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MilnersJaw wrote:i think its come to the point he is only still here for the fact that he is english. Maybe we need to be playing at least one english player for the sake of it or for the home grown bullshit.

MilnersJaw wrote:

Cit.revenge wrote:It s crazy that Stoke have better Goalie then us and we spend millions on all place but one that really can make difference

i think its come to the point he is only still here for the fact that he is english. Maybe we need to be playing at least one english player for the sake of it or for the home grown bullshit.

the thing is, there are no fucking good english players bar milner.

bayblue wrote:Strikes me that there's a raft of people here who will never be happy with Joe.
For me it'd be crazy to drop him on the basis of yesterday. And where's the evidence that Caballero is any better? Always struck me as odd that he's never got into the Argentine first team squad, and they've never struck me as a team with a huge choice of keepers.

Ted Hughes wrote:Started kicking & dicking again yesterday.

Very disappointing.

Manuel Pellegrini has told goalkeeper Joe Hart he can expect to miss games this season as the Manchester City boss manages his squad through four competitions.

Hart lost his place last autumn after a series of errors and was replaced by Costel Pantilimon before returning to enjoy a strong second-half of the season as City won the Premier League title.

But the 27-year-old was partially at fault for Mame Biram Diouf's breakaway winner in Stoke's shock victory at Eastlands a fortnight ago, prompting questions about the possibility of new signing Willy Caballero, who played under Pellegrini at Malaga, making his debut soon.

Pellegrini said: "Of course Willy Caballero can be in any team, he's a very good goalkeeper. In this moment I'm playing Joe Hart but he will have his opportunity soon.

"Willy has a good career behind him. It's important to have competition in every position in the team, not just with Joe Hart and Willy Caballero.

"Replacing Joe Hart with Willy Caballero doesn't make a difference - just as (replacing) Zabaleta with Sagna or Mangala with Demichelis or Dzeko with Aguero, it's exactly the same.

"We need a squad if we want to win something."

However, Pellegrini assured Hart he will not be dropped on the basis of any isolated errors.

"I am not waiting for Joe Hart to make a mistake to change him for Willy Caballero," he added.

"Willy Caballero and Joe Hart know that I'm not waiting for Joe to make a first mistake and take out Joe Hart. Maybe last year Joe didn't start very well but he finished very well."

City face a tough week with a trip to Arsenal on Saturday followed by a midweek Champions League game at Bayern Munich before a visit from Chelsea, but Pellegrini would not be drawn on whether it would mark the start of any goalkeeper rotation.

"I really don't know, we'll see game by game. We'll play against Arsenal and one hour and 15 minutes before kick-off you will know which goalkeeper starts."

Ted Hughes wrote:Don't know if Willy is better than Joe Hart or not but if you look at title winning sides over the years & compare the keepers, pretty much all of them had keepers who won & drew them several games per season, with heroic displays, when they were right up against it.

How many such games has Joe Hart won for City & how many times have we looked back afterwards & asked a question ?

Original Dub wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:Don't know if Willy is better than Joe Hart or not but if you look at title winning sides over the years & compare the keepers, pretty much all of them had keepers who won & drew them several games per season, with heroic displays, when they were right up against it.

How many such games has Joe Hart won for City & how many times have we looked back afterwards & asked a question ?

Opening day v spurs a few seasons ago and dortmund away couple of years ago.

Besides that I can't honestly say he was world class.

Great save v everton last season but you're right, he offers more questions these days than answers.

Original Dub wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:Don't know if Willy is better than Joe Hart or not but if you look at title winning sides over the years & compare the keepers, pretty much all of them had keepers who won & drew them several games per season, with heroic displays, when they were right up against it.

How many such games has Joe Hart won for City & how many times have we looked back afterwards & asked a question ?

Opening day v spurs a few seasons ago and dortmund away couple of years ago.

Besides that I can't honestly say he was world class.

Great save v everton last season but you're right, he offers more questions these days than answers.

nottsblue wrote:

Original Dub wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:Don't know if Willy is better than Joe Hart or not but if you look at title winning sides over the years & compare the keepers, pretty much all of them had keepers who won & drew them several games per season, with heroic displays, when they were right up against it.

How many such games has Joe Hart won for City & how many times have we looked back afterwards & asked a question ?

Opening day v spurs a few seasons ago and dortmund away couple of years ago.

Besides that I can't honestly say he was world class.

Great save v everton last season but you're right, he offers more questions these days than answers.

If the Answer is Joe Hart, what was the question? Is sure as fuck isn't 'who is the premier leagues best goalie?'