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Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth
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Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:47 pmby Wonderwall
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Blue In Bolton wrote:Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Blue In Bolton wrote:How has Greg Leigh been getting on at Crewe? Surely has to be a better option nowadays.
No he most definitely is not.
Thanks for that Doug. I am just dismayed at how far Clichy has regressed in his performances for the last couple of seasons and was probably a knee jerk reaction but he is fast becoming a liability.
Angelino is certainly a future possible left back but his strength is definitely his attacking play rather than defensive. At right back I think we have an even better prospect in
Pablo Maffeo who I think is top class defensively and in recent games has been playing centre back even though he is quite a small lad.My take on Clichy is that he might be marginally better than Kolarov defensively but not enough to make him first choice.On Saturday though he was awful with an assist for their first goal with his shocking positioning and then some appalling passes to make iut a really bad game for him.
Zaba isn't the greatest defender but such a 100% player he does get away with things helped of course by his attacking play and great link ups with Silva,Milner and Yaya especially. His main weakness is his speed which did get shown up once badly on Saturday but can often be seen when he has to chase back when attacking and out of position.
Thanks for mentioning this youngster Mr. H.
I don't think it necessarily follows that, just because someone is smaller, they wouldn't be any good, at PL level, in the centre-back role.
If it's the aerial 'warfare' aspect that gives concern, I think that a lack of inches can be somewhat minimised by the timing of the jump and the 'spring' that the defender can bring to the climb (years ago, I'm thinking of Ian Ross for Liverfool).
It's harder to leap higher from a standing start but, when just defending set pieces, taller players in the side could be detailed to mark the opposition's big so-and so's in those situations.
On the plus side, a smaller player might be faster, more mobile and more agile and, in this way, bring other attributes to the defence.
It'll be interesting to watch Maffeo's progress and what position he eventually ends up playing.
Mascherano has played CB for a few years now and he is only 5' 7", so it shows it can be done
Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth
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Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:04 pmby AntMcfc
Clichy has been litter since his arrival at the club. He's been getting away with all sorts, he's torn apart by the most average of players time after time, season after season.
Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth
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Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:08 pmby Fidel Castro
Bullshit. He was brilliant in his first season and great value for money
Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth
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Sun Nov 02, 2014 4:22 pmby phips
today fully solidified the demise
Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth
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Sun Nov 02, 2014 4:26 pmby aaron bond
His best performance of the season today. He was solid in defence and nullified the threat from Di Maria. He combined well with Milner and still continued to do well when he had Dzeko/Nasri in front of him for the last 20 minutes, when he wasn't supported as well.
Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth
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Sun Nov 02, 2014 4:28 pmby carolina-blue
Clichy had a good game today ........the Lochness. Clichy has been spotted . . Ffs he is a good player .
Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth
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Sun Nov 02, 2014 4:30 pmby zuricity
Clichy was average today. He was up against Jiz, in the first half. Not much to do.
No way did he have Di Maria under control. He got lucky as the game went on. His passing got worse in the second half too. Crickey he nearly scored an
own goal.
Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth
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Sun Nov 02, 2014 4:41 pmby City64
Played very well today , great performance .
Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth
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Sun Nov 02, 2014 4:50 pmby Goaters 103
Superb today, you can make a good case for the MOTM award for him.
Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth
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Sun Nov 02, 2014 5:33 pmby nottsblue
Fair play to the lad. Had a good game today. I for one thought diMaria would roast him time and again. Kept him largely quiet for long periods and offered a good outlook in attack. Superb assist as well.
Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth
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Sun Nov 02, 2014 5:39 pmby South Stand Balti
He was my MOTM. Clichy plays better when he gets regular games. Rotation does not suit him.
Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth
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Sun Nov 02, 2014 5:59 pmby Mase
Is Kolarov OK?!
Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth
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Sun Nov 02, 2014 6:52 pmby Blue Since 76
Was concerned whichever of them was going to be at left back and the rags clearly targeted that area with Shrek pumping balls at Fellatio's head in that area whenever he could, but rarely got caught out, until the last 10 minutes when Dzeko became his cover
Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth
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Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:07 pmby Douglas Higginbottom
Mase wrote:Is Kolarov OK?!
He won't play midweek as per MP.
Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth
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Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:16 pmby sheblue
Clichy is and always has been better from a defensive perspective. Alex has a better left hoof.
Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth
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Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:46 pmby Mase
sheblue wrote:Clichy is and always has been better from a defensive perspective. Alex has a better left hoof.
He hasn't though. Before today he hasn't produced a decent defensive display since his first season with us.
Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth
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Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:47 pmby Moonchesteri
I criticised him last weekend, but today he deserves some praise. Very solid performance and good pull back for the goal. Well done Gael!
Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth
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Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:12 pmby Peter Doherty (AGAIG)
Outstanding today.
Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth
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Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:22 pmby Foreverinbluedreams
Goes to show what a bit of protection I front him can do for him positionally. Played very well.
How many times did Shrek pass to him?
Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth
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Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:24 pmby Peter Doherty (AGAIG)
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Goes to show what a bit of protection I front him can do for him positionally. Played very well.
How many times did Shrek pass to him?
Chortle. Every fucking ball was out to the right wing. But fair play to Shrek, the only man ever to go bald twice.