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Postby Chinners » Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:31 am

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Manchester City morning news: Owners expect silverware in Europe in this timeframe
Manuel Pellegrini has reportedly been ordered to reach the last eight of the Champions League with Manchester City.
City have struggled in Europe since the qualified for the competition, but the owners appear to be demanding progress.
The Telegraph suggests the owners feel it could take the club another five-years to win the tournament.
Manchester City captain Vincent Kompany has leapt to the defence of midfielder Yaya Toure.
Toure has received plenty of criticism for his recent performances as his form at the Etihad has dipped.
“He's done so much for this club, he's always played brilliantly. I'm not sure I completely agree with your opinions. For me he is always an important player, when he does well the team does well,” said the Belgian.
Manchester City midfielder Fernandinho says the side have to change in Europe.
City were held to a 1-1 draw against Roma earlier this week after losing their first Champions League game at Bayern Munich.
“We play against big teams from other countries who have a lot of technical players, and our team have to learn to play a different way,” said the Brazilian.

Vieira: Pozo has shown Man City's youngsters the way
Blues EDS boss believe Jose Angel Pozo's successful first-team debut has provided a boost for all of the club's young players.
Patrick Vieira believes Jose Angel Pozo has opened the first-team door for Manchester City’s youngsters.
The 19-year-old marked his first team debut in style last week when he came off the bench to net against Sheffield Wednesday.
And while he failed to get game time against Hull, Manuel Pellegrini did include him on the bench for the Premier League game.
It suggests the player City snapped up from Real Madrid in 2012 is a firm part of the club’s future, leaving Vieira delighted.
The French coach has overseen Pozo’s development over the last few years, and says the youngster’s success has shown the rest of the Elite Development Squad (EDS) that the path to the first team can be straightforward.
“We are working on our objective to send so many players to the first team,” Vieira said.
“How much he will spend with the first team will be better for him, but also it will be better for the Under-21 players.
“When he is going with the first team he is doing well for himself, but he is doing well for the players as well.
“Pozo is doing well - he has opened the doors for the players to show what they can do.
“I would want him to stay with the first team if Manuel will keep him.”
The Spanish starlet is not the first to progress through the junior setup.
Marcos Lopes, 18, played a handful of cup matches last season and made the bench a further half dozen times.
In addition, Bruno Zuculini (21) and Kelechi Iheanacho (17) both caught the eye on the summer tour while there are long-term hopes for Jason Denayer and Karim Rekik (both 19).
All but one of that quintet are on loan for the season around the continent, picking up experience of domestic and European competitions that they can bring back to City.
Whether Pozo will leave the Etihad in similar fashion to hone his skills remains unclear, but City will surely welcome some young vigour into their first-team squad.
A recent study found that the Blues possess the oldest average age of any Premier League club, their figure of 28 bearing three years more experience than the groups of Newcastle and Liverpool.
With the first team including regulars Yaya Toure (31), Martin Demichelis (33), Vincent Kompany (28), Pablo Zabaleta (29), Fernandinho (29) and Edin Dzeko (28), it is hard to disagree with Gary Neville’s verdict that time is running out for this particular City side to claim the European glory that has so far eluded them.
Ross Barkley is already being looked at as a potential successor to Toure, yet with FFP showing no signs of changing there is a need for more emphasis on talent coming up through the ranks.
The good news for City is that signs from the EDS and below are promising.
The U21s were a shootout away from reaching the finale of the league competition last season while the U19s have maximum points from their UEFA Youth League group this season.
More important than results, the likes of Seko Fofana and Angelino have shown a level of performance that suggests they could push through the door Vieira believes has opened before the season is out.
As for Pozo, he may have spent the last week in the spotlight with the first team but he was back at Hyde on Tuesday playing in front of 962 people for the U19s.
Vieira laughed off suggestion he will try to keep him in the youth sides, but says the youngster’s willingness to continue getting games where he can underlines his positive attitude.
“Of course [it was nice to see him impress for the first team] but when he has come in from the first team to the U19, the U21s, what I like about Pozo is a love for the game and working hard, like everybody else,” he said.
“I think he made people understand that he just wants to play football and the team was around him giving him the ball, he can hold the ball, he was fantastic.”

