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Re: champions league draw...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:32 am
by lets all have a disco
We've got a big and good enough squad to cope.

Re: champions league draw...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:42 am
by DoomMerchant
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:I fear the impact our pursuit of the Champions League will have on our chances of winning the league this year. We might end up with nish because of it.


i don't fear it. Our owners and Cheeky and Soriano clearly don't fear it either. The Count doesn't fear anything. We are going to operate like clockwork. We do our best in every competition. We want to win everything. Culturally, for me, that's as important a statement as any we can make, and i think it reflects well on the history of the club, and the fan's mentality. It's a humility that other clubs can't even bother with. We can take their cynicism, and their mafioso bollox and one up them with humble attitudes and trophies.

cheers

Re: champions league draw...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:14 am
by Blue Blood
A hard draw but i'm used to it now.

A quick question for all on here,

How can I get 2x tickets to City vs Roma? I'm not a member of any schemes or hold any season cards, is it still possible?

My brother is a huge Roma and Francesco Totti fan and I'd like to take him to see them before he retires. Never fancied going to Italy (I don't want to be stabbed) so this is a great opportunity to kill two birds with one stone. City and Roma, lovely stuff.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Re: champions league draw...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:28 am
by Cit.revenge
I still can't believe our luck in this draws 3 in 4 times strongest group!

Re: champions league draw...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:46 am
by Wonderwall
Cit.revenge wrote:I still can't believe our luck in this draws 3 in 4 times strongest group!


There is no luck involved

Re: champions league draw...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:49 am
by Ted Hughes
Blue Blood wrote:A hard draw but i'm used to it now.

A quick question for all on here,

How can I get 2x tickets to City vs Roma? I'm not a member of any schemes or hold any season cards, is it still possible?

My brother is a huge Roma and Francesco Totti fan and I'd like to take him to see them before he retires. Never fancied going to Italy (I don't want to be stabbed) so this is a great opportunity to kill two birds with one stone. City and Roma, lovely stuff.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!


I'm a season card holder so I don't do it myself, but it's certainly possible. Loads of obvious 'non regulars' attend Champions League games. I think they have some kind of scam now where people are supposed to buy a membership card costing about 50 notes, which gives them the 'right' to buy tickets for games before they go on sale to the general public, but I would imagine tickets will also go on 'open' sale for that game.

Get in touch with the club & ask how it works.

Re: champions league draw...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:06 pm
by dikdok
Wonderwall wrote:
Cit.revenge wrote:I still can't believe our luck in this draws 3 in 4 times strongest group!


There is no luck involved


Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not.....

Re: champions league draw...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:17 pm
by DoomMerchant
Wonderwall wrote:
Cit.revenge wrote:I still can't believe our luck in this draws 3 in 4 times strongest group!


There is no luck involved


It's less institutionally corrupt than a North Korean election. Barely.

cheers

Re: champions league draw...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:26 pm
by Hutch's Shoulder
If we want to win stuff we are going to have to get through hard periods like September.

It's actually a good time to have a tough run; assuming no more injuries in the next two weeks we have a full squad to chose from bar the Beast.

Re: champions league draw...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:01 pm
by Tesl
DoomMerchant wrote:
PrezIke wrote:3 out 4 years where we have a very tough group. like clockwork.


we're fucked until we get out of Pot 2.

When was the last time a team outside of Pot 1 won the CL?

this shit is rigged as fuck and so fake it's unbelievable. If i were English i'd rather win the FA Cup all day long than ever participate in this bent ass competition. Just sayin.

cheers


This is me exactly! I hate this competition!

I just hope we don't waste too much energy on it if it costs us in the league. We are good enough to get out of the group and we should do, although the protectionist seeding system makes it 10x harder to do well in this competition than it should be.

I'm pleased with our league cup draw at least, I'd rather we concentrate on the domestic treble =)

Re: champions league draw...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:15 pm
by Sideshow Bob
while i appreciate the whole pull ourselves up by our bootstraps and get on with it mentality, I'm sorry, but this CL fix winds me up to no fucking end. if, god forbid, we fail to get out of the group, all of the smug, hypocritical cunts in the media/match commentators/wenger and rodgers/fans of other clubs/etc. will use it as a club to bash us for the rest of the season. pellegrini will be labeled a failure and suddenly be "under pressure". and the obvious irony is that if dippers, Chelsea or arse had had our draw, they would get absolutely fucking mullered.

