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Bianchi on Ice wrote:

Slim wrote:

Bianchi on Ice wrote:

Saul Goodman wrote:Well you can partially thank the motherland for that one too.

"Foot ball" used to mean "games played on foot" in medieval England.
Then, in the early days of American football the forward pass wasnt legal so teams kicked/punted more than they do now. So feet were used alot more back then. Plus, when "american football" was in its infancy there weren't standardized rules and every college played it dfferently. Eventually they mimicked Australian rugby which is why the two are sorta similar now

In a nut shell

In a nut shell Nige you've done a piss poor job of insulting the yanks. Try again ;)

Except nothing he is saying it actually true.

Quite right. Nothing he is saying is actually true, and he is being quite calm and rational about it, but I've had a shit day and its not good enough. I want fireworks

Nip round to Mario's then.

Slim wrote:

Bianchi on Ice wrote:

Slim wrote:

Bianchi on Ice wrote:

Saul Goodman wrote:Well you can partially thank the motherland for that one too.

"Foot ball" used to mean "games played on foot" in medieval England.
Then, in the early days of American football the forward pass wasnt legal so teams kicked/punted more than they do now. So feet were used alot more back then. Plus, when "american football" was in its infancy there weren't standardized rules and every college played it dfferently. Eventually they mimicked Australian rugby which is why the two are sorta similar now

In a nut shell

In a nut shell Nige you've done a piss poor job of insulting the yanks. Try again ;)

Except nothing he is saying it actually true.

Quite right. Nothing he is saying is actually true, and he is being quite calm and rational about it, but I've had a shit day and its not good enough. I want fireworks

Nip round to Mario's then.

haha

Slim wrote:

Bianchi on Ice wrote:

Saul Goodman wrote:Well you can partially thank the motherland for that one too.

"Foot ball" used to mean "games played on foot" in medieval England.
Then, in the early days of American football the forward pass wasnt legal so teams kicked/punted more than they do now. So feet were used alot more back then. Plus, when "american football" was in its infancy there weren't standardized rules and every college played it dfferently. Eventually they mimicked Australian rugby which is why the two are sorta similar now

In a nut shell

In a nut shell Nige you've done a piss poor job of insulting the yanks. Try again ;)

Except nothing he is saying it actually true.

Except that it is

"In 1863 a meeting was held in Cambridge where a ban was placed on "Hacking", "Tripping" and Blackheath's preference, "running with the ball in the hands towards the opposite goal after a fair catch".

A separate meeting was also held in the Freemasons' Tavern, Great Queen Street, London with eleven schools and clubs supporting the kicking and handling codes present. They drew up common rules by which they could play each other, however, after they had reached a compromise a number of the attendees recanted and ended up adopting the Cambridge rules (which precluded running with the ball). Blackheath subsequently withdrew from the football association as it was then called. Henceforth there was a split between Association football (soccer) and Rugby Football (rugby)."

Saul Goodman wrote:

Slim wrote:

Bianchi on Ice wrote:

Saul Goodman wrote:Well you can partially thank the motherland for that one too.

"Foot ball" used to mean "games played on foot" in medieval England.
Then, in the early days of American football the forward pass wasnt legal so teams kicked/punted more than they do now. So feet were used alot more back then. Plus, when "american football" was in its infancy there weren't standardized rules and every college played it dfferently. Eventually they mimicked Australian rugby which is why the two are sorta similar now

In a nut shell

In a nut shell Nige you've done a piss poor job of insulting the yanks. Try again ;)

Except nothing he is saying it actually true.

Except that it is

With the one exception that....it isn't.

Wacko.

Cheers

"The story begins, like many good stories do, in a pub. As early as the Middle Ages, Szymanski explains, the rough outlines of soccer—a game, a ball, feet—appear to have been present in England. But it wasn't until the sport became popular among aristocratic boys at schools like Eton and Rugby in the nineteenth century that these young men tried to standardize play. On a Monday evening in October 1863, the leaders of a dozen clubs met at the Freemasons' Tavern in London to establish "a definite code of rules for the regulation of the game.” They did just that, forming the Football Association. The most divisive issue was whether to permit "hacking," or kicking an opponent in the leg (the answer, ultimately, was 'no').


The Football Association
But that wasn't where the controversy ended. In 1871, another set of clubs met in London to codify a version of the game that involved more use of the hands—a variant most closely associated with the Rugby School.

"From this point onwards the two versions of football were distinguished by reference to their longer titles, Rugby Football and Association Football (named after the Football Association)," Szymanski writes. "The rugby football game was shortened to 'rugger,'" while "the association football game was, plausibly, shortened to 'soccer.'"

