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If Roma played the same formation as us, with DeRossi & whoever, we would have them for breakfast, (or should I say, our Premier League team would have them for breakfast, as the Champions League side would struggle vs Rangers or Bate Borisov).

We had all this shit when we played Napoli 'oh what a great side they are, let's sign all their players' then Chelsea rolled them over without getting out of 1st gear.

We are SHIT in Europe. Not only in the Champions League, but in the Europa too. We are SHIT.

Not Yaya, fucking City. City are SHIT in Europe. It's not down to one player, it's down to the whole team & the manager (s), the formation, the attitude, everything.

How much better was Vincent Kompamy's performance last night than Yaya's ? Answer: it wasn't: he was SHIT. He wasn't good enough to play in our Premier League team, neither was Demichelis. They were both SHIT. Dzeko was the only player who would have been deserving of a place in our Premier League team & the manager took him off, because the manager was SHIT. Mancini was SHIT.

If Yaya had been playing for Roma, he would be taking the fucking piss like Maicon & Gervinho. We've seen Maicon for City, he is SHIT. We've seen Gervinho, he is SHIT.

The reason they were giving us problems & a 38 year old scored the kind of goal usually only scored by a younger quicker player, is because we are SHIT in Europe.

We would never concede that goal to that player in the Premier League. Never.

Ted Hughes wrote:If Roma played the same formation as us, with DeRossi & whoever, we would have them for breakfast, (or should I say, our Premier League team would have them for breakfast, as the Champions League side would struggle vs Rangers or Bate Borisov).

We had all this shit when we played Napoli 'oh what a great side they are, let's sign all their players' then Chelsea rolled them over without getting out of 1st gear.

We are SHIT in Europe. Not only in the Champions League, but in the Europa too. We are SHIT.

Not Yaya, fucking City. City are SHIT in Europe. It's not down to one player, it's down to the whole team & the manager (s), the formation, the attitude, everything.

How much better was Vincent Kompamy's performance last night than Yaya's ? Answer: it wasn't: he was SHIT. He wasn't good enough to play in our Premier League team, neither was Demichelis. They were both SHIT. Dzeko was the only player who would have been deserving of a place in our Premier League team & the manager took him off, because the manager was SHIT. Mancini was SHIT.

If Yaya had been playing for Roma, he would be taking the fucking piss like Maicon & Gervinho. We've seen Maicon for City, he is SHIT. We've seen Gervinho, he is SHIT.

The reason they were giving us problems & a 38 year old scored the kind of goal usually only scored by a younger quicker player, is because we are SHIT in Europe.

We would never concede that goal to that player in the Premier League. Never.

apart from shit ones that play for stoke?

Nigels Tackle wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:If Roma played the same formation as us, with DeRossi & whoever, we would have them for breakfast, (or should I say, our Premier League team would have them for breakfast, as the Champions League side would struggle vs Rangers or Bate Borisov).

We had all this shit when we played Napoli 'oh what a great side they are, let's sign all their players' then Chelsea rolled them over without getting out of 1st gear.

We are SHIT in Europe. Not only in the Champions League, but in the Europa too. We are SHIT.

Not Yaya, fucking City. City are SHIT in Europe. It's not down to one player, it's down to the whole team & the manager (s), the formation, the attitude, everything.

How much better was Vincent Kompamy's performance last night than Yaya's ? Answer: it wasn't: he was SHIT. He wasn't good enough to play in our Premier League team, neither was Demichelis. They were both SHIT. Dzeko was the only player who would have been deserving of a place in our Premier League team & the manager took him off, because the manager was SHIT. Mancini was SHIT.

If Yaya had been playing for Roma, he would be taking the fucking piss like Maicon & Gervinho. We've seen Maicon for City, he is SHIT. We've seen Gervinho, he is SHIT.

The reason they were giving us problems & a 38 year old scored the kind of goal usually only scored by a younger quicker player, is because we are SHIT in Europe.

We would never concede that goal to that player in the Premier League. Never.

apart from shit ones that play for stoke?

Do you need reminding that we are the Premier League Champions ?