Re: champions league draw...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:40 pm
by patrickblue
Wonderwall wrote:
Cit.revenge wrote:I still can't believe our luck in this draws 3 in 4 times strongest group!


There is no luck involved


This on the X11 forum from an Arsenal fan.

"Also its funny how City get shafted every season. Like they definitely get the 'group of death' every time. Most of the other big countries lower seeds get an easy chance to build rep. Liverpool for example, Basel and Ludogorets. Basel have been good but lost their best players and manager in the last season. Monaco got a fairly decent group for them and Athletic too. You could say City get shafted because the elite are thinking of the money, but Chelsea, PSG and again Monaco ain't getting this treatment."

The predictable response from Liverpuddle fan

"I don't quite get this, but I'm still on my first coffee.

Are you saying that City are being shafted because the draw is preordained and they pretend to draw them out randomly?

'The elite' must be some shady underworld organisation... ...FIFA?"

And the Arsenal guys answer.

"It surely wouldn't be beyond either FIFA or UEFA.

But look at the groups.

Barcelona and Ajax, Chelsea and Schalke, City have the same group as last year just with Roma chucked in for good measure. Us and Dortmund. There may be more. All these grouped together last season. They do a pre draw draw every time and the pre draw is usually almost the same. So much so sometimes the Press give the predraw results as an indicator to how groups are going to be drawn. Clubs like Man City are frowned upon because its a smaller club coming up. While Paris, Monaco and even Chelsea enhanced their status with cash, they were already fairly established in europe and fairly big. Man City I think are getting punished for their emergence from the small time"

That's how blatantly obvious it is.

Re: champions league draw...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:06 pm
by carolina-blue
At last other fans are seeing it

Re: champions league draw...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 3:29 pm
by blues2win
Some talk that UEFA are seriously considering putting League Champions in Pot1 from next year. Can't see Real Barca Chelsea or the Arse being thrilled but it makes sense.

Re: champions league draw...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 3:32 pm
by Bridge'srightfoot
"Gareth, how do you feel about going up against Glen Johnson?"
Watch on youtube.com

Re: champions league draw...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 3:59 pm
by blues2win
If the Scum Arsenal and United are in the top 4 this year they'd all be in pot 1 despite the rags absence this year. Our percentage chance of drawing Bayern Real or Barca would therefore be even higher next year as things stand. Defending champions from 7 leagues plus winners would offer us a much better chance of an easier draw even if we don't win the league.

Re: champions league draw...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:02 pm
by Sideshow Bob
blues2win wrote:Some talk that UEFA are seriously considering putting League Champions in Pot1 from next year. Can't see Real Barca Chelsea or the Arse being thrilled but it makes sense.


so next year when we might finally scrape into pot 1 on coeff points, they're going to change the rules again? surely just a coincidence.

Re: champions league draw...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:04 pm
by Piccsnumberoneblue
blues2win wrote:If the Scum Arsenal and United are in the top 4 this year they'd all be in pot 1 despite the rags absence this year. Our percentage chance of drawing Bayern Real or Barca would therefore be even higher next year as things stand. Defending champions from 7 leagues plus winners would offer us a much better chance of an easier draw even if we don't win the league.


But that isn't what seeding is about. Everybody knows it.

Re: champions league draw...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:18 pm
by Peter Doherty (AGAIG)
DoomMerchant wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:I fear the impact our pursuit of the Champions League will have on our chances of winning the league this year. We might end up with nish because of it.


i don't fear it. Our owners and Cheeky and Soriano clearly don't fear it either. The Count doesn't fear anything. We are going to operate like clockwork. We do our best in every competition. We want to win everything. Culturally, for me, that's as important a statement as any we can make, and i think it reflects well on the history of the club, and the fan's mentality. It's a humility that other clubs can't even bother with. We can take their cynicism, and their mafioso bollox and one up them with humble attitudes and trophies.

cheers

Intellectually I wouldn't disagree, but emotionally I still expect us to fuck up things.

Re: champions league draw...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:00 pm
by South Stand Balti
It looks like we are in pot 1 next season. The powers that be are chucking all domestic champs into pot one next time, plus the reigning champs. I'm assuming we will win the league yet again this season