Denayer to Celtic

[Ted Hughes]

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/EDS-news/201 ... ic-on-loan

City EDS starlet Jason Denayer has joined Celtic on a season-long loan.

The 19-year-old, who featured for Manuel Pellegrini's first-team in the pre-season tour of Scotland, will be available for selection ahead of the Hoops' Champions League qualifier against Slovenian side Maribor.

The Belgian defender enjoyed an impressive 2013/14 campaign and as reward for his efforts, received a nomination for the EDS Player of the Year award.

Reflecting on the news, EDS manager Patrick Vieira told mcfc.co.uk he feels the decision will be hugely beneficial to the youngster.

"I really think Jason to Celtic is a good loan move," Vieira declared. "It's a great chance for him to go and get some experience.

"He's going to a team who will have a chance to play in the Champions League or Europa League so it is a really positive move."

IF, he gets himself into the team, this is fantastic. Perfect place to learn as it's tough & competitive, but not so high quality that it's impossible to get games.

He has no problem with football, that's easy for him; learning to fight off manic gingers etc in the heat of a high pressure battle is absolutely the kind of thing that will man him up for the Prem. And he could also find himself playing v quality euro opposition.

I just hope he can get in the team, not easy. It also has the bonus of making Scottish football occasionally worth watching.

[Moonchesteri]

If he sees lot of action this could be fantastic loan move imo. Hope he gets his chance and does well
What's Celtic's CB situation looking like?

[Ted Hughes]

If he sees lot of action this could be fantastic loan move imo. Hope he gets his chance and does well
What's Celtic's CB situation looking like?

I know there was a Dutch geezer who was getting rave reviews & even being linked to City. Dunno who plays next to him. Probably an Eastern European we've never heard of or some ginger geezer with a beard & no pace.

Edit: they've got Ambrose(Nigerian) so Denayer will be backup unless they are about to sell the Dutch cb (Van Dijk).

[twosips]

Charlie Mulgrew is their captain who plays centre back and they have that dutch bloke who Ted mentioned too who is apparently very good. Bit surprised about this - not necessarily sure Denayer is guaranteed games tbh.

[Ted Hughes]

Charlie Mulgrew is their captain who plays centre back and they have that dutch bloke who Ted mentioned too who is apparently very good. Bit surprised about this - not necessarily sure Denayer is guaranteed games tbh.

Just edited above; it could be that Van Dijk is on the move.

[Nigels Tackle]

van dijk to southampton?

[Wonderwall]

Charlie Mulgrew is their captain who plays centre back and they have that dutch bloke who Ted mentioned too who is apparently very good. Bit surprised about this - not necessarily sure Denayer is guaranteed games tbh.

Mulgrew is the idiot who gave away the two pens against Legia Warsaw, maybe they are looking to offload him?

[twosips]

Charlie Mulgrew is their captain who plays centre back and they have that dutch bloke who Ted mentioned too who is apparently very good. Bit surprised about this - not necessarily sure Denayer is guaranteed games tbh.

Mulgrew is the idiot who gave away the two pens against Legia Warsaw, maybe they are looking to offload him?

Oh i know - he's probably terrible, but ya know. He's scottish and most likely captain brave and all that so the locals will probably like him. I don't see em dropping their captain for a kid.

[Ted Hughes]

Charlie Mulgrew is their captain who plays centre back and they have that dutch bloke who Ted mentioned too who is apparently very good. Bit surprised about this - not necessarily sure Denayer is guaranteed games tbh.

Mulgrew is the idiot who gave away the two pens against Legia Warsaw, maybe they are looking to offload him?

And Celtic fans are slating Ambrose for two red cards in recent games.

[blues2win]

The Celtic Manager is really talking up Denayer. Claims he's already worth 10 million and will be worth a lot more in the future.

[Ted Hughes]

The way he's talking it really does seem like he's going to play Denayer. The lad himself seems supremely confident. If he can get off to a good start without any daft mistakes, this move could turn him into a first team squad player. My only question about him would be if he can handle the rough and tumble side of things & he will get the required practice there.

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

The Celtic Manager is really talking up Denayer. Claims he's already worth 10 million and will be worth a lot more in the future.

I've not seen him play but the reviews I've read about him suggested he might have been be kept and put into our current squads. Desperately hope it works out for him up there.

[Ted Hughes]

The Celtic Manager is really talking up Denayer. Claims he's already worth 10 million and will be worth a lot more in the future.

I've not seen him play but the reviews I've read about him suggested he might have been be kept and put into our current squads. Desperately hope it works out for him up there.

Deffo not imo. Throwing him into the Premier League could have cost him & us. Not ready. This is perfect IF he can win his place. There are no guarantees with that as he has never faced anything of this level but it's not the Prem so it could be an ideal level for him to learn.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

The Celtic Manager is really talking up Denayer. Claims he's already worth 10 million and will be worth a lot more in the future.

I've not seen him play but the reviews I've read about him suggested he might have been be kept and put into our current squads. Desperately hope it works out for him up there.

