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Reus scored a screamer last night and assisted 2 I think. He'd be my no.1 priority signing for the summer

Summer priority list

Pogba
Reus
Barkley
In that order.

Get Reus in and ship Navas out. Get Pogba in and ship Ya Ya out, get Barley in and he replaces Fat Frank. Job done.

DoomMerchant wrote:

LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:Looked pretty good tonight.

Cheers.

I feel like such a hipster dpuche but I love Klopp. Love him. Love that teams fans and their colors and their story. Love it.

If he ever leaves there its a crime. A crime.

Cheers

Looks like they're on a "fall" mate. The board has spoken. Better find another hipster team to follow, don't pick Ludogorets though, they're mine. A dufus like you would ruin their credibility.

freshie wrote:Reus scored a screamer last night and assisted 2 I think. He'd be my no.1 priority signing for the summer

scored 1 assisted 1


Just got to watch Wednesday's match. It really is mind boggling. In 3 CL games this season Dortmund have scored 9 and conceded 0 andy ave never looked troubled in any of the 3 matches. In 8 league games they've scored 10 and conceded 14 (surely Anderlecht, Arsenal, and Gala are all better than Koln and the club teams Dortmund have choked against this season). its almost like Chelsea a few years ago where they sucked in the league but won the Cl.

I think now that Reus, Hummels, and Gundogan are finally healthy the league form will start to click. it doesn't help that both of their left backs are now injured and Kagawa might be out as well (unless that was just a cramp).


that move that Gundogan put on his defender to set up Ramos for the 4th was absurd.

Goaters 103 wrote:Summer priority list

Pogba
Reus
Barkley
In that order.

Get Reus in and ship Navas out. Get Pogba in and ship Ya Ya out, get Barley in and he replaces Fat Frank. Job done.

Pogba might be a pipe dream, he's just extended his contract to 2019 at juventus.

1-0 up in munich
reus

2-1 munich
subotic on at h/to and to blame for both goals

Nigels Tackle wrote:2-1 munich
subotic on at h/to and to blame for both goals

blaming him for the 1st is a little rough. he slid in and intercepted Ribery's pass and it randomly fell to Lewandowski

Quite an interesting read from Martin Samuel regarding this subject, and one I tend to agree with.

Bayern Munich's dominance in Germany shows how greed can wreck football

Beefymcfc wrote:Quite an interesting read from Martin Samuel regarding this subject, and one I tend to agree with.

Bayern Munich's dominance in Germany shows how greed can wreck football

that was a good read - cheers for thee link beefster.

Yeah cheers.

His description of that game was accurate from the parts I saw. By the time I turned over to watch Lopez for Lille, even though Dortmund were winning, it had been actually like watching City go through Utd's ten men time & again but not quite score. It was that level of dominance. I fully expected to find that Bayern had won, the only surprise was that it was only two goals.

What they have done with Dortmund is horrible.

Beefymcfc wrote:Quite an interesting read from Martin Samuel regarding this subject, and one I tend to agree with.

Bayern Munich's dominance in Germany shows how greed can wreck football

Spot on again by Samuel who has seen through FFP & crooks like KHR from the start.

On the Bayern and the Bundesliga, Ive said the very same thing on here for the past 2 years; amidst the media circle jerkfest on the Bundesliga about how fookin great it is.

The more I researched the football politics of European football, the more I came to understand the role and power of KHR. Whilst others were raging against Platini, I realised that KHR was a driving force for and the mouthpiece of the old G14. It was he, who in the early days threatened that the G14 would " close the UeFA shop", a threat in reference to a UeFA proposed ban, should the G14 breakaway.

Throughout the rise of the power and money grab that underpinned the G14, you could plainly see KHR's fingerprints all over it.

He is the ultimate money/power grabber. initially driving the G14 onward, diminishing UeFA's power to regulate European football (the Royal Charleroi case 2005/06), establishing the European Clubs' Assoc (of which he remains the main spokesman) in such a way that it enhanced the old global clubs' interests and planning for the futureof those clubs by actively seeking a breakaway league around 2018. Platini is a naive innocent compared to this guy.

Him, Berlusconi, the rags, Arsenal imo are the people who stand to gain most from ffp & then of course that slimey Russian gangter saw a chance to gain a quick advantage for a season or two.

But from now on, the advantage to Chelsea has pretty much gone after this season, so I doubt ffp is in their interests anymore. Qatar own PSG, but have heavilly sponsored Barca, Abu Dhabi own City but have heavilly sponsored Real Madrid.

Another cartel could easily appear.

