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Tokyo Blue wrote:

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:I wonder if Pellegrini might consider playing Mangala at left back for a temporary spell, because of Kolarov's injury.

It might also allow Mangala to 'find his feet' in the side, so to speak.

Or perhaps he thinks, like many here (including me), that Clichy needs games to find his form.

FA cup winners 2006 wrote:

Tokyo Blue wrote:

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:I wonder if Pellegrini might consider playing Mangala at left back for a temporary spell, because of Kolarov's injury.

It might also allow Mangala to 'find his feet' in the side, so to speak.

Or perhaps he thinks, like many here (including me), that Clichy needs games to find his form.

Clichy has been getting regular games for years, how many more do you think he needs to find his form. Although there was a slight improvement yesterday. he is one of the players who looks totally short of confidence. He never takes on a man anymore. When it is played out to the wing he either plays a short 4-5 yard pass or just lobs the ball forward aimlessly, he runs and stops short in no mans land and ends up getting in the way and clogging up the wing.

The disappointing thing is we all know he is a better player than he is showing, he needs to take a couple of risks in a game and get ahead of the ball and cause the opposing defence a few problems, the strike yesterday was good to see and more of that is needed

Tokyo Blue wrote:

FA cup winners 2006 wrote:

Tokyo Blue wrote:

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:I wonder if Pellegrini might consider playing Mangala at left back for a temporary spell, because of Kolarov's injury.

It might also allow Mangala to 'find his feet' in the side, so to speak.

Or perhaps he thinks, like many here (including me), that Clichy needs games to find his form.

Clichy has been getting regular games for years, how many more do you think he needs to find his form. Although there was a slight improvement yesterday. he is one of the players who looks totally short of confidence. He never takes on a man anymore. When it is played out to the wing he either plays a short 4-5 yard pass or just lobs the ball forward aimlessly, he runs and stops short in no mans land and ends up getting in the way and clogging up the wing.

The disappointing thing is we all know he is a better player than he is showing, he needs to take a couple of risks in a game and get ahead of the ball and cause the opposing defence a few problems, the strike yesterday was good to see and more of that is needed

What has happened years ago is irrelevant. This is about now.

I have no idea how many games he will need to get his form back. But it is not going to happen by him not playing, that is a certainty. A show of faith will go some way towards it; by that I mean keeping him in the team. Playing a badly out-of-form, lacking-in-confidence Mangala out of position just because you fancy it is far worse than playing Clichy. So who do you play at left-back if you drop Clichy? The only other options are Sagna (no), Zabaleta (no) or an untried kid. This against Bayern Munich. Do me a favour.

blues2win wrote:I think Aguero and Jovetic were just left out as a precaution. What is clear is that having only three strikers is a clear risk. It's not clear how long Dzeko will be out but injury to either of the other two would put us in real trouble.

We won't have the strongest bench with Yaya Fernandinho Dzeko and Kolarov all out.

Ted Hughes wrote:

blues2win wrote:I think Aguero and Jovetic were just left out as a precaution. What is clear is that having only three strikers is a clear risk. It's not clear how long Dzeko will be out but injury to either of the other two would put us in real trouble.

We won't have the strongest bench with Yaya Fernandinho Dzeko and Kolarov all out.

Great thread on here a season or so back when people were explaining how it's no risk at all to have just 3 strikers. Some were taking the piss out of me for highlighting the exact risks. Quiet recently.

Think this instance is bollocks btw. Be surprrised if both aren't available & 100% fit. Expect he's just giving them a breather.

Goaters 103 wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:

blues2win wrote:I think Aguero and Jovetic were just left out as a precaution. What is clear is that having only three strikers is a clear risk. It's not clear how long Dzeko will be out but injury to either of the other two would put us in real trouble.

We won't have the strongest bench with Yaya Fernandinho Dzeko and Kolarov all out.

Great thread on here a season or so back when people were explaining how it's no risk at all to have just 3 strikers. Some were taking the piss out of me for highlighting the exact risks. Quiet recently.

Think this instance is bollocks btw. Be surprrised if both aren't available & 100% fit. Expect he's just giving them a breather.

This on all counts. Aguero and Jovetic are being wrapped in cotton wool, given they are our only 2 fit strikers. I wouldn't start with both of them on Tues anyway, though Manuel and his 4-4-2 idea probably will.

We desperately need a new forward in January as well.

Ted Hughes wrote:

Goaters 103 wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:

blues2win wrote:I think Aguero and Jovetic were just left out as a precaution. What is clear is that having only three strikers is a clear risk. It's not clear how long Dzeko will be out but injury to either of the other two would put us in real trouble.

We won't have the strongest bench with Yaya Fernandinho Dzeko and Kolarov all out.

Great thread on here a season or so back when people were explaining how it's no risk at all to have just 3 strikers. Some were taking the piss out of me for highlighting the exact risks. Quiet recently.

Think this instance is bollocks btw. Be surprrised if both aren't available & 100% fit. Expect he's just giving them a breather.

This on all counts. Aguero and Jovetic are being wrapped in cotton wool, given they are our only 2 fit strikers. I wouldn't start with both of them on Tues anyway, though Manuel and his 4-4-2 idea probably will.

We desperately need a new forward in January as well.

If we could sign a genuine world class one, or get some kind of Henrik Larsson type deal on a veteran goal machine, I'd do it.

Otherwise I'd rather we just stockpile the cash for next summer, even if we win fuck all, unless it's a real deciding factor. Sometimes it just has to be that way. See how close we are to Chelsea come Jan. If it's close, it might be worth paying the extra winter tax for a player.

