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Re: Hart

Postby Hazy2 » Fri Nov 28, 2014 8:38 am

The free kick Alonso scored is one they have used for 20 years, different players same result, Scum in chumps final in Barca.
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Re: Hart

Postby dazby » Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:11 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
dazby wrote:Nonsense Wooders. He's as good as any out there and I wouldn't swap him for anyone.


Well that makes you clueless then as De GAY is far better than him and so is Cech.


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Re: Hart

Postby Cit.revenge » Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:36 am

I really think Hart cost us more then he save us. He save us game here and there and then every few games make a rookie mistake for 3 season now . We should have a better keeper really. And replace Pantilimon with Willy is one more stupid move. Question if we can bring anybody who you will love to see on our line ?
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Re: Hart

Postby dazby » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:44 pm

Here's a tip. Give it long enough and fans of every club will find fault with their keeper.

Except for David James. He was flawless in his time with us. But he didn't have to play chumps league.
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Re: Hart

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:47 pm

dazby wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
dazby wrote:Nonsense Wooders. He's as good as any out there and I wouldn't swap him for anyone.


Well that makes you clueless then as De GAY is far better than him and so is Cech.


You want us to sign a rag? You?


Didn't hear you complain when we bought Tevez , so what would be the issue with De Gay (Not that it will ever happen)/
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Re: Hart

Postby dazby » Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:09 pm

Firstly, I never took to Tevez because of his rag past.

Secondly, de Gea makes some spectacular saves but his distribution is just as shit as Joes.

Joe gives me confidence, de gea does not. I like that Joe is English. As an English club it makes sense to have English players in the side.
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Re: Hart

Postby Herb » Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:12 pm

PeterParker wrote:My view on Hart is that he reached his maximum level, from this point on, he can't get better and we have two options, we either sell him or keep him like he is now. He will make some great games, but then will be the reason we fail to win points.

Last season we won the league in spite of him. As harsh as this sounds, this is the case. He cost us a lot of points the past two seasons and will continue to do the same.

If we need a example of how a keeper must grow, we need to take a look at De Gea.


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Re: Hart

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:21 pm

dazby wrote:Firstly, I never took to Tevez because of his rag past.

Secondly, de Gea makes some spectacular saves but his distribution is just as shit as Joes.

Joe gives me confidence, de gea does not. I like that Joe is English. As an English club it makes sense to have English players in the side.


Why would you ever want to feel confidence in Degay?
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Re: Hart

Postby Bluez » Sun Nov 30, 2014 9:10 pm

shortagain wrote:All the comments are interesting & just goes to show how many ways people view things.

I think Joe Hart is a good keeper & would be difficult to improve on, but why can't he improve on some of the problems himself. Distribution is the most obvious and seems to be a no brainer to me, yet at 27 with loads of experience he doesn't seem to be able to remedy that flaw in his game.

Perhaps it the coaches responsibility!

This for me is the biggest issue. All keepers make mistakes and Joe is no different. What i really don't understand is how often he gets the ball and just hoofs it forward, giving it back to the opposition and increasing the pressure on the team. This is so easy to solve, it is criminal that it keeps happening. Just ban him from kicking past the halfway line. It rarely reaches a blue shirt so we won't be missing much
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Re: Hart

Postby Renato_CTID » Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:23 pm

His new look is so brilliant, I like very much Joe with mustaches!
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Re: Hart

Postby zuricity » Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:30 pm

Joe needs to spend a couple of training sessions per week, perhaps not with the normal squad, some junior team not in goals, but playing football, only allowed to pass the ball.
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Re: Hart

Postby dazby » Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:50 am

Good game Joey.
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Re: Hart

Postby Tokyo Blue » Mon Dec 01, 2014 4:57 am

dazby wrote:Good game Joey.

Yes. I was very critical of him on Wednesday, indeed I would have played Caballero, but he did what he had to do reasonably well today.

I would however still like to see him catch the ball more often.
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Re: Hart

Postby dazby » Mon Dec 01, 2014 6:01 am

He's obviously being coached that if there's any traffic, then punch.
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Re: Hart

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:25 am

He was stuck to his line when he should have taken command and it should have been a goal , fucking idiocy !!
Also , 99% of his hoofs up field went to a Southampton player or just went out !!!!its fuckign abysmal.

He is a good keeper , just NOT good enough for Man City's number one spot.
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Re: Hart

Postby Wooders » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:50 am

Agree with you completely Carl - distribution is his downfall and it will never improve
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Re: Hart

Postby Original Dub » Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:17 am

Wooders wrote:Agree with you completely Carl - distribution is his downfall and it will never improve


I think it's only his kicking. There have been other top goalkeepers like this, but the defence is set up in such a way that kicking is rarely needed and the emphasis is on throwing the ball and breaking from there.
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Re: Hart

Postby Sister of fu » Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:17 am

I can hand on heart say that I can pass the ball better than Joe Hart. Was very poor yesterday. Also there were a couple of punches that he had time to catch. Another day we could have conceded.
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Re: Hart

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:28 am

Sister of fu wrote:I can hand on heart say that I can pass the ball better than Joe Hart. Was very poor yesterday. Also there were a couple of punches that he had time to catch. Another day we could have conceded.


I got in early at Villa away, and the difference with Willy C , just knocking a ball back to the Keeper coach is stark, he has a natural strike, very little back lift and swwet strike, Joe is a full swing and hoof in the direction..
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Re: Hart

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:28 am

Sister of fu wrote:I can hand on heart say that I can pass the ball better than Joe Hart. Was very poor yesterday. Also there were a couple of punches that he had time to catch. Another day we could have conceded.


What's your take on his general performance this season?
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