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If both were an option for us, which one would you prefer to see in a Blue shirt? And why, if you care to mention.

Looks 100% Hummels then. Cut and dried.

The Mangler because he seems to suit our style of play better.

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:The Mangler because he seems to suit our style of play better.

Does he? Do Porto play the high line or is that Dortmund's game?

As the Mangala deal is done, and Hummels isn't for sale anyway despite what the Rag loving media would have you believe, this isn't a subject worth debating.

Goaters 103 wrote:As the Mangala deal is done, and Hummels isn't for sale anyway despite what the Rag loving media would have you believe, this isn't a subject worth debating.

Close thread.

From watching him last season Beefy, albeit only in Europa League, he reminds me of Kompany when he first rocked up at City, all the right attributes but can be a bit rash in his decision making.

I think pace is an important factor when it comes to playing in Pellegrini's high risk system and that's where my doubts with Hummels would lie. If for example we were still playing Mancini's more withdrawn style then I'd probably vote for Hummels.

hummels or vermaelen?
to partner jones or smalling...

Nigels Tackle wrote:hummels or vermaelen?
to deputise for jones and smalling...

Fixed your post.

Hummels is a good player, but he ain't all that. He's very, very slow and one of those kinda passive 'cultured' defenders who gets away with a lot cos he's cool and plays for a hipster team. Helps that he's incredibly good looking too i guess. He's like a better Vertonghen or Nastasic but both of them are naff anyway. Hummels got done for pace a fair few times for the German team and it was a bit embarrassing how slowly he turned.

Mangala seems raw as fuck, but he's at least a bit of a beast and I think he'll suit our system.

I voted for the mangler as he appears to be the man wanted by the club and I'm trusting their judgment.

Joleon isnt fast and IMHO him and Vinny were one of our best partnerships,Vinny would cover Hummels lack of real pace.

If you're intelligent you can read the game.

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:From watching him last season Beefy, albeit only in Europa League, he reminds me of Kompany when he first rocked up at City, all the right attributes but can be a bit rash in his decision making.

I think pace is an important factor when it comes to playing in Pellegrini's high risk system and that's where my doubts with Hummels would lie. If for example we were still playing Mancini's more withdrawn style then I'd probably vote for Hummels.

Firstly, I'm not sure where this assertion that Hummels is a donkey comes from. I'm fairly certain that if he had a foot race with DM then there'd only be one outcome, and we've all seen how DM can manage without pace. I shouldn't have to mention Hummels attributes, they speak for themselves, but I'd rather see someone who can read the game, get into position and cut out any threat that somebody who can get to the halfway line a second quicker. I also think that of we had Hummels next to Vinnie we'd have the best CB pairing in the world.

This all hypothetical of course and I can't see Dortmund letting him go for anywhere near what the papers are saying. Double it and add a few quid on top and they'd be a little closer and if it was me, I'd be spending the money there rather than Mangala. Not to say Mangala cannot be as good in our team, just that I rate Hummels as one of the best CB in the business, and he's got a lot o time to spare.

lovecity8utd wrote:I voted for the mangler as he appears to be the man wanted by the club and I'm trusting their judgment.

But would prefer London to Manchester.

Just a point of note. I'm expecting a huge response for Manny as he is the one linked with us as well as Hummels to the Rags. If we get any kind of objective debate I'd be very surprised.

Thinking about it, I may have a scan on 'Hummels' and see what that brings, the same as Mangala pre-possible City move.

Beefymcfc wrote:Just a point of note. I'm expecting a huge response for Manny as he is the one linked with us as well as Hummels to the Rags. If we get any kind of objective debate I'd be very surprised.

Thinking about it, I may have a scan on 'Hummels' and see what that brings, the same as Mangala pre-possible City move.

So basically, because some people have said something other than what you want to hear you've decided that most are just biased and not objective, like you - an entirely objective poster (obviously) who hasn't brought any preconceptions at all about other people's opinions into this thread?

If only we could all be as unbiased and as objective as you....

twosips wrote:

Beefymcfc wrote:Just a point of note. I'm expecting a huge response for Manny as he is the one linked with us as well as Hummels to the Rags. If we get any kind of objective debate I'd be very surprised.

Thinking about it, I may have a scan on 'Hummels' and see what that brings, the same as Mangala pre-possible City move.

So basically, because some people have said something other than what you want to hear you've decided that most are just biased and not objective, like you - an entirely objective poster (obviously) who hasn't brought any preconceptions at all about other people's opinions into this thread?

If only we could all be as unbiased and as objective as you....

Don't be silly, I'm as bad as the next man and am touting Hummels over Mangala. I thought that was obvious.

But by your response ........

Also, how many of us have actually watched Mangala on a regular basis, who can really judge on his attributes apart from watching Youtube or reading Wiki?

I'll openly admit that I'd never really heard of him until he was linked with us last year.

I don't disagree with the point made about reading the game or that Hummels is an top class defender but just feel having watched both that Mangala would be a better fit for us.

Can I ask Beefy, have you seen much of Mangala?

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:I don't disagree with the point made about reading the game or that Hummels is an top class defender but just feel having watched both that Mangala would be a better fit for us.

Can I ask Beefy, have you seen much of Mangala?

No, not much at all mate, as mentioned above. I have no issues with Mangala and from his photo he looks like a thoroughly likeable chap but when it comes down to it many on here have always put experience and class over talent.

Mangala looks a decent talent and looks like he has a better chance than most to make it at the top level but if I had a choice of one of the best CBs in the world partnering Vinnie or one of the possible best CBs in the world then I know who I'd choose.

I also believe that Hummels would make an excellent foil for Vinnie who likes to get forward when needed, covering that area and backing up his CB partner no end.

As I said, it's hypothetical as I think the Rag link is tenuous at best, it's just the thought that Manny would be seen as a better option over a player of Hummels ability.

Mangala must have shown real class to those who regularly watch him, that's all I can say.