Ted Hughes wrote:Him, Berlusconi, the rags, Arsenal imo are the people who stand to gain most from ffp & then of course that slimey Russian gangter saw a chance to gain a quick advantage for a season or two.

But from now on, the advantage to Chelsea has pretty much gone after this season, so I doubt ffp is in their interests anymore. Qatar own PSG, but have heavilly sponsored Barca, Abu Dhabi own City but have heavilly sponsored Real Madrid.

Another cartel could easily appear.

My opinion Ted (and only my personal speculation) is that currently there is yet another major battle going on between the nine powerful clubs and UeFA.

If the old elite want to break in 2018, they will need the support of clubs just below them. We have recently seen that UeFA/City/PSG have met to discuss changes to the FFPRs that would adversely affect the old elite and make the CL more equitable for those 2nd tier clubs and other teams in general. I can't find much on it yet but believe that UEFA are looking to consolidate those clubs' support, and attempting to weaken the power of the elite by isolating them.

Will expand on this should you wish Mate.

john68 wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:Him, Berlusconi, the rags, Arsenal imo are the people who stand to gain most from ffp & then of course that slimey Russian gangter saw a chance to gain a quick advantage for a season or two.

But from now on, the advantage to Chelsea has pretty much gone after this season, so I doubt ffp is in their interests anymore. Qatar own PSG, but have heavilly sponsored Barca, Abu Dhabi own City but have heavilly sponsored Real Madrid.

Another cartel could easily appear.

My opinion Ted (and only my personal speculation) is that currently there is yet another major battle going on between the nine powerful clubs and UeFA.

If the old elite want to break in 2018, they will need the support of clubs just below them. We have recently seen that UeFA/City/PSG have met to discuss changes to the FFPRs that would adversely affect the old elite and make the CL more equitable for those 2nd tier clubs and other teams in general. I can't find much on it yet but believe that UEFA are looking to consolidate those clubs' support, and attempting to weaken the power of the elite by isolating them.

Will expand on this should you wish Mate.

Yeah, please do; sounds an interesting theory.

john68 wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:Him, Berlusconi, the rags, Arsenal imo are the people who stand to gain most from ffp & then of course that slimey Russian gangter saw a chance to gain a quick advantage for a season or two.

But from now on, the advantage to Chelsea has pretty much gone after this season, so I doubt ffp is in their interests anymore. Qatar own PSG, but have heavilly sponsored Barca, Abu Dhabi own City but have heavilly sponsored Real Madrid.

Another cartel could easily appear.

My opinion Ted (and only my personal speculation) is that currently there is yet another major battle going on between the nine powerful clubs and UeFA.

If the old elite want to break in 2018, they will need the support of clubs just below them. We have recently seen that UeFA/City/PSG have met to discuss changes to the FFPRs that would adversely affect the old elite and make the CL more equitable for those 2nd tier clubs and other teams in general. I can't find much on it yet but believe that UEFA are looking to consolidate those clubs' support, and attempting to weaken the power of the elite by isolating them.

Will expand on this should you wish Mate.

Hi John, the old group, which might have has some very happy campers such as Valencia, Lyon, Deportivo La Corruna, Porto, Ajax, PSV, the pub teams from Scotland who to be frank were happy to be catching the crumbs, have all become of less use to the Bayerns, Madrid Barca,
PSG and us have turned up with more than a happy to be taking part attitude and the G14 have had to accept it but not on terms that will be fair to us if they can help it. The likes of PSG would be happy to join a European league ditching Ligue 1 without blinking. Rennes fans I know do not give a toss as they hate Paris. The worst of it is Platini knows full well that is the case and French football unlike Scotland expect it and will not care to lose the biggest fish who could win the league with a 2nd string most weeks. The G14 imo have been hit by Europes financial woes as much as most industries, French, Portugal, Spain are on there backsides, the 1st teams I mention will never return unless like Valencia they get a wealthy owner and even then it will be 3rd place they will be taking, without Chumps League whats the point for the likes of Peter Lim, who might want to join us and PSG in forming a new gang. 2018 will see major changes even the current Premier league may have to have a first ever winter break Sponsors are gonna love that. City might just be the team with a hub in NY to bring a global league one day. Lets be honest the club owners in Europe do not give a toss for W.Cups if they are being honest.

First; Apologies to Ted for not yet expanding on my speculation. Out of respect to my old Pal Beefers and his original topic, I will do so in a new thread as soon as I get chance.

Hazy, I agree with just about all of that mate and thanks for adding a bit of detail about the French. Ta Pal.