dazby wrote:He saved us the other point with the three brilliant saves he made.
It's a bit sad we couldn't score twice. Send your venom to the other end lads.
john@staustell wrote:Im_Spartacus wrote:dazby wrote:He saved us the other point with the three brilliant saves he made.
It's a bit sad we couldn't score twice. Send your venom to the other end lads.
I don't see why such a basic mistake gets a free ride.
I can accept keepers not saving a shot, I accept that they make mistakes from time to time. This though, was totally careless. Shocking really from a goalkeeper 'supposedly' rated amongst the top in the world
Basic error at West Brom, basic error yesterday. Not sure how we can sustain this rate too much.
Not so keen on the 'brilliant saves' - isn't that what a goalie is there for and trains for?
LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:
There is no way yesterday's goal was his fault, there's also no chance of him saving it if he'd stayed on his line.
Mase wrote:LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:
There is no way yesterday's goal was his fault, there's also no chance of him saving it if he'd stayed on his line.
So you're saying if he stays on his line he's not a good enough keeper to make an instinctive save? So you're admiting he's dog shit?
dazby wrote:john@staustell wrote:Im_Spartacus wrote:dazby wrote:He saved us the other point with the three brilliant saves he made.
It's a bit sad we couldn't score twice. Send your venom to the other end lads.
I don't see why such a basic mistake gets a free ride.
I can accept keepers not saving a shot, I accept that they make mistakes from time to time. This though, was totally careless. Shocking really from a goalkeeper 'supposedly' rated amongst the top in the world
Basic error at West Brom, basic error yesterday. Not sure how we can sustain this rate too much.
Not so keen on the 'brilliant saves' - isn't that what a goalie is there for and trains for?
Strikers train to score goals - yet Jojo and Sergio didn't do their job. Where's their criticism?
Ted Hughes wrote:A much bigger basic, is when the manager highlights that the biggest threat is from set pieces, & Everton have the ball in a situation of no danger whatsoever, just after we've scored, & one of our most experienced players just decides he will commit a totally random foul, so that Leighton Baines can fire a ball into our box.
Just like that. No pressure. 'There you go lads, have a set piece, like we've been talking about as the main danger all week'.
How the fuck can anything Joe Hart has done in the split second, be compared to that criminally shite action ?
And how many goals have been conceded like that, compared to mistakes by Hart, in the past 5 years ?
Why are some players fodder for blame, & others can do exactly what the fuck they like & get off scott free ?
Ted Hughes wrote:A much bigger basic, is when the manager highlights that the biggest threat is from set pieces, & Everton have the ball in a situation of no danger whatsoever, just after we've scored, & one of our most experienced players just decides he will commit a totally random foul, so that Leighton Baines can fire a ball into our box.
Just like that. No pressure. 'There you go lads, have a set piece, like we've been talking about as the main danger all week'.
How the fuck can anything Joe Hart has done in the split second, be compared to that criminally shite action ?
And how many goals have been conceded like that, compared to mistakes by Hart, in the past 5 years ?
Why are some players fodder for blame, & others can do exactly what the fuck they like & get off scott free ?
Im_Spartacus wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:A much bigger basic, is when the manager highlights that the biggest threat is from set pieces, & Everton have the ball in a situation of no danger whatsoever, just after we've scored, & one of our most experienced players just decides he will commit a totally random foul, so that Leighton Baines can fire a ball into our box.
Just like that. No pressure. 'There you go lads, have a set piece, like we've been talking about as the main danger all week'.
How the fuck can anything Joe Hart has done in the split second, be compared to that criminally shite action ?
And how many goals have been conceded like that, compared to mistakes by Hart, in the past 5 years ?
Why are some players fodder for blame, & others can do exactly what the fuck they like & get off scott free ?
I'm sorry if it's coming across that hart is getting called out alone for the situation. I fully agree the defenders were at fault, the bloke should never have had that much space.
My concern about hart's conduct, is that his 'split second decision' involved running to where he thought the ball was going to be, not where the attacker was going to be, a basic error for an experienced goalkeeper
Had he looked up and attacked the space the player was moving into, he would have got there first, no doubt about it
Regardless of the defence's actions, that is poor goalkeeping, poor awareness and poor decision making
Mase wrote:LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:
There is no way yesterday's goal was his fault, there's also no chance of him saving it if he'd stayed on his line.
So you're saying if he stays on his line he's not a good enough keeper to make an instinctive save? So you're admiting he's dog shit?
FA cup winners 2006 wrote:Mase wrote:LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:
There is no way yesterday's goal was his fault, there's also no chance of him saving it if he'd stayed on his line.
So you're saying if he stays on his line he's not a good enough keeper to make an instinctive save? So you're admiting he's dog shit?
Oh fuck off you whiney cock. How is he saying Hart is dogshit if he cant save a flicked header, you're putting words in peoples mouth because you are a complete wanker.
Hart made 2 excellent saves during the game to show that he is good enough to make them kind of instinctive saves.
Look at the goal again, why did Zabba move away from Naismith, Fernando was trying to tell Nasri to drop onto Naismith who didn't and Fernando ended up standing beside him but not goal side and never followed the run. Naismith was completely unmarked the entire time they were setting up the free kick. Maybe look at the entire set up for that free kick to see there was plenty of mistakes not only Hart's
Sideshow Bob wrote:Fully agree with Sparty and don't have much to add. But I will say I've long believed joe is good only when he's not required to make decisions, eg instinctive reaction saves. When he has to make a decision - how to organize a wall, where to position himself, where or how to distribute, when to come off his line, etc - he is fucking GASH and always will be. It's telling how much more relaxed and assured our other players have looked when pantillimon or caballero have started matches for us. I don't think they trust joe anymore than I do.
