Should Maicon Have Seen Red?

[Beefymcfc]

A simple Poll asking a simple question. The laws state that he should have gone because he stopped a goal scoring opportunity (forget the 'Last Man' thing) but why was he allowed to continue, nearly scoring an equaliser a few minutes later?

[Wonderwall]

Not seen any reaction yet on here or tv. Still heading home but i counted 5 penalties tonight. Ref was shit. Maicon should have gone and pellegrini got it massively wrong.

Milner needs to be knocking on hus door tomorrow.

[Blue Since 76]

Listening to the ex-Chelsea player and plastic rag on TalkSport they said it wasn't a red, as to be a goal scoring opportunity, the law states you have to have the ball under control. As it hadn't reached Aguero, it therefore isn't a red. In that case, it isn't, but the rule isn't quite right if it allows a player to stop a tap in by stopping the player reaching the ball.

That said, I couldn't really see the incident from the opposite end of the ground, so I'm not totally sure what happened

[sheblue]

To be fair I don't think it was a sending off.

[Moonchesteri]

Calm down, use common sense and you'll see it should not have been a red.

The hand ball on the other hand??

[Wonderwall]

Calm down, use common sense and you'll see it should not have been a red.

The hand ball on the other hand??

Just saw a replay. He clearly denied a goal scoring opportunity. Its a RED CARD all day long.

I am calm too and have common sense

[Moonchesteri]

Calm down, use common sense and you'll see it should not have been a red.

The hand ball on the other hand??

Just saw a replay. He clearly denied a goal scoring opportunity. Its a RED CARD all day long.

I am calm too and have common sense

Ah well. We will have to disagree then.
I think my point at least partly comes from the opinion that the rule book is not ideal in this kind of situations. Often the penalty & red is too harsh which just kills games. and I felt this was one of them cases

[Wonderwall]

Just catching up with what the "expert pundits" made of it. OMG what the fuck is that ginger twat scholes doing at our ground the fucking slitherin wanker. I wish it was in 3D as i would have twatted the fucker out of sight.

[Wonderwall]

Just catching up with what the "expert pundits" made of it. OMG what the fuck is that ginger twat scholes doing at our ground the fucking slitherin wanker. I wish it was in 3D as i would have twatted the fucker out of sight.

He has just said totti has been around for 15 years and its like we have never seen him. We havent done our homework apparently.

Well mr scholes with all the fucking answers. You were on the coaching staff for 6 months at the swamp and look what happened. Wanker

[Beefymcfc]

Listening to the ex-Chelsea player and plastic rag on TalkSport they said it wasn't a red, as to be a goal scoring opportunity, the law states you have to have the ball under control. As it hadn't reached Aguero, it therefore isn't a red. In that case, it isn't, but the rule isn't quite right if it allows a player to stop a tap in by stopping the player reaching the ball.

That said, I couldn't really see the incident from the opposite end of the ground, so I'm not totally sure what happened

I'd like to see that regulation as from what I remember there is no referral to having the ball under control and just the act of 'Stopping a goal scoring opportunity'.

Seems we listen to these so called experts believing in everything they say and then using an incorrect ruling to back-up a point.

In other words, it's bollocks.

Aguero was denied a clear goal scoring opportunity by Maicon. The rule states that he should've been sent off but the ref chose otherwise, just like the ref did when Vidic pulled down the Villa player in the Cup Final. He should've gone then as Maicon should've gone last night yet the ref decided otherwise, how can this be the case?

[Blue Since 76]

Listening to the ex-Chelsea player and plastic rag on TalkSport they said it wasn't a red, as to be a goal scoring opportunity, the law states you have to have the ball under control. As it hadn't reached Aguero, it therefore isn't a red. In that case, it isn't, but the rule isn't quite right if it allows a player to stop a tap in by stopping the player reaching the ball.

That said, I couldn't really see the incident from the opposite end of the ground, so I'm not totally sure what happened

I'd like to see that regulation as from what I remember there is no referral to having the ball under control and just the act of 'Stopping a goal scoring opportunity'.

Seems we listen to these so called experts believing in everything they say and then using an incorrect ruling to back-up a point.

In other words, it's bollocks.

Aguero was denied a clear goal scoring opportunity by Maicon. The rule states that he should've been sent off but the ref chose otherwise, just like the ref did when Vidic pulled down the Villa player in the Cup Final. He should've gone then as Maicon should've gone last night yet the ref decided otherwise, how can this be the case?

They were arguing down a City fan, saying that it's what the rules say. As professional journalists, I assume they had the rule book in front of them to refer to and weren't just saying whatever came into their head

[Foreverinbluedreams]

How can it be a 'clear goalscoring opportunity' when he doesn't have the ball?

[Wonderwall]

How can it be a 'clear goalscoring opportunity' when he doesn't have the ball?