Paul Scholes and Rio Ferdinand's cheap dig at the Etihad doesn't tell the full story of Manchester City's desire
Rio Ferdinand boarded the bandwagon Paul Scholes had set rolling, after tuning in to hear his old team-mate talking about the empty seats at the Etihad for another fitful Manchester City home performance in the Champions League.
“Fans would rather watch Ramsay’s Kitchen,” Ferdinand tweeted. And in reference to City’s planned ground expansion: “Expanding the stadium for what though?? For who though??”
A crowd 10,000 short of capacity for City’s opening Champions League home game against Roma on Tuesday night created the conditions for United’s old guard to display disdain for the place Sir Alex Ferguson always called the “Temple of Doom”.
Yet Scholes’s inference that European nights have always been different at Old Trafford does not stand up to scrutiny. In the early 1990s, when United had finally taken the title, they were getting crowds of less than 40,000 through for Champions League games: 39,000 for Galatasaray’s arrival in 1993 and 35,000 for Honved. It took time for Europe to catch on.
Domestic competition – the task of dethroning Arsenal and setting about a challenge to Liverpool’s back catalogue of titles – was all that mattered at Old Trafford back then, just as toppling United is City’s obsession now.
Reigning domestic champions City might be, but they know that winning two titles by a hair’s breadth does not make them the dominant force in English football. That’s their supporters’ overriding ambition. This is a team who were playing Wrexham and Macclesfield 16 years ago. No wonder the domestic game still hold so much fascination for the fans. It’s why Reading last year had far more pulling power than Roma this week.
The numbers deconstruct Ferdinand’s cheap shot on Twitter. City command the third highest crowds in the Premier League. They filled the Etihad for all-but one of last season’s home league matches and have a waiting list of 7,500 for the 6,000 extra seats in their new stand, which will take capacity to 55,000. Everyone on the waiting list has paid a £100 deposit.
The social demographic of City’s fans contributed to the number of empty seats, too. It is a relatively poor one, compared with Manchester United and Liverpool. Neither have City followed United and Arsenal down the route of making it compulsory for season-ticket holders to buy European tickets, which would have guaranteed 36,000 sales alone for Roma. Arsenal’s season-ticket price includes the first seven FA Cup or Champions League games. City have no such scheme.
The club’s relationship with Europe is fixed a few years ahead, too. City are targeting a quarter-final appearance in this season’s competition and accept that it could take five years to win it.
No one is implying a need for reinforcements. The club have equipped themselves with a squad which they believe is strong enough to lift the trophy in Rome next June. But there is an acceptance at the top of the business that the potential for luck and freak events in one-off, knock-out stage games mean that a consistent run of semi-final appearances – perhaps three or four of them – is required, for the club to go one step further and win it.
City chief executive Ferran Soriano is acutely aware of this from his time at the helm of Barcelona. The Catalonian side reached the round of 16 twice, the semi-finals once and were victorious finalists once in his five years at the club. The winning year was 2006, when Arsenal’s Jens Lehmann was dismissed after 18 minutes at the Stade de France. Yes, Soriano will tell you that luck cuts both ways in Europe but is always a factor. Manuel Pellegrini during the game against Roma
Manager Manuel Pellegrini, whose side reached the last 16 in 2013-14, acknowledged the quarter-final target for this season. “If we can fight for the Premier League title and get further in the Champions League, that would be progress,” he said this week, in an interview which also underlined City’s absorption with domestic football. “We won’t focus all we have on the Champions League and see what happens in the Premier League,” he added.
City have endeavoured to manufacture some Etihad atmosphere for Europe in the past, dimming the lights before kick-off, projecting a lunar image across the East Stand and bathing the place in pale light before such games as the Europa League quarter-final against Hamburg in 2009. It was their first year back in continental football and though Mark Hughes’s team lost on aggregate, Scholes would have nothing to be critical about. But the club know that the value of generating an atmosphere would be lost if they tried it every time.
Better performances would help. Tuesday’s was dismal and Vincent Kompany, the captain, acknowledged amid the disappointment of the 1-1 draw that City must now win home and away against CSKA Moscow. “We have to win both of those games. It’s safe to say that,” he observed. City will know tomorrow whether the game in the Russian capital must be played behind closed doors, as a Uefa punishment for the CSKA fans’ violence in Rome.
The group mathematics suggest it could go the way of 2011-12, when City also took a point from their opening two matches, rallied to a 10-point total but were eliminated at the group stage. Where City and Europe are concerned, it’s always more complicated than 140 characters can convey.

