to finish at City. I think that's the whole crux of all this 'cakegate' stuff; Yaya wants to stay at City, but City haven't given him an indication it's going to happen, so he talks about 'not knowing' where he'll be or finishing his career here & there.They ask him about various teams & he says 'maybe' it would be nice to play for 'A' 'B' 'C' or finish his career there whatever. But then they ask him about City, & he says he would like to stay basically forever.

I have no doubt City speak to other clubs about Yaya, it's the way big clubs operate. I think Yaya knows this & that's why he talks the way he does. He genuinely doesn't know. Like Milner.

Slim wrote:

Bleed_Blue wrote:http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2015/02/22/9164352/toure-wants-to-stay-at-man-city-for-life-agent?ICID=HP_BN_1

Yaya's agent not knowing which hole to open for talking

"He knows world football. The only market that City want to buy players from at the moment is Spain."

A statement backed by the fact we bought 2 players from Portugal, 2 from England, 1 from Argentina and 1 from Spain this season.

If it were me, my problem would not be selling him, it's how do you replace him? There is no player in the world that has his skill set and his physical attributes and we are very Yaya-centric.

Yaya is evolving into a more replaceable player as he loses his athleticism though, imo.

Slim wrote:

Bleed_Blue wrote:http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2015/02/22/9164352/toure-wants-to-stay-at-man-city-for-life-agent?ICID=HP_BN_1

Yaya's agent not knowing which hole to open for talking

"He knows world football. The only market that City want to buy players from at the moment is Spain."

A statement backed by the fact we bought 2 players from Portugal, 2 from England, 1 from Argentina and 1 from Spain this season.

If it were me, my problem would not be selling him, it's how do you replace him? There is no player in the world that has his skill set and his physical attributes and we are very Yaya-centric.

I think we don't replace him, we use him less and replace the two F's with better quality. I've often thought in the "Lesser" games, Yaya can often be a passanger, so as he is aging, leave him on the bench for these type of games, let the "hopeful" signings of a Pogba blosum when the big man is not on the pitch. Id be happy with yaya doing this role for the next 3-4 years as long as his peformances don't drop and he still delivers the Yaya factor

Bluedj wrote:

Slim wrote:

Bleed_Blue wrote:http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2015/02/22/9164352/toure-wants-to-stay-at-man-city-for-life-agent?ICID=HP_BN_1

Yaya's agent not knowing which hole to open for talking

"He knows world football. The only market that City want to buy players from at the moment is Spain."

A statement backed by the fact we bought 2 players from Portugal, 2 from England, 1 from Argentina and 1 from Spain this season.

If it were me, my problem would not be selling him, it's how do you replace him? There is no player in the world that has his skill set and his physical attributes and we are very Yaya-centric.

I think we don't replace him, we use him less and replace the two F's with better quality. I've often thought in the "Lesser" games, Yaya can often be a passanger, so as he is aging, leave him on the bench for these type of games, let the "hopeful" signings of a Pogba blosum when the big man is not on the pitch. Id be happy with yaya doing this role for the next 3-4 years as long as his peformances don't drop and he still delivers the Yaya factor

We can't have Yaya degenerating & play the same way, we would have to adapt. Now Yaya can still get behind the ball, even if he can't sprint back too often.

Once that goes, we need two there, all the time, at least against decent teams or one absolute super defensive player (which is what Fernando was signed for). We are already at the stage where playing our 'strongest' team could lead to disaster v Liverpool next week & at the Camp Nou for example.

It could be that a different kind of midfield, would allow the rest of City's team to play more or less the same way, without Yaya, apart from the Yaya bit.

If we end up having to build the team to protect Yaya, is he the best player for that role, or would some other ageing playmaker be better ?

Yaya's agent is going to be pushing hard soon for a two year extension on the same wages. That would take Yaya well into his mid thirties. I just can't see the Club being prepared to do that so there could be trouble ahead. One option would be for him to play out his contract and then be given a Club job like responsibility for developing the brand in Africa for instance. Soriano says they look three years ahead in transfer planning so they will be looking now at a future post Yaya. There is no like for like replacement but I can't believe they won't be in for Pogba very seriously if he becomes available in the summer which looks quite likely.

blues2win wrote:Yaya's agent is going to be pushing hard soon for a two year extension on the same wages. That would take Yaya well into his mid thirties. I just can't see the Club being prepared to do that so there could be trouble ahead. One option would be for him to play out his contract and then be given a Club job like responsibility for developing the brand in Africa for instance. Soriano says they look three years ahead in transfer planning so they will be looking now at a future post Yaya. There is no like for like replacement but I can't believe they won't be in for Pogba very seriously if he becomes available in the summer which looks quite likely.

