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Re: EDS/Academy Games

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:13 pm
by Douglas Higginbottom
Justified logic wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Didn't see the games( gutted) but a most notable poiny was the age difference between the 2 teams. As I understand it our average age was 18 and a bit compared to their 21 +. At those ages that's a massive difference and it does serve to underline the quality we have coming through.

Speaking to a red before the game and he fely City were bound to win as they have so many players out on loan which weakens their team so much at this age group. I decided not to follow that one through as I would guess we have twice as many elible under 23's on loan at least and much better ones as well.

From the year ages on Soccerway I'd say it was closer than that; more like 19- and 20+ - about an average 1.5 to 2 years difference. Still a massive at that age.



I was going from a post somebody made who I assumed had researched it. 2 years is big which is usually what stands out when our youth teams play i.e. the other team are bigger

Re: EDS/Academy Games

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:19 pm
by Douglas Higginbottom
iwasthere2012 wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Didn't see the games( gutted) but a most notable poiny was the age difference between the 2 teams. As I understand it our average age was 18 and a bit compared to their 21 +. At those ages that's a massive difference and it does serve to underline the quality we have coming through.

Speaking to a red before the game and he fely City were bound to win as they have so many players out on loan which weakens their team so much at this age group. I decided not to follow that one through as I would guess we have twice as many elible under 23's on loan at least and much better ones as well.


Like I said earlier Doug, I only caught about 35 minutes of it.
We were a man up and 1-2 to the good.
United, to their credit, did still try to get back in the game but we were comfortable enough and dangerous on the break.
We still have a bit of a panic in defence at times, similar to the first team.
Noticeable was the absence of diving into challenges, but this also led to standing off a bit too much around the box.
A minor complaint, and Angus looked very assured in goal. He dealt with anything I saw, comfortably.
We hit them quite a few times on the break and Sancho in particular, was a menace as was Fernandes.
Diaz was buzzing but as you say above, the United team were older and bigger.
Quite a few times he worked magic to get himself into the box only to be leveraged off the ball. He is very tricky though and a delight to watch. Took his goal beautifully placing it calmly into the bottom left after a run and pull back by Fernandes.
Ricketts-Buckley looked sharp also.

Sancho is only 16 though and for me each time I see him I can't help feeling that if this guy doesn't make it with us, then we are failing somewhere at Academy level.

If anyone on here saw the whole game I'd love to hear an opinion. Is the half hour or so I saw a true reflection of the full ninety, because I really do think for a bunch of 16-19 year olds to be second in the U23 league is a brilliant achievement. Probably a truer reflection of the talent we have than our U14-16's hammering teams.


My guess is it will be a true reflection. The 3 lads ( Diaz,Sancho and Fernandez) are a joy to watch as I have said a few times I am sure. 17,16 and 18 years old. The question for the first two is more about how and when to get them playing first team as that will happen. Diaz had his first few minutes away ar Swansea which indicates he is in the manager's mind but nothing since then which does disappoint me.

Not that they should be heavily involved but for me the bench should be a mix of experience and youth and we just don't seem to do that much.

Re: EDS/Academy Games

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:35 pm
by iwasthere2012
U23 highlights

See if this works, for anyone interested in seeing the goals.

Re: EDS/Academy Games

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:25 pm
by Mikhail Chigorin
I don't know if this has been asked before (apologies and ignore if it has) but, just as a matter of interest, do any of the youth sides play the defensive system with three at three at the back or, alternatively, have any of them 'experimented' with it recently, or do they just stick to the more 'orthodox' back four set-up ??

Re: EDS/Academy Games

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:29 pm
by Justified logic
iwasthere2012 wrote:U23 highlights

See if this works, for anyone interested in seeing the goals.

Thanks.

So United scored with their only attempt on goal.

Re: EDS/Academy Games

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:40 pm
by iwasthere2012
Justified logic wrote:
iwasthere2012 wrote:U23 highlights

See if this works, for anyone interested in seeing the goals.

Thanks.

So United scored with their only attempt on goal.

They had a couple of decent chances in the second half but put them wide. A few shots that were more like passes to Angus as well.

Re: EDS/Academy Games

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:17 pm
by Mikhail Chigorin
City's third goal was very pleasing in that it showed the virtues of rapid and effective pressing.

Mind you, having won the ball, the finish was pretty tidy as well.

Re: EDS/Academy Games

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:02 am
by Douglas Higginbottom
iwasthere2012 wrote:U23 highlights

See if this works, for anyone interested in seeing the goals.


Just watching those brief highlights brings a smile to my face. Such close ball control at pace from Diaz,Sancho and Fernandez. I wonder of all 3 will play on Friday against Spurs.Well worth going to watch at the academy stadium.

Re: EDS/Academy Games

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:56 am
by Wonderwall
Manu Garcia has gone on loan to NAC until the end of the season.

Re: EDS/Academy Games

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:51 pm
by Fidel Castro
Wonderwall wrote:Manu Garcia has gone on loan to NAC until the end of the season.


Weird one. Thought he had a good chance of making it with us, but going to NAC is about 20 steps backwards.

Re: EDS/Academy Games

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:08 am
by Douglas Higginbottom
Fidel Castro wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:Manu Garcia has gone on loan to NAC until the end of the season.


Weird one. Thought he had a good chance of making it with us, but going to NAC is about 20 steps backwards.


Still has a chance but he has to really stand up and be counted in this loan. I would liken him to Dennis Suarez in many ways ( although maybe not quite as good) in that he looks a talented player but somehow never quite delivers consistently. There will always be some very good moments in games but in his last year with us I tended to be disappointed that he never managed to dominate a game as I thought he should.

Re: EDS/Academy Games

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:00 pm
by Wonderwall
Ian Lawlor has joined Doncaster permanently for an undisclosed fee

Re: EDS/Academy Games

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:05 pm
by Wonderwall
Glendon has also signed for Fleetwood permanently after being on load there for the first half of the season

Re: EDS/Academy Games

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:22 pm
by nottsblue
Any fees mentioned? One would also hope for a sell on clause as well

Re: EDS/Academy Games

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:15 pm
by Wonderwall
nottsblue wrote:Any fees mentioned? One would also hope for a sell on clause as well


Both are undisclosed. It's a pet hate of mine this undisclosed bollocks. They have to disclose them to the accounts so anyone can see in a year or so. Then why keep it secretive now? This is one thing the FA could sort out with ease. Everything transparent please for every club.

Re: EDS/Academy Games

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:20 pm
by iwasthere2012
What time is the Cit v Spurs game tonight.

Re: EDS/Academy Games

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:01 pm
by nottsblue
iwasthere2012 wrote:What time is the Cit v Spurs game tonight.

Think it's 7:00pm. It's 0-0 at half time

Re: EDS/Academy Games

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:20 pm
by nottsblue
nottsblue wrote:
iwasthere2012 wrote:What time is the Cit v Spurs game tonight.

Think it's 7:00pm. It's 0-0 at half time

We are now winning 2-0

Re: EDS/Academy Games

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:25 pm
by iwasthere2012
nottsblue wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
iwasthere2012 wrote:What time is the Cit v Spurs game tonight.

Think it's 7:00pm. It's 0-0 at half time

We are now winning 2-0

Is it on any station?

Re: EDS/Academy Games

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:25 pm
by Wonderwall
iwasthere2012 wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
iwasthere2012 wrote:What time is the Cit v Spurs game tonight.

Think it's 7:00pm. It's 0-0 at half time

We are now winning 2-0

Is it on any station?


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