OK so a long ball is played through and the offside trap is broken on the halfway line, the striker is running towards the ball with just the keeper in front of him. He hasnt reached the ball yet but he is a clear favourite for it to go 1 v 1 on the keeper, however the defender knows he wont reach the ball so he decides to take out the striker from behind about 20 yds from goal? Red or not?

[Mikhail Chigorin]

It should have been an instantaneous red card without any debate whatsoever.

Aguero was 'prevented' from getting to the ball and having a shot in the crudest way possible.

We all know what the outcome would have been if a City player had committed such a foul at the other end.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

How can it be a 'clear goalscoring opportunity' when he doesn't have the ball?

OK so a long ball is played through and the offside trap is broken on the halfway line, the striker is running towards the ball with just the keeper in front of him. He hasnt reached the ball yet but he is a clear favourite for it to go 1 v 1 on the keeper, however the defender knows he wont reach the ball so he decides to take out the striker from behind about 20 yds from goal? Red or not?

That's a totally different scenario. How is the ref supposed to judge that Aguero will get there before anyone else in that instance last night? He may have been favourite to get there but that wasn't clearly obvious.

[Bianchi on Ice]

It should have been an instantaneous red card without any debate whatsoever.

Aguero was 'prevented' from getting to the ball and having a shot in the crudest way possible.

We all know what the outcome would have been if a City player had committed such a foul at the other end.

Yes, and although some may say it shouldnt have been red had it happened to us my first thought would have been "you silly fucker why do that??" to whichever player committed the foul..
...sadly, I wasnt surprised the referee conveniently applied his own interpretation to a rule that although I dont agree with, its there for all to see..."denying a clear goalscoring opportunity"
I'm getting fed up with the blatant bentness.

[Wonderwall]

How can it be a 'clear goalscoring opportunity' when he doesn't have the ball?

OK so a long ball is played through and the offside trap is broken on the halfway line, the striker is running towards the ball with just the keeper in front of him. He hasnt reached the ball yet but he is a clear favourite for it to go 1 v 1 on the keeper, however the defender knows he wont reach the ball so he decides to take out the striker from behind about 20 yds from goal? Red or not?

That's a totally different scenario. How is the ref supposed to judge that Aguero will get there before anyone else in that instance last night? He may have been favourite to get there but that wasn't clearly obvious.

thats poppycock and you know it. The ref was perfectly place to that Aguero was being fouled, why foul him if he was not favourite to get the ball?

[Foreverinbluedreams]

How can it be a 'clear goalscoring opportunity' when he doesn't have the ball?

OK so a long ball is played through and the offside trap is broken on the halfway line, the striker is running towards the ball with just the keeper in front of him. He hasnt reached the ball yet but he is a clear favourite for it to go 1 v 1 on the keeper, however the defender knows he wont reach the ball so he decides to take out the striker from behind about 20 yds from goal? Red or not?

That's a totally different scenario. How is the ref supposed to judge that Aguero will get there before anyone else in that instance last night? He may have been favourite to get there but that wasn't clearly obvious.

thats poppycock and you know it. The ref was perfectly place to that Aguero was being fouled, why foul him if he was not favourite to get the ball?

Bollox, there is no guarantee Aguero's getting there even if Maicon doesn't pull him back. The ref has a split second to determine whether Aguero is definitely going to reach that ball, perfectly understandable that he didn't deem it to be a clear goalscoring opportunity.

[Wonderwall]

How can it be a 'clear goalscoring opportunity' when he doesn't have the ball?

OK so a long ball is played through and the offside trap is broken on the halfway line, the striker is running towards the ball with just the keeper in front of him. He hasnt reached the ball yet but he is a clear favourite for it to go 1 v 1 on the keeper, however the defender knows he wont reach the ball so he decides to take out the striker from behind about 20 yds from goal? Red or not?

That's a totally different scenario. How is the ref supposed to judge that Aguero will get there before anyone else in that instance last night? He may have been favourite to get there but that wasn't clearly obvious.

thats poppycock and you know it. The ref was perfectly place to that Aguero was being fouled, why foul him if he was not favourite to get the ball?

Bollox, there is no guarantee Aguero's getting there even if Maicon doesn't pull him back. The ref has a split second to determine whether Aguero is definitely going to reach that ball, perfectly understandable that he didn't deem it to be a clear goalscoring opportunity.

I really dont understand your argument for a yellow. Aguero is favourite to reach the pass, he is the closest opposition player to goal, the only defender that can possibly defend against the threat, decides to foul Aguero intentionally. Its a red card all day long

[MilnersJaw]

Just catching up with what the "expert pundits" made of it. OMG what the fuck is that ginger twat scholes doing at our ground the fucking slitherin wanker. I wish it was in 3D as i would have twatted the fucker out of sight.

he did nothing but slag city off. from the ground not feeling like a champions league night to moaning about the atmosphere. bitter cunt trying to stay relevant.