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AntMcfc wrote:

AntMcfc wrote:I hate to say it but it's time that Pellegrini was selective as when to play Zaba. He's been so poor defensively when up against a half decent wide player, Sagna is a much better defender. Gervinho ruined him, Hazard ruins him every time he plays against him. He's crucial to our attacking system but you can't let someone like Gervinho run riot against you.

Time for Zaba to be demoted to second choice. Sagna is better.

I think we need to see more of Sagna before making sweeping statements like this

He's been playing in the PL for years. Nothing new to see, he's a brilliant defender, much better than Zabaleta.

Except sagna now runs like he is dragging a lodestone behind him. Haven't seen a slower fullback on the turn since Corluka.

AntMcfc wrote:He's been playing in the PL for years. Nothing new to see, he's a brilliant defender, much better than Zabaleta.

It's time to lay off the sherry - work again soon

AntMcfc wrote:He's been playing in the PL for years. Nothing new to see, he's a brilliant defender, much better than Zabaleta.

have we seen this at City? Cos I've not.

AntMcfc wrote:He's been playing in the PL for years. Nothing new to see, he's a brilliant defender, much better than Zabaleta.

I don't watch other games or teams so haven't seen anything of him, from what I have seen so far I would start Zab ahead of him.

zabba is a city legend (imho) who has always proved his worth, and is by no means past it. he can have some mistakes, because usually he gives us quite the opposite.

sagna is a fine backup, not a replacement.

AntMcfc wrote:

AntMcfc wrote:I hate to say it but it's time that Pellegrini was selective as when to play Zaba. He's been so poor defensively when up against a half decent wide player, Sagna is a much better defender. Gervinho ruined him, Hazard ruins him every time he plays against him. He's crucial to our attacking system but you can't let someone like Gervinho run riot against you.

Time for Zaba to be demoted to second choice. Sagna is better.

Is that you Rag Hater?

Zabba is below par this season defensively, but stil having an effect getting forward.

I think it's down to having no cover last season, & the World Cup. Should be fine next season.

Sagna has done well recently imo but Zabba is Zabba & he's a talisman for the team. Made at least as many mistakes as Clichy though, but people don't want to see faults in him.

Still, he will turn in some big performances if we go on a title winning run, as will Yaya. Bank on it. Two Champs.

Ted Hughes wrote:Zabba is below par this season defensively, but stil having an effect getting forward.

I think it's down to having no cover last season, & the World Cup. Should be fine next season.

Sagna has done well recently imo but Zabba is Zabba & he's a talisman for the team. Made at least as many mistakes as Clichy though, but people don't want to see faults in him.

Still, he will turn in some big performances if we go on a title winning run, as will Yaya. Bank on it. Two Champs.

Problem is for all the fullbacks, you can't expect them to sprint the length of the pitch in attack, then get back and be fully on it immediately. As much as I'm critical of Kolarov part of his problems may be that he's a lot bigger than Clichy or Zaba and needs a lot more recovery time, hence the wandering back.

If you want overlapping full backs, the wide midfielders and the defensive midfielder have to be willing to fill in. That's a particular problem on the left, where we haven't got a natural winger and none of the central midfielder are left footed and hence tend to drift the other way. Makes it exciting, but we're always at risk on the counter, hence why Chelsea are better at attacking and defending than we are ;-)

I think Mangala's left footed isn't he? I agree with you that full back is arguably the most demanding position on the pitch these days. As for Zaba he can be incredibly effective going forward but he has made numerous defensive howlers this season including one yesterday. Sagna looks better defensively but not as good going forward. I still think he's a damn good back up right back.

Didn't know where else to put this. Cool picture of Pablo and Messi 10 years ago:

Holy shit.

Cocacolajojo wrote:Didn't know where else to put this. Cool picture of Pablo and Messi 10 years ago:

combine the pair of them and you get peter beardsley

Nigels Tackle wrote:

Cocacolajojo wrote:Didn't know where else to put this. Cool picture of Pablo and Messi 10 years ago:

combine the pair of them and you get peter beardsley

Pablo is like an Argie Matthew McConaughey in that pic. Alright alright alright.

Cheers

Messi looks like Gerard Depardieu.

Tokyo Blue wrote:Messi looks like Gerard Depardieu.

More like Gerard Depardick. He looks like an actual penis. Circumcised.

Cheers

Pablo has his work cut out to get back into the side, Sagna has been very very good so far.

Slim wrote:Except sagna now runs like he is dragging a lodestone behind him. Haven't seen a slower fullback on the turn since Corluka.

You mean apart from Zaba!

sheblue wrote:Pablo has his work cut out to get back into the side, Sagna has been very very good so far.

Proper competition at last. Sagna has done well.