Otherwise, give Cole a go. And of course we still don't know what's happening with Iheanacho yet.

Ted Hughes wrote:

Goaters 103 wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:

blues2win wrote:I think Aguero and Jovetic were just left out as a precaution. What is clear is that having only three strikers is a clear risk. It's not clear how long Dzeko will be out but injury to either of the other two would put us in real trouble.

We won't have the strongest bench with Yaya Fernandinho Dzeko and Kolarov all out.

Great thread on here a season or so back when people were explaining how it's no risk at all to have just 3 strikers. Some were taking the piss out of me for highlighting the exact risks. Quiet recently.

Think this instance is bollocks btw. Be surprrised if both aren't available & 100% fit. Expect he's just giving them a breather.

This on all counts. Aguero and Jovetic are being wrapped in cotton wool, given they are our only 2 fit strikers. I wouldn't start with both of them on Tues anyway, though Manuel and his 4-4-2 idea probably will.

We desperately need a new forward in January as well.

If we could sign a genuine world class one, or get some kind of Henrik Larsson type deal on a veteran goal machine, I'd do it.

Otherwise I'd rather we just stockpile the cash for next summer, even if we win fuck all, unless it's a real deciding factor. Sometimes it just has to be that way. See how close we are to Chelsea come Jan. If it's close, it might be worth paying the extra winter tax for a player.

Otherwise, give Cole a go. And of course we still don't know what's happening with Iheanacho yet.

lets all have a disco wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:

Goaters 103 wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:

blues2win wrote:I think Aguero and Jovetic were just left out as a precaution. What is clear is that having only three strikers is a clear risk. It's not clear how long Dzeko will be out but injury to either of the other two would put us in real trouble.

We won't have the strongest bench with Yaya Fernandinho Dzeko and Kolarov all out.

Great thread on here a season or so back when people were explaining how it's no risk at all to have just 3 strikers. Some were taking the piss out of me for highlighting the exact risks. Quiet recently.

Think this instance is bollocks btw. Be surprrised if both aren't available & 100% fit. Expect he's just giving them a breather.

This on all counts. Aguero and Jovetic are being wrapped in cotton wool, given they are our only 2 fit strikers. I wouldn't start with both of them on Tues anyway, though Manuel and his 4-4-2 idea probably will.

We desperately need a new forward in January as well.

If we could sign a genuine world class one, or get some kind of Henrik Larsson type deal on a veteran goal machine, I'd do it.

Otherwise I'd rather we just stockpile the cash for next summer, even if we win fuck all, unless it's a real deciding factor. Sometimes it just has to be that way. See how close we are to Chelsea come Jan. If it's close, it might be worth paying the extra winter tax for a player.

Otherwise, give Cole a go. And of course we still don't know what's happening with Iheanacho yet.

Isnt this kid in the EDS the 'actual' goal machine.

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/Elite-Development ... rdy-Hiwula

City and Bayern Munich fans have joined forces to protest at their shoddy treatment in the CSKA Moscow fiasco.

And two supporters groups – City’s 1894 Group and Bayern’s Club Nr. 12 – will stage a protest by turning their backs and booing or whistling through the Uefa anthem ahead of their Championship League match at the Etihad tomorrow night.

The two groups have requested a joint meeting with UEFA officials ahead of the game to express their frustration that the closure of CSKA’s stadium had a greater impact on travelling supporters.

Both Bayern and City fans had already booked flights and hotels and paid for visas before UEFA punished CSKA.

Calls from the clubs for compensation to be paid to out-of-pocket fans from CSKA’s fine have been ignored and a statement released by the 1894 Group said: “We have heard little in the way of understanding towards supporters from Uefa themselves after fans were denied access to the matches in Moscow.

“We support the call Bayern fans have made for Uefa officials to meet them and us to listen to our point of view.”

To add to Bayern and City fans’ frustrations, many CSKA fans circumvented the ban and Uefa then reduced the punishment on appeal. City fans are also annoyed at UEFA’s financial fair play rules.

“We are a club penalised for trying to better ourselves. Other clubs spend fortunes and go into debt yet the punishment is not equal,” said the statement.

Wonderwall wrote:Stuart Brennan has wrote

City and Bayern Munich fans have joined forces to protest at their shoddy treatment in the CSKA Moscow fiasco.

And two supporters groups – City’s 1894 Group and Bayern’s Club Nr. 12 – will stage a protest by turning their backs and booing or whistling through the Uefa anthem ahead of their Championship League match at the Etihad tomorrow night.

The two groups have requested a joint meeting with UEFA officials ahead of the game to express their frustration that the closure of CSKA’s stadium had a greater impact on travelling supporters.

Both Bayern and City fans had already booked flights and hotels and paid for visas before UEFA punished CSKA.

Calls from the clubs for compensation to be paid to out-of-pocket fans from CSKA’s fine have been ignored and a statement released by the 1894 Group said: “We have heard little in the way of understanding towards supporters from Uefa themselves after fans were denied access to the matches in Moscow.

“We support the call Bayern fans have made for Uefa officials to meet them and us to listen to our point of view.”

To add to Bayern and City fans’ frustrations, many CSKA fans circumvented the ban and Uefa then reduced the punishment on appeal. City fans are also annoyed at UEFA’s financial fair play rules.

“We are a club penalised for trying to better ourselves. Other clubs spend fortunes and go into debt yet the punishment is not equal,” said the statement.