Paul Scholes and Rio Ferdinand are a 'disgrace' over empty Etihad comments, slam Manchester City fans
The former Manchester United pair criticised City's failure to fill the stadium for Tuesday night's clash with Roma but angry fans have hit back
Manchester City fans have hit back at criticism over the lack of atmosphere at the Etihad.
Manuel Pellegrini's men played out an unconvincing 1-1 draw with Roma on Tuesday night in front of 37,509 fans - around 10,000 short of the ground's capacity.
Ex-United midfielder Paul Scholes, who was part of ITV's coverage for the clash, picked up on the empty seats and claimed City fans "did not know how lucky they were" to be in the Champions League.
His former colleague Rio Ferdinand also took to Twitter to have his say but a number of City supporters feel these were cheap shots from the Old Trafford favourites.
Andy Savage who runs MCFC Forum said: "Rio is living in his own bubble there. Some people are living hand to mouth and don't know where the next penny is coming from, and he's criticising them for not filling the stadium when the tickets are £35-plus.
"He was an absolute disgrace on Twitter, as was Scholes on ITV. They are multi-millionaires. They don't give the man on the street a second thought, how much it is costing people.
"The cost of living is going up, so many people are out of work. Football is not everyone's priority, like it used to be.
"People just can't afford, over the course of the month, to pay for tickets three, four or five times.
"I took Ferdinand to task, and not because he is an ex-United player. He's got an autobiography coming out. I'm sure he's not giving that away. I'm sure he's not joined QPR for the love it. He'll be getting a substantial salary."
Producer of fans podcast Blue Moon, David Mooney added: "It strikes me as a crass thing for people who have got plenty of millions in the bank to be able to do whatever they like to be dictating to other people what they should be doing."

Zing! Roma turn the tables on Man City on Twitter
The Italian giants have continued their jokey feud with the Blues' Twitter account after coming away with a 1-1 draw from Tuesday's Champions League game
It seems that AS Roma and Manchester City have a bit of a thing going on when it comes to Twitter.
Now, in another hilarious twist to the online rivalry, Roma have mimicked City's original tweet, letting Manuel Pellegrini's men know about their record in Italy.
The tweet read: "Thanks for the hospitality last night @mcfc . Looking forward to seeing you in Rome. You've never won a European game in Italy, have you?"
The Sky Blue's Twitter account had tweeted before the Champions League clash that talismanic Roma striker Franceso Totti had failed to score in England before, but Totti subsequently ended that record.
Goal scoring hero Totti admitted after the game that the tweet inspired him to score, saying it brought him luck.
City drew 1-1 after the Italian scored a first half leveller, cancelling out Sergio Aguero's penalty.

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Arsenal lead the race to sign 27-year-old Uruguay striker Edinson Cavani, who is unhappy at Paris St-Germain. (Daily Star)

The Gunners could also move for Newcastle midfielder Cheick Tiote, 28, who says he wants to leave St James' Park. (Independent)

Manchester United have been handed a significant boost in their efforts to sign Roma midfielder Kevin Strootman, 24, after the Italian club's manager Rudi Garcia admitted he could not stop the Dutchman leaving. (Daily Express)

Arsenal are set to compete with Chelsea for the signature of West Ham defender Reece Oxford, 15. (Daily Express)

Manchester United winger Nani, 27, says he may make his loan switch to Sporting Lisbon permanent at the end of the season. (Independent)

Stoke chairman Peter Coates is in no rush to make Chelsea winger Victor Moses's loan move permanent, despite the 23-year-old's impressive start. (Stoke Sentinel)

Barcelona are confident Argentina forward Lionel Messi will stay, despite reports linking the 27-year-old with Chelsea and PSG. (Sky Sports)

Liverpool are prepared to offer £22m plus midfielder Lucas Leiva, 27, as they bid to sign Napoli striker Gonzalo Higuain, 26. (Caught Offside)

Liverpool's 25-year-old striker Daniel Sturridge is close to signing a new five-year contract that could take his earnings up to £150,000 per week. (Times)

Chelsea striker Diego Costa, 25, intends to play in Spain's Euro 2016 qualifiers against Slovakia and Luxembourg next week, despite club manager Jose Mourinho wanting him to rest his sore hamstring. (Sun )