And they will have looked at the possibility of offloading Yaya for decent money or as a part ex & talked to clubs about it.

That imo, is probably the cause of the recent problems, & why his agent is criticising the Spaniards whilst sucking up to Sheikh Mansour.

Not because Yaya wants to leave, but because he doesn't.

I am not sure Yaya has it in him to last to his mid-30's. His frame is too large which, as a benefit now, will accelerate his decline as he gets slower.

It's been said by just about everyone in this thread, replacing him would require a reworking of the midfield. Fernando/Pogba will not cut it, not against Bayern or Real. Fernando/Fernandinho/Pogba...maybe, would not hurt to replace Fern1 with a better player, how's Barker coming? Is he done yet?

Slim wrote:I am not sure Yaya has it in him to last to his mid-30's. His frame is too large which, as a benefit now, will accelerate his decline as he gets slower.

It's been said by just about everyone in this thread, replacing him would require a reworking of the midfield. Fernando/Pogba will not cut it, not against Bayern or Real. Fernando/Fernandinho/Pogba...maybe, would not hurt to replace Fern1 with a better player, how's Barker coming? Is he done yet?

Barker is basically a potential Peter Barnes or Ryan Giggs. Imo if Sinclair can play in the Premier League for Aston Villa, then all of our EDS could play for Aston Villa. But that's not City of course.

We don'r have any kids who would replace Fernando or Fernandinho directly at any time soon. We have a whole bunch with a *chance* of one day being part of a Barca style all running passing unit. All talented.

Nearest to a Fernando/Dinho currently is a lad called Keane Bryan. Could imagine him one day anchoring a 433 or diamond. Potential is there. Good defender, hard worker, decent on the ball, with a little bit of 'something'. Could end up Roy Keane. Could end up Gary Megson. We will just have to see.

But as I've said before; I'd try Jason Denayer there & see how it looks.

Ted Hughes wrote:

Slim wrote:I am not sure Yaya has it in him to last to his mid-30's. His frame is too large which, as a benefit now, will accelerate his decline as he gets slower.

It's been said by just about everyone in this thread, replacing him would require a reworking of the midfield. Fernando/Pogba will not cut it, not against Bayern or Real. Fernando/Fernandinho/Pogba...maybe, would not hurt to replace Fern1 with a better player, how's Barker coming? Is he done yet?

Barker is basically a potential Peter Barnes or Ryan Giggs. Imo if Sinclair can play in the Premier League for Aston Villa, then all of our EDS could play for Aston Villa. But that's not City of course.

We don'r have any kids who would replace Fernando or Fernandinho directly at any time soon. We have a whole bunch with a *chance* of one day being part of a Barca style all running passing unit. All talented.

Nearest to a Fernando/Dinho currently is a lad called Keane Bryan. Could imagine him one day anchoring a 433 or diamond. Potential is there. Good defender, hard worker, decent on the ball, with a little bit of 'something'. Could end up Roy Keane. Could end up Gary Megson. We will just have to see.

But as I've said before; I'd try Jason Denayer there & see how it looks.

I wished we got more Scottish games over here so I could see what you guys see, but then again they'd probably take the time away from something I actually enjoy like La Liga or Bundesliga. If reports are to be believed, he is ready next season to start making inroads into the 1st team, but I thought the same for Pozo this season and that's gone nowhere fast.

We did Pozo no favours at all by playing him in that position imo. Against people like Jagielka with his back to goal ? At least we should have given him chance to redeem himself by giving him a few minutes playing a more creative role. He struggled to regain his form at EDS level after that.

Denayer is very close. Whether he's close enough, we can only see by trying him. But I just feel he's good enough to play at City in some capacity even if cb is too much to start. Kompany did a season in midfield. Denayer also is really great 1v1. I'm not sure Zabs or Sagna would stop any player who could beat Denayer.

I'd let him run down his contract and have another look at it between now and then. I'm not convinced with the players touted to replace him and we perhaps need a new strategy that means moving the ball faster through the midfield. Unless we can convince him to add just another year onto his contract, which would be perfect.

The truth is he still anchors our side. Everything goea through him and we are a better side with him there. The more defensive options simply make us less effective going forward whilst still being fragile at the back.
We still need Yaya