Demise of the "Clichy"myth

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Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth

Postby Wonderwall » Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:47 pm

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
Blue In Bolton wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
Blue In Bolton wrote:How has Greg Leigh been getting on at Crewe? Surely has to be a better option nowadays.



No he most definitely is not.


Thanks for that Doug. I am just dismayed at how far Clichy has regressed in his performances for the last couple of seasons and was probably a knee jerk reaction but he is fast becoming a liability.


Angelino is certainly a future possible left back but his strength is definitely his attacking play rather than defensive. At right back I think we have an even better prospect in Pablo Maffeo who I think is top class defensively and in recent games has been playing centre back even though he is quite a small lad.

My take on Clichy is that he might be marginally better than Kolarov defensively but not enough to make him first choice.On Saturday though he was awful with an assist for their first goal with his shocking positioning and then some appalling passes to make iut a really bad game for him.

Zaba isn't the greatest defender but such a 100% player he does get away with things helped of course by his attacking play and great link ups with Silva,Milner and Yaya especially. His main weakness is his speed which did get shown up once badly on Saturday but can often be seen when he has to chase back when attacking and out of position.


Thanks for mentioning this youngster Mr. H.

I don't think it necessarily follows that, just because someone is smaller, they wouldn't be any good, at PL level, in the centre-back role.

If it's the aerial 'warfare' aspect that gives concern, I think that a lack of inches can be somewhat minimised by the timing of the jump and the 'spring' that the defender can bring to the climb (years ago, I'm thinking of Ian Ross for Liverfool).

It's harder to leap higher from a standing start but, when just defending set pieces, taller players in the side could be detailed to mark the opposition's big so-and so's in those situations.

On the plus side, a smaller player might be faster, more mobile and more agile and, in this way, bring other attributes to the defence.

It'll be interesting to watch Maffeo's progress and what position he eventually ends up playing.


Mascherano has played CB for a few years now and he is only 5' 7", so it shows it can be done
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Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth

Postby AntMcfc » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:04 pm

Clichy has been litter since his arrival at the club. He's been getting away with all sorts, he's torn apart by the most average of players time after time, season after season.
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Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth

Postby Fidel Castro » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:08 pm

Bullshit. He was brilliant in his first season and great value for money
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Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth

Postby phips » Sun Nov 02, 2014 4:22 pm

today fully solidified the demise
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Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth

Postby aaron bond » Sun Nov 02, 2014 4:26 pm

His best performance of the season today. He was solid in defence and nullified the threat from Di Maria. He combined well with Milner and still continued to do well when he had Dzeko/Nasri in front of him for the last 20 minutes, when he wasn't supported as well.
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Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth

Postby carolina-blue » Sun Nov 02, 2014 4:28 pm

Clichy had a good game today ........the Lochness. Clichy has been spotted . . Ffs he is a good player .
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Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth

Postby zuricity » Sun Nov 02, 2014 4:30 pm

Clichy was average today. He was up against Jiz, in the first half. Not much to do.

No way did he have Di Maria under control. He got lucky as the game went on. His passing got worse in the second half too. Crickey he nearly scored an
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Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth

Postby City64 » Sun Nov 02, 2014 4:41 pm

Played very well today , great performance .
Not really here

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Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth

Postby Goaters 103 » Sun Nov 02, 2014 4:50 pm

Superb today, you can make a good case for the MOTM award for him.
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Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth

Postby nottsblue » Sun Nov 02, 2014 5:33 pm

Fair play to the lad. Had a good game today. I for one thought diMaria would roast him time and again. Kept him largely quiet for long periods and offered a good outlook in attack. Superb assist as well.
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Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth

Postby South Stand Balti » Sun Nov 02, 2014 5:39 pm

He was my MOTM. Clichy plays better when he gets regular games. Rotation does not suit him.
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Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth

Postby Mase » Sun Nov 02, 2014 5:59 pm

Is Kolarov OK?!
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Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sun Nov 02, 2014 6:52 pm

Was concerned whichever of them was going to be at left back and the rags clearly targeted that area with Shrek pumping balls at Fellatio's head in that area whenever he could, but rarely got caught out, until the last 10 minutes when Dzeko became his cover
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Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:07 pm

Mase wrote:Is Kolarov OK?!


He won't play midweek as per MP.
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Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth

Postby sheblue » Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:16 pm

Clichy is and always has been better from a defensive perspective. Alex has a better left hoof.
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Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth

Postby Mase » Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:46 pm

sheblue wrote:Clichy is and always has been better from a defensive perspective. Alex has a better left hoof.


He hasn't though. Before today he hasn't produced a decent defensive display since his first season with us.
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Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth

Postby Moonchesteri » Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:47 pm

I criticised him last weekend, but today he deserves some praise. Very solid performance and good pull back for the goal. Well done Gael!
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Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:12 pm

Outstanding today.
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Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:22 pm

Goes to show what a bit of protection I front him can do for him positionally. Played very well.

How many times did Shrek pass to him?
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Re: Demise of the "Clichy"myth

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:24 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Goes to show what a bit of protection I front him can do for him positionally. Played very well.

How many times did Shrek pass to him?

Chortle. Every fucking ball was out to the right wing. But fair play to Shrek, the only man ever to go bald twice.
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