Chelsea defender John Terry, 33, says he was reduced to tears by Chelsea's failure to win the Premier League last season. (Independent)

Manchester United defender Phil Jones, 22, could play in Sunday's match against Everton after recovering from a hamstring injury suffered in England's Euro 2016 qualifier in Switzerland. (Daily Mirror)

Former Spartak Moscow Aiden McGeady, 28, has encouraged more British and Irish players to play abroad, as he returned to Russia for Everton's Europa League tie against Krasnodar. (Daily Express)

Meanwhile, Blues team-mate Kevin Mirallas, 26, is facing a lengthy spell on the sidelines because of a hamstring injury. (Daily Telegraph)

Tottenham boss Mauricio Pochettino admits he has no idea when England full-back Kyle Walker, 24, will return from an abdominal problem. (Daily Mirror)

Arsenal full-back Kieran Gibbs, 25, could return to the England set-up after a four-year absence. (Times - subscription required)

Milner's team-mate and fellow midfielder Fernandinho, 29, both concede progressing from the group stage will be "difficult" for Manuel Pellegrini's side. (Manchester Evening News)

The chairman of anti-racism organisation Kick It Out has described 35-year-old QPR defender Rio Ferdinand's autobiography as a "book of trivia". (Guardian)

Ferdinand also says he is happy to talk to David Moyes, despite describing the former Manchester United manager as "embarrassing" in his book. (Daily Star)

Former West Ham and Watford boss Gianfranco Zola, 48, has emerged as a leading contender for the vacant manager's role at Fulham. (Sky Sports understands)

Former Arsenal midfielder Ray Parlour, 41, doubts the Gunners will ever win the Champions League under Arsene Wenger. (TalkSHIT)

Midfielder Stephen Quinn, 28, is set to stay at Hull City, but 26-year-old striker Yannick Sagbo has been challenged to prove his worth following his loan move to Wolves. (Hull Daily Mail)

Swansea City chairman Huw Jenkins says reports linking the club with a foreign takeover are wide of the mark. (Wales Online)

Manchester United are set to raid Southampton again - this time for club physio Matt Radcliffe. (DSSC)

World Cup winner and former Argentina boss Diego Maradona is set to become the new coach of Palestine.

Roma continued their light-hearted Twitter exchange with Manchester City with a post mocking their poor record in Italy ahead of the two sides' meeting in Rome.

Stoke City midfielder Steve Sidwell, 31, paid a visit to former club Fulham, tweeting his delight as the Cottagers beat Bolton 4-0.

Hannover players have been told they cannot attend the Oktoberfest beer festival - even if they beat Bayern Munich on Saturday. (Sun - subscription required)

West Bromwich Albion defender Craig Dawson, 24, was persuaded not to give up professional football by comedian Bernard Manning's son. (Express and Star)


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Postby Hutch's Shoulder » Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:24 am

Is Terry after a move to Scouseland with all these tears?
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Postby DoomMerchant » Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:46 am

Why when i call bullshit on the "girls" who are trantastic does everyone get their hetero knives out?

And i don't care if Luke Shaw wants a tranny threesome. I've probably done stuff he might find repulsive as well, allegedly.

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Postby Chinners » Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:53 am

DoomMerchant wrote:Why when i call bullshit on the "girls" who are trantastic does everyone get their hetero knives out?

And i don't care if Luke Shaw wants a tranny threesome. I've probably done stuff he might find repulsive as well, allegedly.

cheers


No hetero knives out here fella
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Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:58 am

DoomMerchant wrote:Why when i call bullshit on the "girls" who are trantastic does everyone get their hetero knives out?

And i don't care if Luke Shaw wants a tranny threesome. I've probably done stuff he might find repulsive as well, allegedly.

cheers


??????

Apologies for being obtuse, Doomie, but I think in the Atlantic Cyberdistance your post had to travel to reach European shores, something got lost in transmission.

Could you please interpret ??
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Postby Chinners » Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:01 am

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:Why when i call bullshit on the "girls" who are trantastic does everyone get their hetero knives out?

And i don't care if Luke Shaw wants a tranny threesome. I've probably done stuff he might find repulsive as well, allegedly.

cheers


??????

Apologies for being obtuse, Doomie, but I think in the Atlantic Cyberdistance your post had to travel to reach European shores, something got lost in transmission.

Could you please interpret ??


