Caballero V Hart

[phips]

i think its come to the point he is only still here for the fact that he is english. Maybe we need to be playing at least one english player for the sake of it or for the home grown bullshit.

I'm fully convinced thats it.

Pellegrini is dumping all our english players bar Milner and Hart…and Jimmy will surely leave.

[Cit.revenge]

It s crazy that Stoke have better Goalie then us and we spend millions on all place but one that really can make difference

i think its come to the point he is only still here for the fact that he is english. Maybe we need to be playing at least one english player for the sake of it or for the home grown bullshit.

the thing is, there are no fucking good english players bar milner.

And that is another thing, for me Navas is just to one dimensional player, fast but nothing else , Milner should be always before him for me.Hart is shit and hes shit for long time , In 3 seasons he did not save us points he cost us every season .Yes he make great save sometimes but with blunders it doesn't count . Goalie is the place who can win and lose games by him self like this game show and Chelsea game and Sunderland game and Aston Vila game and i can go on how many fuck ups he had.Buy a fucking keeper.I can name 10 keepers better then him from top of my head and not very expensive to.

[stadiumcat]

Hart is clueless with his distribution, when he does kick most of the time its straight into touch. why does he punch crosses so much? very rarely catches. How many times has he done what he did yesterday? very poor goalkeeping.

Yesterdays game was crying out for a quick break following a Stoke attack, what did we get Hart dancing about with the ball and then roll it to one of the back four!

Give Willie a chance.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

He got beat by a slow, crap shot straight at him. His distribution was awful as per.

[Ted Hughes]

Started kicking & dicking again yesterday.

Very disappointing.

[bayblue]

Strikes me that there's a raft of people here who will never be happy with Joe.
For me it'd be crazy to drop him on the basis of yesterday. And where's the evidence that Caballero is any better? Always struck me as odd that he's never got into the Argentine first team squad, and they've never struck me as a team with a huge choice of keepers.

[blues2win]

What's your view about Hart's distribution Ted? A lot of criticism on the site about dreadful kicking, too slow rolling out and sideways not forwards. That's in addition to his failure to command his penalty area punching all the time instead of catching bad judgement in rushing off his line and proneness to howlers. Quite a charge sheet.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Strikes me that there's a raft of people here who will never be happy with Joe.
For me it'd be crazy to drop him on the basis of yesterday. And where's the evidence that Caballero is any better? Always struck me as odd that he's never got into the Argentine first team squad, and they've never struck me as a team with a huge choice of keepers.

We all knew his distribution was never the best, nor the command of his area. His saving grace was always that he was a world class shot stopper.
It's hard to say he is even that anymore when he lets in goals like he did yesterday.

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

Started kicking & dicking again yesterday.

Very disappointing.

I thought the penny had finally dropped watching the game against the Dippers, but it seems it was just a tactical decision made purely for that game. And he looked like a fucking banana yesterday.

[phips]

Manuel Pellegrini has told goalkeeper Joe Hart he can expect to miss games this season as the Manchester City boss manages his squad through four competitions.

Hart lost his place last autumn after a series of errors and was replaced by Costel Pantilimon before returning to enjoy a strong second-half of the season as City won the Premier League title.

But the 27-year-old was partially at fault for Mame Biram Diouf's breakaway winner in Stoke's shock victory at Eastlands a fortnight ago, prompting questions about the possibility of new signing Willy Caballero, who played under Pellegrini at Malaga, making his debut soon.

Pellegrini said: "Of course Willy Caballero can be in any team, he's a very good goalkeeper. In this moment I'm playing Joe Hart but he will have his opportunity soon.

"Willy has a good career behind him. It's important to have competition in every position in the team, not just with Joe Hart and Willy Caballero.

"Replacing Joe Hart with Willy Caballero doesn't make a difference - just as (replacing) Zabaleta with Sagna or Mangala with Demichelis or Dzeko with Aguero, it's exactly the same.

"We need a squad if we want to win something."

However, Pellegrini assured Hart he will not be dropped on the basis of any isolated errors.