Deffo not imo. Throwing him into the Premier League could have cost him & us. Not ready. This is perfect IF he can win his place. There are no guarantees with that as he has never faced anything of this level but it's not the Prem so it could be an ideal level for him to learn.

Agree Ted it looks like a really good loan opportunity.Let's hope he plays and makes the most of it and I think he will do just that starting tonight.

[blues2win]

There will clearly be space for a centre back in the first team squad next season. Will MDM be given another year? Maybe maybe not. Is Dedryck really the answer as a fourth choice centre back? Not at all clear. Pellegrini apparently rates Rekik to a degree and we'll see if that judgement is justified post his renewed loan in the Eredivisie.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

There will clearly be space for a centre back in the first team squad next season. Will MDM be given another year? Maybe maybe not. Is Dedryck really the answer as a fourth choice centre back? Not at all clear. Pellegrini apparently rates Rekik to a degree and we'll see if that judgement is justified post his renewed loan in the Eredivisie.

I am guessing MP will have seen enough of Rekik pre season to have the same opinion as the rest of us. Another loan year to see if he can change that is about right imo but I would not be surprised if we don't see him back at City again. I might be being a little harsh on him as I thought he was a real prospect but he simply doesn't seem to have kicked on at all through last season One more chance to do that I feel is right.

On the other question though I equally don't think Dedryk is our answer for the 4th centre back.Maybe 5th behind Sagna

[blues2win]

I think Sagna should be used as CB ahead of Dedryck but Ted's got a point that Dedryck might play better alongside either Vinny or MDM. City's line with Nasty seems to be that they are content to keep hold of Nasty but are prepared to listen to offers because his playing time will be limited. I think he'll be off to be honest. Let's face it we've waited and we've seen.

[Ted Hughes]

There will clearly be space for a centre back in the first team squad next season. Will MDM be given another year? Maybe maybe not. Is Dedryck really the answer as a fourth choice centre back? Not at all clear. Pellegrini apparently rates Rekik to a degree and we'll see if that judgement is justified post his renewed loan in the Eredivisie.

I am guessing MP will have seen enough of Rekik pre season to have the same opinion as the rest of us. Another loan year to see if he can change that is about right imo but I would not be surprised if we don't see him back at City again. I might be being a little harsh on him as I thought he was a real prospect but he simply doesn't seem to have kicked on at all through last season One more chance to do that I feel is right.

On the other question though I equally don't think Dedryk is our answer for the 4th centre back.Maybe 5th behind Sagna

I would rate Rekik behind Denayer by a distance, the only difference being that he has played a full season of proper football & Denayer hasn't. Next season I would be very disappointed if Denayer hasn't left Rekik well & truly behind in the race for the 4th cb spot.

Going back to PSV is a good move for him but I would have preferred him to go somewhere a bit more difficult to see if he can hack it at a higher level. But it should still be possible to guage whether he improves the weaknesses in his game over the next season. How he can compensate for his lack of pace & aerial power though, I don't know.

He's just too heavy imo. He was quicker & better in the air at 15.

[john68]

I was at the Dundee game and was quite amazed atthe uality of Denayer's strength and physicality. He looked a real prospect but a bit raw. I think the SPL is a good level for him.

I think there is a distinct possibility of him overtaking MDM but next season.

[Ted Hughes]

I was at the Dundee game and was quite amazed atthe uality of Denayer's strength and physicality. He looked a real prospect but a bit raw. I think the SPL is a good level for him.

I think there is a distinct possibility of him overtaking MDM but next season.

I think we have to take into account that he was playing v Dundee though & not the kind of power he would face in the Prem. But he does look like a proper athlete.

Slightly off topic, people suggesting Sagna as 4th cb; I've read that on here on numerous occasions & not really thought long about it tbh, as he's not really a cb build, but I recently read an interview by Sagna from 2013 (he'd just apparently played a stormer for Arsenal at cb), & he actually said that due to his age, he wasn't sure how long he could keep bombing up & down the flank & that he considered it possible he may become a cb.

Whether he's spoken to City about that I don't know. I bet I can find it.

Yes I can, here it is.

Bacary Sagna believes his future may lie in central defence.

One of Sagna's best performances in an Arsenal shirt came against Saturday's opponents Sunderland in a hard-fought 1-0 win at the Stadium of Light in February, when he filled in for the injured Laurent Koscielny.

The French defender has been a reliable back-up option in that role for Arsène Wenger and has drawn comparisons with former France international Lilian Thuram, who made an identical move from the right to the middle.
"[We make it work] because of our character, I think that we are fighters," Sagna told Arsenal Player. "Technically we are not better than anyone else but mentally we are strong and we know what we want and we always want to learn. Even at 30 I still have time to learn another position and I'm looking forward to it.

"Why not [play there in future]? I'm getting old and at right back you need to put in a lot more effort. I don't know how long I can do that to my maximum so maybe one day I will be able to play centre back.

Probably not the best thread for it, but seeing as we're talking cbs I thought I'd chuck it in here.