Ted Hughes wrote:
Do you need reminding that we are the Premier League Champions ?

"premier league: a league in decline" or similar. of course it's bollox, but year after year of PL failures in Europe (most notably ours) will make you start to wonder.

Nigels Tackle wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:If Roma played the same formation as us, with DeRossi & whoever, we would have them for breakfast, (or should I say, our Premier League team would have them for breakfast, as the Champions League side would struggle vs Rangers or Bate Borisov).

We had all this shit when we played Napoli 'oh what a great side they are, let's sign all their players' then Chelsea rolled them over without getting out of 1st gear.

We are SHIT in Europe. Not only in the Champions League, but in the Europa too. We are SHIT.

Not Yaya, fucking City. City are SHIT in Europe. It's not down to one player, it's down to the whole team & the manager (s), the formation, the attitude, everything.

How much better was Vincent Kompamy's performance last night than Yaya's ? Answer: it wasn't: he was SHIT. He wasn't good enough to play in our Premier League team, neither

was Demichelis. They were both SHIT. Dzeko was the only player who would have been deserving of a place in our Premier League team & the manager took him off, because the manager was SHIT. Mancini was SHIT.

If Yaya had been playing for Roma, he would be taking the fucking piss like Maicon & Gervinho. We've seen Maicon for City, he is SHIT. We've seen Gervinho, he is SHIT.

The reason they were giving us problems & a 38 year old scored the kind of goal usually only scored by a younger quicker player, is because we are SHIT in Europe.

We would never concede that goal to that player in the Premier League. Never.

apart from shit ones that play for stoke?

We never look comfortable be it here or away, I see no improvement in us we don't help ourself the adjustment to the formation should have been done swiftly not wasting an hour of a game we never had control of, that is a question for Pellers. We also manage to lose width and somehow get the opposition doing to us what we do in the premier league.

We don't really have Premier League failures in Europe apart from City & even we got through to the next stage last season. Chelsea won it a few years back, then everyone said Bayern & Dortmund were unstoppable only for them to be stopped.

It's a load of bollocks imo. In the flesh I've seen one really great side & that was Bayern last season, but even then they only scored because we helped them, & as soon as we started to play, Boateng & Co went to pieces just as they did in Germany. Barca were obviously a great team u der Pep & Real have a couple of great players, but Chelsea have shown that it's possible to get to the final with hard work, as did Inter.

We are simply not playing at anything like our true level & as soon as we do, we tear teams apart. But we only do it for 5 mins in a game then bottle it again.

That Joe Hart was unfortunate ,slipping as he came out to challenge Totti, is what we have to accept.

It does however hide the fact that Kompany and Demi were hopelessly disorganised .

Totti is 38 for godsake. 38 ,slow and over the hill.

That's how bad our defending was .Let's not talk about Clichy ... jeez has he lost the plot.

Pellegrini must sort it out. Blimey he even was stupid enough to take Edin off instead of Kun. who is also in need of a kick in the pants. talk about lazy....

Ted Hughes wrote:If Roma played the same formation as us, with DeRossi & whoever, we would have them for breakfast, (or should I say, our Premier League team would have them for breakfast, as the Champions League side would struggle vs Rangers or Bate Borisov).

We had all this shit when we played Napoli 'oh what a great side they are, let's sign all their players' then Chelsea rolled them over without getting out of 1st gear.

We are SHIT in Europe. Not only in the Champions League, but in the Europa too. We are SHIT.

Not Yaya, fucking City. City are SHIT in Europe. It's not down to one player, it's down to the whole team & the manager (s), the formation, the attitude, everything.

How much better was Vincent Kompamy's performance last night than Yaya's ? Answer: it wasn't: he was SHIT. He wasn't good enough to play in our Premier League team, neither was Demichelis. They were both SHIT. Dzeko was the only player who would have been deserving of a place in our Premier League team & the manager took him off, because the manager was SHIT. Mancini was SHIT.

If Yaya had been playing for Roma, he would be taking the fucking piss like Maicon & Gervinho. We've seen Maicon for City, he is SHIT. We've seen Gervinho, he is SHIT.