"I am not waiting for Joe Hart to make a mistake to change him for Willy Caballero," he added.

"Willy Caballero and Joe Hart know that I'm not waiting for Joe to make a first mistake and take out Joe Hart. Maybe last year Joe didn't start very well but he finished very well."

City face a tough week with a trip to Arsenal on Saturday followed by a midweek Champions League game at Bayern Munich before a visit from Chelsea, but Pellegrini would not be drawn on whether it would mark the start of any goalkeeper rotation.

"I really don't know, we'll see game by game. We'll play against Arsenal and one hour and 15 minutes before kick-off you will know which goalkeeper starts."

[Ted Hughes]

Don't know if Willy is better than Joe Hart or not but if you look at title winning sides over the years & compare the keepers, pretty much all of them had keepers who won & drew them several games per season, with heroic displays, when they were right up against it.

How many such games has Joe Hart won for City & how many times have we looked back afterwards & asked a question ?

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

He's beyond shite, Ted.

[Sideshow Bob]

Anyone have hart's ratio of saves to shots on goal?? Would wager its fucking abysmal compared to other keepers in PL.

[Original Dub]

Don't know if Willy is better than Joe Hart or not but if you look at title winning sides over the years & compare the keepers, pretty much all of them had keepers who won & drew them several games per season, with heroic displays, when they were right up against it.

How many such games has Joe Hart won for City & how many times have we looked back afterwards & asked a question ?

Opening day v spurs a few seasons ago and dortmund away couple of years ago.

Besides that I can't honestly say he was world class.

Great save v everton last season but you're right, he offers more questions these days than answers.

[blues2win]

Poor on the first goal today but can't be blamed for the second.

[Ted Hughes]

Don't know if Willy is better than Joe Hart or not but if you look at title winning sides over the years & compare the keepers, pretty much all of them had keepers who won & drew them several games per season, with heroic displays, when they were right up against it.

How many such games has Joe Hart won for City & how many times have we looked back afterwards & asked a question ?

Opening day v spurs a few seasons ago and dortmund away couple of years ago.

Besides that I can't honestly say he was world class.

Great save v everton last season but you're right, he offers more questions these days than answers.

Some are not cut & dried real awful stinkers, but it seems that there are question marks against quite a few of the goals we concede, not just from us fans but from ex pros etc.

Then we have the glaring fuckups from last season, which he took part in, even if he wasn't 100% culpable.

I recon if a young Peter Schmeichel had played the last two games for City, we would be 4 points better off.

[nottsblue]

Don't know if Willy is better than Joe Hart or not but if you look at title winning sides over the years & compare the keepers, pretty much all of them had keepers who won & drew them several games per season, with heroic displays, when they were right up against it.

How many such games has Joe Hart won for City & how many times have we looked back afterwards & asked a question ?

Opening day v spurs a few seasons ago and dortmund away couple of years ago.

Besides that I can't honestly say he was world class.

Great save v everton last season but you're right, he offers more questions these days than answers.

If the Answer is Joe Hart, what was the question? Is sure as fuck isn't 'who is the premier leagues best goalie?'

[DoomMerchant]

Don't know if Willy is better than Joe Hart or not but if you look at title winning sides over the years & compare the keepers, pretty much all of them had keepers who won & drew them several games per season, with heroic displays, when they were right up against it.

How many such games has Joe Hart won for City & how many times have we looked back afterwards & asked a question ?

Opening day v spurs a few seasons ago and dortmund away couple of years ago.

Besides that I can't honestly say he was world class.

Great save v everton last season but you're right, he offers more questions these days than answers.

If the Answer is Joe Hart, what was the question? Is sure as fuck isn't 'who is the premier leagues best goalie?'

No. Its:

who's the blonde cunt footballer with dandruff?

[MaineRoadMemories]

It's got to a point with me now that I have little confidence in him saving any semi decent powerful shot on target. Shot stopping used to be his main attribute.

[zuricity]

Not sure why Hart thought he had to make a Star shape for Wilshite's goal. He just needed to close up by the near post and stay on his feet.