Mase wrote:FA cup winners 2006 wrote:Mase wrote:LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:
There is no way yesterday's goal was his fault, there's also no chance of him saving it if he'd stayed on his line.
So you're saying if he stays on his line he's not a good enough keeper to make an instinctive save? So you're admiting he's dog shit?
Oh fuck off you whiney cock. How is he saying Hart is dogshit if he cant save a flicked header, you're putting words in peoples mouth because you are a complete wanker.
Hart made 2 excellent saves during the game to show that he is good enough to make them kind of instinctive saves.
Look at the goal again, why did Zabba move away from Naismith, Fernando was trying to tell Nasri to drop onto Naismith who didn't and Fernando ended up standing beside him but not goal side and never followed the run. Naismith was completely unmarked the entire time they were setting up the free kick. Maybe look at the entire set up for that free kick to see there was plenty of mistakes not only Hart's
Turn it in you muppet I was being sarcastic! If you want to start calling people names do it in real life not over the internet.
FA cup winners 2006 wrote:Mase wrote:FA cup winners 2006 wrote:Mase wrote:LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:
There is no way yesterday's goal was his fault, there's also no chance of him saving it if he'd stayed on his line.
So you're saying if he stays on his line he's not a good enough keeper to make an instinctive save? So you're admiting he's dog shit?
Oh fuck off you whiney cock. How is he saying Hart is dogshit if he cant save a flicked header, you're putting words in peoples mouth because you are a complete wanker.
Hart made 2 excellent saves during the game to show that he is good enough to make them kind of instinctive saves.
Look at the goal again, why did Zabba move away from Naismith, Fernando was trying to tell Nasri to drop onto Naismith who didn't and Fernando ended up standing beside him but not goal side and never followed the run. Naismith was completely unmarked the entire time they were setting up the free kick. Maybe look at the entire set up for that free kick to see there was plenty of mistakes not only Hart's
Turn it in you muppet I was being sarcastic! If you want to start calling people names do it in real life not over the internet.
I apologise if you were being sarcastic, it doesn't always come across but it was these type of comments that I was hitting out at from fans. They are everywhere now, "Joe is the best keeper in the world one minute and shit the next. Zabba is past it and we need to get rid. Some after seeing mangalanfor 2 games were sayingnhe will never make it and we should get rid. Yaya, nasri, the 2 ferns, clichy, kolorov, dzeko, jovetic, milner demi, navas have all come in for criticism and comments of "get rid" if they makenone error. Although some of them might not be good enough for us to progress to the next level, they are still city players and should be cheered on and not be expected to be jumped on when they are trying their best but making small errors.
Also this has nothing to do with being on the internet. I would have said the same to your face if I heard you say it (and didnt pick up that you were being sarcastic)
Mase wrote:FA cup winners 2006 wrote:Mase wrote:FA cup winners 2006 wrote:Mase wrote:
So you're saying if he stays on his line he's not a good enough keeper to make an instinctive save? So you're admiting he's dog shit?
Oh fuck off you whiney cock. How is he saying Hart is dogshit if he cant save a flicked header, you're putting words in peoples mouth because you are a complete wanker.
Hart made 2 excellent saves during the game to show that he is good enough to make them kind of instinctive saves.
Look at the goal again, why did Zabba move away from Naismith, Fernando was trying to tell Nasri to drop onto Naismith who didn't and Fernando ended up standing beside him but not goal side and never followed the run. Naismith was completely unmarked the entire time they were setting up the free kick. Maybe look at the entire set up for that free kick to see there was plenty of mistakes not only Hart's
Turn it in you muppet I was being sarcastic! If you want to start calling people names do it in real life not over the internet.
I apologise if you were being sarcastic, it doesn't always come across but it was these type of comments that I was hitting out at from fans. They are everywhere now, "Joe is the best keeper in the world one minute and shit the next. Zabba is past it and we need to get rid. Some after seeing mangalanfor 2 games were sayingnhe will never make it and we should get rid. Yaya, nasri, the 2 ferns, clichy, kolorov, dzeko, jovetic, milner demi, navas have all come in for criticism and comments of "get rid" if they makenone error. Although some of them might not be good enough for us to progress to the next level, they are still city players and should be cheered on and not be expected to be jumped on when they are trying their best but making small errors.
Also this has nothing to do with being on the internet. I would have said the same to your face if I heard you say it (and didnt pick up that you were being sarcastic)
I made a comment (most likely on the Kola thread to state that players getting abuse is a joke but it's always been around with City fans and that I didn't agree with it. It winds me up when fans don't encourage the players and get on their back.
100% you wouldn't have said that to me if we'd been sat in a pub and you overhead me saying that, sarcastic or not. And if you would have just come out and said that without first challenging the person as to why they have that opinion without resorting to name calling it says a lot about you as a person mate if you'd just come out and call someone a "Whiny cock" and a "complete wanker" straight away without trying to prove them wrong. You're probably in for a hiding at some point. I'm pretty sure we're all here to disagree and have our own opinion. I do enjoying taking the piss quite a lot on here. Half the time I'm on a wind up because we're all City fans and I thought we could all take it.
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