Frank Lampard - Should He Stay or Should He Go?

[Beefymcfc]

Quite a simple question really, after our reputation being so-called 'tarnished' with the ongoing question of 'Should Lampard return to the MLS as originally agreed?', I was wondering what your thoughts were.

I've given a few choices in the Poll but please feel free to voice another opinion in here.

There are obvious implications for each:

a. would leave us short in the midfield and Lampard's experience, and game, would be sorely missed.
b. this may piss-off the NYCFC fans but help us out for a limited time.
c. this would really piss-off the NYCFC fans and could lead to fans walking away before it's even played a game - we'd be alright though!

So, a tricky one but and I'd go for option b, covering our bases whilst still respecting NYCFC and their fans.

What are your thoughts?

[City64]

C for me . Fuck everyone else , Frank is a top class footballer and has fitted in exceptionally well , the MLS can wait for now !

[Beefymcfc]

C for me . Fuck everyone else , Frank is a top class footballer and has fitted in exceptionally well , the MLS can wait for now !

Wouldn't that upset the NYCFC franchise, and their supports in-turn?

[Douglas Higginbottom]

I don't think our owners will shaft NYCFC but I expect a stay till the end of January.

[ruralblue]

Think he'll be here till Yaya returns from ACON. His job will be done by then. Wish he stays until the end of the season though.

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

I'm all in favour of him staying till Yaya gets back. It covers our backs for that period and he still gets to start the new season in the USA from the first game.

[stevefromdonny]

ive gone for b, but aint NYCFC coming over soon to start training at our place. so I would think that it make sense for him to stay here and train with both teams then he will know the NYCFC players and go over in the 2nd week of feb

[Ted Hughes]

I don't care about a few people sulking if he starts with NYC late, as they will get all kinds of good shit from City over the coming years to make up for it & he will be there for some time once he arrives.

It could be the last time he ever gets to be involved in a Premier League title race, & he is one of the most influential players of the Premier League era. He deserves to be allowed to finish his Premier League career in style, rather than used for marketing purposes, & NYC should let him do it.

He will turn up for the main part of their season as a key player, not an old hasbeen, simply because of his involvement with City this season & any 'fans' who are so mortally wounded by him arriving a few months late, are most likely going to walk out at the first bad set of results anyway & won't be any use to the club long term. The ones who are going to stick around, will reluctantly accept that it's a big thing both for MCFC & for Frank Lampard; winning the Premier League, & they are getting a better, sharper, quality player because of that, rather than a 2nd hand toy thrown out by Chelsea .

Lampard wants to do this, & they should cheer him on, then welcome a champion into their team.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

If nycfc get the shits with us surely sheik should just remind them whose boss.

He's been a bigger influence than I anticipated and fuck he's grown on me. Keep him as long as we can.

[Mikhail Chigorin]

I don't care about a few people sulking if he starts with NYC late, as they will get all kinds of good shit from City over the coming years to make up for it & he will be there for some time once he arrives.

It could be the last time he ever gets to be involved in a Premier League title race, & he is one of the most influential players of the Premier League era. He deserves to be allowed to finish his Premier League career in style, rather than used for marketing purposes, & NYC should let him do it.

He will turn up for the main part of their season as a key player, not an old hasbeen, simply because of his involvement with City this season & any 'fans' who are so mortally wounded by him arriving a few months late, are most likely going to walk out at the first bad set of results anyway & won't be any use to the club long term. The ones who are going to stick around, will reluctantly accept that it's a big thing both for MCFC & for Frank Lampard; winning the Premier League, & they are getting a better, sharper, quality player because of that, rather than a 2nd hand toy thrown out by Chelsea .

Lampard wants to do this, & they should cheer him on, then welcome a champion into their team.

Absolutely and, since we've been forced to play without any forwards at the moment, our goal-scoring midfield complement must be maintained up to strength (especially with Yaya's disappearance to ACON becoming imminent), in case our striker shortage woes continue further until the end of the season.

[Tokyo Blue]

I don't give the tiniest little clinker about New York City Football Club.

He stays with City. If the New York people don't like it, stiff shit.

[Beefymcfc]

Looking at the figures so far we're at 2/3rds to stay the season and 1/3rd to cover until Yaya is back. It's interesting that people see NYCFC as a subsidiary of MCFC rather than a standalone club, and we should do all what is best for City, and nothing more. Being a City fan for many years I can see where people are coming from, we look after ourselves, but on the other hand Frank Lampard was signed for NYCFC and loaned him to us (Or is it the MLS that have loaned him to us on behalf of NYCFC?) so there should be some respect in that agreement.

The reason this thread came about was because when I was reading an article there was a link to a NYCFC forum (which I thought strange because they've not even played a game yet). They have a thread on this exact subject and it seems there is a lot of animosity been caused with the reporting of events. The 'New' supporters of NYCFC don't seem to see the club as part of the CFG but see it as a standalone club that should be doing MCFC no favours. In fact, I got the distinct impression that these new supporters were followers of other PL teams and have turned to a club of their own in the states.

One thing it may do is harm their introduction into the MLS with fans knowing that we're going to poach players willy-nilly to better our own needs whilst their club becomes subservient. I'm not sure if that's what our custodians want.

[Nigels Tackle]

see what business we do in jan and then decide
in the meantime make sure he's got enough appearances to ensure he picks up a league winners medal and then private jet him back for the presentation - when he'll don a full kit john terry style!