Both sports fragmented yet again as they spread around the world. The colloquialism "soccer" caught on in the United States in the first decade of the twentieth century, in part to distinguish the game from American football, a hybrid of Association Football and Rugby Football. (Countries that tend to use the word "soccer" nowadays—Australia, for example—usually have another sport called "football.")"

Saul Goodman wrote:"The story begins, like many good stories do, in a pub. As early as the Middle Ages, Szymanski explains, the rough outlines of soccer—a game, a ball, feet—appear to have been present in England. But it wasn't until the sport became popular among aristocratic boys at schools like Eton and Rugby in the nineteenth century that these young men tried to standardize play. On a Monday evening in October 1863, the leaders of a dozen clubs met at the Freemasons' Tavern in London to establish "a definite code of rules for the regulation of the game.” They did just that, forming the Football Association. The most divisive issue was whether to permit "hacking," or kicking an opponent in the leg (the answer, ultimately, was 'no').


The Football Association
But that wasn't where the controversy ended. In 1871, another set of clubs met in London to codify a version of the game that involved more use of the hands—a variant most closely associated with the Rugby School.

"From this point onwards the two versions of football were distinguished by reference to their longer titles, Rugby Football and Association Football (named after the Football Association)," Szymanski writes. "The rugby football game was shortened to 'rugger,'" while "the association football game was, plausibly, shortened to 'soccer.'"

Both sports fragmented yet again as they spread around the world. The colloquialism "soccer" caught on in the United States in the first decade of the twentieth century, in part to distinguish the game from American football, a hybrid of Association Football and Rugby Football. (Countries that tend to use the word "soccer" nowadays—Australia, for example—usually have another sport called "football.")"

Dear Saul Wikipediac,

You aren't dealing with your 12 yr old nephew.

Fucking get with the program. Spazmoid.

Cheers

thats not from wikipedia you fucking retard.

if you're gonna butt into other people's conversations at least have something meaningful to offer.

Cheers

Saul Goodman wrote:thats not from wikipedia you fucking retard.

if you're gonna butt into other people's conversations at least have something meaningful to offer.

Cheers

I look forward to the moment you start having something meaningful to offer.

You just posted a speculative opinion by someone on where 'soccer' comes from and are acting as though it's fact. Give it up.

Dameerto wrote:You just posted a speculative opinion by someone on where 'soccer' comes from and are acting as though it's fact. Give it up.

Probably from the bleacherreport, you know what bastions of knowledge they are.

just let it go saul, there's no reasoning with them ... Island mentality and a huge chip on their shoulder when it comes to us, especially now that the national team is even more shit than ours. Let them have their footie, they're not very good at it anyway.

*SIGH*

Is this supposed to be another 'Next' thread?

If 'hacking' is no longer allowed, how does one explain the stud marks & cuts on Dzeko's thigh Monday night, & the lack of any subsequent punishment ?.

Ted Hughes wrote:If 'hacking' is no longer allowed, how does one explain the stud marks & cuts on Dzeko's thigh Monday night, & the lack of any subsequent punishment ?.

I Think YaYa took care of the punishment :)

Ted Hughes wrote:If 'hacking' is no longer allowed, how does one explain the stud marks & cuts on Dzeko's thigh Monday night, & the lack of any subsequent punishment ?.

I Think YaYa took care of the punishment :)

Saul Goodman wrote:thats not from wikipedia you fucking retard.

if you're gonna butt into other people's conversations at least have something meaningful to offer.

Cheers

Hey genius,

http://www.amazon.com/The-Ball-Round-Gl ... 1594482969

Read a fucking book instead of just copying and pasting articles from The Atlantic. You'll get a lot more educated. And my apologies to Wikipedia. I didn't realize it was an article you read a month ago while following the WC, mister superfan.

And yes, it's a well-established fact that the word "soccer" is an English term created by the English. And your fucking point is what exactly? Plenty of colloquial terms that are in and out of fashion everywhere.

If you are going to spout off and quote articles and clip paragraphs and paragraphs from them without getting to the point and making something *your own* and having an opinion to share and have an actual conversation instead of the dross you usually type, then expect someone to gently punch you in the dick now and then big fella.

If i want 6 paragraph reads at least Ted is sharing an opinion when he gets his quill and ink out and writes a tome.

cheers

You don't know whether I'm atome.

This will be my first game at the Etihad in over a year after being finally priced out of games last season. Got some tickets from a mate on the relative cheap in 110. Pretty psyched. Can't wait to see how much more 'modern football' our ground has become in the past year.