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Puskas Award 2014 best Goal.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:01 pm
by iwasthere2012
I purposely didn't start this thread until after the results.
Rodriguez's goal is a very worthy winner in my opinion. What I was wondering though was how many of you think that Stephanie Roche's goal was there on merit.
I personally am delighted for the girl. I think it was a cracker of a goal and didn't appreciate it as much when I watched it first time. I think the quality of the footage has been enhanced since my first viewing on Youtube.
There is no doubt that if it wasn't for the campaign launched in Ireland to get people to vote for her, she would never have got a sniff near these awards in Zurich.
But then again, I'm sure the same kind of campaigning goes on for the other much more high profile candidates. It shows the power of social media these days.
I myself was going to post on here asking would people vote for her, but thought better of it.
The goal was scored in front of a crowd of just 95 people at Wexford's Ferrycarrig Park, but over six million fans viewed the goal on YouTube and sparked hopes that Roche could become the first woman to claim the coveted award.
I suppose it's not like scoring in the World Cup but it was a terrific bit of skill none the less and she did beat Van Persie to second spot.
Well done Steph.

Re: Puskas Award 2014 best Goal.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:11 pm
by Sister of fu
An amazing goal at what ever level you play. If Messi scores that it would be played over and over and over. You have to have some level of technical ability to pull something off like that whether you are a man or women. Its a once in a lifetime goal and she is very lucky that it was captured on film.

Re: Puskas Award 2014 best Goal.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:11 pm
by Ted Hughes
It's a better goal than the one which won.

Never even remembered that Rodgiguez one until now tbh. Shearer used to do that once a month.

Re: Puskas Award 2014 best Goal.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:24 pm
by john@staustell
I dont want to sexist here, because I'm not. I'm fully behind City women and their adventures.

But there are 100s of good goals at all levels every weekend, and I think combining these 2 levels (men and women) is on the verge of ludicrous - would she have scored that against the same oppo as the winner?

Furthermore I've never really been a fan of the big Justin Fashanu-style hoik getting goal-of-the-whatever. We all know that the other 100 times it will go well into the crowd - I've even scored those myself. It's the goals which show some Kinkladze/Henry-style skill that should win every time

Re: Puskas Award 2014 best Goal.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:30 pm
by twosips
The Roche goal was incredible skill regardless of gender. Yes, that'd have gone in against a bloke.

Reminds me of an absolutely wonderful goal Henry once scored in a preseason friendly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NryZDUog2Y

Cos it was a friendly it was ignored but its majestic. Much, much better than Rodriguez's very standard long range goal.

Re: Puskas Award 2014 best Goal.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:39 pm
by Ted Hughes
You'll never guess who I once saw, 'almost' score an identical goal to the one Roche scored..

Re: Puskas Award 2014 best Goal.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:45 pm
by Peter Doherty (AGAIG)
Ted Hughes wrote:You'll never guess who I once saw, 'almost' score an identical goal to the one Roche scored..

Lescott?

Re: Puskas Award 2014 best Goal.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:51 pm
by iwasthere2012
john@staustell wrote:I dont want to sexist here, because I'm not. I'm fully behind City women and their adventures.

But there are 100s of good goals at all levels every weekend, and I think combining these 2 levels (men and women) is on the verge of ludicrous - would she have scored that against the same oppo as the winner?

Furthermore I've never really been a fan of the big Justin Fashanu-style hoik getting goal-of-the-whatever. We all know that the other 100 times it will go well into the crowd - I've even scored those myself. It's the goals which show some Kinkladze/Henry-style skill that should win every time


Certainly the point I was trying to make, or gauge opinion on, was nothing to do with the gender of the person scoring. That was some piece of skill by anybody's standards. I was kind of hoping against hopes that she would win, but knew in my heart and soul that she wouldn't. I just think it is remarkable that they managed to get the goal as far as it got, through the power of a social media campaign. I voted for it myself.
Two arguments here as far as I can see.
1. Does the standard of football league game being played matter? (nothing to do with gender) and
2. If it had been some low league game of similar standard in a male league, would it have got as far.(definitely gender related)
I would like to think that people didn't vote for her just because she was female and trying to prove a point. I know a lot of people over here voted because she is Irish and not because she is female. That in itself is a bias, but like I said originally, I'm sure every candidate has their own campaign behind them.
I never thought she would win regardless. I didn't think she'd be allowed to win, because of the profile of the award and sponsors etc. but I could be doing FIFA an injustice.
No matter. I think the goal was a good one, on it's own merit.

Re: Puskas Award 2014 best Goal.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:02 pm
by Ted Hughes
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:You'll never guess who I once saw, 'almost' score an identical goal to the one Roche scored..

Lescott?


Ched Evans.

Re: Puskas Award 2014 best Goal.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:08 pm
by iwasthere2012
https://img.rasset.ie/000a0284-642.jpg

Great picture here of her, for her family album. Ronaldo having a good look.

Re: Puskas Award 2014 best Goal.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:34 pm
by s1ty m
I thought the two we scored in 3 minutes at Wembley were among the best goals. No mention.

Re: Puskas Award 2014 best Goal.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:50 pm
by sheblue
s1ty m wrote:I thought the two we scored in 3 minutes at Wembley were among the best goals. No mention.


if a MCFC player headed a goal from his own 6 yard box, there still wouldn't be a mention.
But seriously she should have won it.

Re: Puskas Award 2014 best Goal.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:52 pm
by Mikhail Chigorin
Ted Hughes wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:You'll never guess who I once saw, 'almost' score an identical goal to the one Roche scored..

Lescott?


Ched Evans.


That's a let-down, Ted.

I thought you were going to say Savic.

Re: Puskas Award 2014 best Goal.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:24 pm
by Green & Blue
Best goal of the lot and I'm not saying that just because I'm Irish.

Re: Puskas Award 2014 best Goal.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:44 pm
by Tokyo Blue
When I watched them all the way through I thought Roche's goal should win it. It was the one goal where I thought, "I wish I'd scored that".

Re: Puskas Award 2014 best Goal.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:18 pm
by Wooders
Would have been nice if she won it seeing as it was the best goal and all that

Re: Puskas Award 2014 best Goal.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:52 pm
by iwasthere2012
Green & Blue wrote:Best goal of the lot and I'm not saying that just because I'm Irish.

Agree it was the best of the three, but the question is, if she wasn't Irish would you have voted at all.

Re: Puskas Award 2014 best Goal.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:36 pm
by Peter Doherty (AGAIG)
Ted Hughes wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:You'll never guess who I once saw, 'almost' score an identical goal to the one Roche scored..

Lescott?


Ched Evans.

Wow! And I mean wow!

Re: Puskas Award 2014 best Goal.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:39 pm
by Peter Doherty (AGAIG)
To be honest, I thought Mr Persie's goal (and piece of skill) was the kind of goal that you rarely see anywhere these days. Sublime.

Re: Puskas Award 2014 best Goal.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:47 pm
by iwasthere2012
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:To be honest, I thought Mr Persie's goal (and piece of skill) was the kind of goal that you rarely see anywhere these days. Sublime.

Yes. But he's a dick.