Basically he wants a foursome with Luke Shaw, 2 tranny's and a few sharp knives .... kinky
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Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:05 am

Chinners wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:Why when i call bullshit on the "girls" who are trantastic does everyone get their hetero knives out?

And i don't care if Luke Shaw wants a tranny threesome. I've probably done stuff he might find repulsive as well, allegedly.

cheers


??????

Apologies for being obtuse, Doomie, but I think in the Atlantic Cyberdistance your post had to travel to reach European shores, something got lost in transmission.

Could you please interpret ??


Basically he wants a foursome with Luke Shaw, 2 tranny's and a few sharp knives .... kinky


Thanks for the clarification Chinners.

However, on that basis, perhaps Doomie's post ought to have been in the Off-Topic section; not that such thoughts are off topic with him for very long.
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Postby Wonderwall » Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:37 am

Chinners wrote:
Chelsea striker Diego Costa, 25, intends to play in Spain's Euro 2016 qualifiers against Slovakia and Luxembourg next week, despite club manager Jose Mourinho wanting him to rest his sore hamstring. (Sun )


So 2 weeks ago, Quoté Mourinho says that Costa cannot play two games in a week. This week he played him twice? I really hope Costa doesnt have to pull out of Spains squad with a problem with his hamstring but we can all see it happening. He will start him at the weekend and sub him claiming he needs to rest it. I hope the fucker goes TWANG and he is out for a couple of months
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Postby DoomMerchant » Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:59 am

Wonderwall wrote:
Chinners wrote:
Chelsea striker Diego Costa, 25, intends to play in Spain's Euro 2016 qualifiers against Slovakia and Luxembourg next week, despite club manager Jose Mourinho wanting him to rest his sore hamstring. (Sun )


So 2 weeks ago, Quoté Mourinho says that Costa cannot play two games in a week. This week he played him twice? I really hope Costa doesnt have to pull out of Spains squad with a problem with his hamstring but we can all see it happening. He will start him at the weekend and sub him claiming he needs to rest it. I hope the fucker goes TWANG and he is out for a couple of months


I never want to see a player injured.

Dead? Well that could be a whole different story depending on who you're talking about. <smiley face>
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Postby patrickblue » Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:47 pm

Just when I decide that maybe Scholes isn't a complete cunt, he proves that he is.
However, I've never had that slightest doubt about camelgob's complete cuntishness.
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Postby gillie » Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:14 am

patrickblue wrote:Just when I decide that maybe Scholes isn't a complete cunt, he proves that he is.
However, I've never had that slightest doubt about camelgob's complete cuntishness.

Being a cunt is a pre-requisite of joining the rags is'nt it?
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Postby Cit.revenge » Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:25 am

Yesterday I read how we were crucified in the Daily Mail for 1-1 with AS Roma, as we lost the match 4 0 from MK Dons .I agree the City has not totally aware of the competition in some way as well as fans and I will always agree Etihad atmosphere is terrible, really is, as guests we make a better atmosphere. The reasons for all this in the CL because frankly we have not done a result yet, a coincidence really amazing drawing hard group's and when we get an easier. waiting for us is Barcelona. But as the author poured all the frustration on some players was incredible, really bothers me that Silva was not celebrated in England just because he play for City , if he play for Rags would be a star of stars, Dzeko was criticized in the article as it played the worst 53 minutes ever. Yaya was made in complete shit. Complete club spat on the 1 1 at home with a respectable team. Shame, I wish that author mention that four years three times we were in a group of death and some are get Basel and lost. Shame of Article
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Postby Scatman » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:05 am

Cit.revenge wrote:Yesterday I read how we were crucified in the Daily Mail for 1-1 with AS Roma, as we lost the match 4 0 from MK Dons .I agree the City has not totally aware of the competition in some way as well as fans and I will always agree Etihad atmosphere is terrible, really is, as guests we make a better atmosphere. The reasons for all this in the CL because frankly we have not done a result yet, a coincidence really amazing drawing hard group's and when we get an easier. waiting for us is Barcelona. But as the author poured all the frustration on some players was incredible, really bothers me that Silva was not celebrated in England just because he play for City , if he play for Rags would be a star of stars, Dzeko was criticized in the article as it played the worst 53 minutes ever. Yaya was made in complete shit. Complete club spat on the 1 1 at home with a respectable team. Shame, I wish that author mention that four years three times we were in a group of death and some are get Basel and lost. Shame of Article


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