[Ted Hughes]

Looking at the figures so far we're at 2/3rds to stay the season and 1/3rd to cover until Yaya is back. It's interesting that people see NYCFC as a subsidiary of MCFC rather than a standalone club, and we should do all what is best for City, and nothing more. Being a City fan for many years I can see where people are coming from, we look after ourselves, but on the other hand Frank Lampard was signed for NYCFC and loaned him to us (Or is it the MLS that have loaned him to us on behalf of NYCFC?) so there should be some respect in that agreement.

The reason this thread came about was because when I was reading an article there was a link to a NYCFC forum (which I thought strange because they've not even played a game yet). They have a thread on this exact subject and it seems there is a lot of animosity been caused with the reporting of events. The 'New' supporters of NYCFC don't seem to see the club as part of the CFG but see it as a standalone club that should be doing MCFC no favours. In fact, I got the distinct impression that these new supporters were followers of other PL teams and have turned to a club of their own in the states.

One thing it may do is harm their introduction into the MLS with fans knowing that we're going to poach players willy-nilly to better our own needs whilst their club becomes subservient. I'm not sure if that's what our custodians want.

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/news/club-news/20 ... nch-21-may

Manchester City Football Club are proud to announce, in partnership with the New York Yankees, the acquisition of the Major League Soccer’s 20th expansion club.

The new team will be named New York City Football Club (NYCFC) and expects to begin play in 2015.

“We proudly welcome two of the most prestigious professional global sports organizations to Major League Soccer,” said MLS Commissioner Don Garber.

[carl_feedthegoat]

I don't think our owners will shaft NYCFC but I expect a stay till the end of January.

He will be here beyond January.

[phips]

Think he'll be here till Yaya returns from ACON. His job will be done by then. Wish he stays until the end of the season though.

this. theres no point to him leaving to go train in NY for 2 months. he'll leave when Yaya gets back and join up with NYCFC before the MLS season starts

[Herb]

I can hardly believe the arrogance of some posters on here - it's rag-cafe-esque in it's 'we're the centre of the universe' attitude.

Some things to consider: -
We don't own NYCFC = Fact
NYCFC do own Super-Frank = Fact
City Football Group own MCFC outright but are 'part' owners of NYCFC, Melbourne City FC and Yokohama F.Marinos - they have a responsibility to all of their businesses and also to their business partners = Fact
If we were NYCFC fans we'd have every right to want what was best for our club
If we were the directors of NYCFC we'd have a legal obligation to act in the best interests of our business
We should be grateful to have had Frank on loan and grovelling lay delighted to have had the loan extended to February
We would be twats if we expected NYCFC to automatically bow to the interests of MCFC - if a deal is struck it must be in their favour as much as ours.

[carl_feedthegoat]

I can hardly believe the arrogance of some posters on here - it's rag-cafe-esque in it's 'we're the centre of the universe' attitude.

Some things to consider: -
We don't own NYCFC = Fact
NYCFC do own Super-Frank = Fact
City Football Group own MCFC outright but are 'part' owners of NYCFC, Melbourne City FC and Yokohama F.Marinos - they have a responsibility to all of their businesses and also to their business partners = Fact
If we were NYCFC fans we'd have every right to want what was best for our club
If we were the directors of NYCFC we'd have a legal obligation to act in the best interests of our business
We should be grateful to have had Frank on loan and grovelling lay delighted to have had the loan extended to February
We would be twats if we expected NYCFC to automatically bow to the interests of MCFC - if a deal is struck it must be in their favour as much as ours.

The thread was titled do we think he should stay or go.

I think he should stay and couldn't give a fuckign rats arse what the NYCFC think about that.

And another thing , if MCFC want him to stay then he will stay.

[nottsblue]

Can we sign him permanantly in January?

[JamieMCFC]

Looking at the figures so far we're at 2/3rds to stay the season and 1/3rd to cover until Yaya is back. It's interesting that people see NYCFC as a subsidiary of MCFC rather than a standalone club, and we should do all what is best for City, and nothing more. Being a City fan for many years I can see where people are coming from, we look after ourselves, but on the other hand Frank Lampard was signed for NYCFC and loaned him to us (Or is it the MLS that have loaned him to us on behalf of NYCFC?) so there should be some respect in that agreement.

The reason this thread came about was because when I was reading an article there was a link to a NYCFC forum (which I thought strange because they've not even played a game yet). They have a thread on this exact subject and it seems there is a lot of animosity been caused with the reporting of events. The 'New' supporters of NYCFC don't seem to see the club as part of the CFG but see it as a standalone club that should be doing MCFC no favours. In fact, I got the distinct impression that these new supporters were followers of other PL teams and have turned to a club of their own in the states.

One thing it may do is harm their introduction into the MLS with fans knowing that we're going to poach players willy-nilly to better our own needs whilst their club becomes subservient. I'm not sure if that's what our custodians want.

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/news/club-news/20 ... nch-21-may

Manchester City Football Club are proud to announce, in partnership with the New York Yankees, the acquisition of the Major League Soccer’s 20th expansion club.

The new team will be named New York City Football Club (NYCFC) and expects to begin play in 2015.

“We proudly welcome two of the most prestigious professional global sports organizations to Major League Soccer,” said MLS Commissioner Don Garber.

If the City Football Group wants NYCFC to be a success then they need to send Lampard back. They already have two strikes against them. The stadium situation and the kits. It might take them years to fix their image if ever. Right now they are seen as next coming Chivas USA the MLS club Chivas Guadalajara (Liga MX) started. A club that was just shut down this year because of how poorly they had been run and the small support they had. Another similarity between Chivas USA and NYCFC is they both have well supported clubs in their city to compete with LA Galaxy and New York Red Bulls.