The reason they were giving us problems & a 38 year old scored the kind of goal usually only scored by a younger quicker player, is because we are SHIT in Europe.

We would never concede that goal to that player in the Premier League. Never.

wiser words have never been spoken…

which is why, until City prove other wise, a pessimist like me cares only about the domestic trophies.

But We dont have SHIT players.

Defending from defenders and midfielders was pathetic for their goal and when maicaon hit the bar, plus other occasions too when they got in with relative ease. No pressing, No TACKLING, standing five yards off with no basic effort to fight for the ball or close them down, they had hours to pick a pass. We might get away with this lazy approach in the PL but no way against better european sides.
Toure gets a lot of shit, probably too much, as his attacking qualities get him out of jail, but he is not good enough to play in amiddle two from a defensive prespective. He needs two behind/alongside. If thats done a striker needs to be omitted. Maybe i am missing something here, but i cant understand why Pellirgini doesnt deal with this.

Can't really be arsed going all through this, but on the first page there was a lot of venom toward Nasri who's in a hospital bed ffs.
Get a fuckin grip.

sheblue wrote:But We dont have SHIT players.

Defending from defenders and midfielders was pathetic for their goal and when maicaon hit the bar, plus other occasions too when they got in with relative ease. No pressing, No TACKLING, standing five yards off with no basic effort to fight for the ball or close them down, they had hours to pick a pass. We might get away with this lazy approach in the PL but no way against better european sides.
Toure gets a lot of shit, probably too much, as his attacking qualities get him out of jail, but he is not good enough to play in amiddle two from a defensive prespective. He needs two behind/alongside. If thats done a striker needs to be omitted. Maybe i am missing something here, but i cant understand why Pellirgini doesnt deal with this.

The idea is, we are supposed to keep he ball, like Barca, then the WHOLE TEAM, chase to get it back like Barca (used to). But we give the ball away, & only a few players (usually Fernandinho & Yaya) really try to get it back. Silva makes a tken effort then gives up, Aguero does fuck all, Dzeko runs back to try & get involved but in the end, if Yaya, Fern & the back 4 don't do it, we're mostly fucked.

So obviously, Yaya is not upto that job.

Pellegrini keeps trying it, hoping we will get better at it. Mancini signed Garcia & Rodwell hoping they would sort it out but they couldn't & we were better without Rodwell. The latest hope is Fernando. He looks better equipped for it tbf but still it will be asking Yaya to be a key defender, which is like asking Nasri to be a key defender.

Interestingly Fernandinho said that in the CL we were playing top european teams who had a lot of players who were technically very good and we had to learn to play differently. Perhaps a hint of disagreement between a player and the manager?

I can think of one thing he did today

He wins games. Big man steps up. YAYAYAAY

Had a good game today. Bet he's had the most touches, the most passes, made interceptions, looked threatening and scored the all important first goal. More of the same every week please

He's been poor so far this season but that was a big big goal today in fairness. Well done Yaya

Apart from the goal thought he put in a very good shift today, much better when fernando came on. Love to see him just ahead of the two ferds behind the main striker.
Come on manuel you know it makes sense.

Lets hope this kicks him into gear as we need his goals.
Yeah

sheblue wrote:Apart from the goal thought he put in a very good shift today, much better when fernando came on. Love to see him just ahead of the two ferds behind the main striker.
Come on manuel you know it makes sense.

Apart from the goal he was actually shite...his passes were to anyone and no one..sideways.
I hope this goal spurs him on as he has performed like Nasri till now...both shite.

carl_feedthegoat wrote:

sheblue wrote:Apart from the goal thought he put in a very good shift today, much better when fernando came on. Love to see him just ahead of the two ferds behind the main striker.
Come on manuel you know it makes sense.

Apart from the goal he was actually shite...his passes were to anyone and no one..sideways.
I hope this goal spurs him on as he has performed like Nasri till now...both shite.

Me had a bank of 5 and a bank of 4 in between him and the goal at all times. If he hadn't gone sideways you'd be screaming he had given it away too much. Can't ask much more than what he did today for my money.