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mr_nool wrote:

Beefymcfc wrote:

mr_nool wrote:All of you comparing Fern 1 and 2 with Barry and Nigle forget that they most of the time were playing together in a defensive midfield partnership. Fern 1 and 2 usually ate Asked to do the same job on their own.

That's the difference between Mancini and the Count. And don't forget how you all used to hate Mancini's overly defensive approach.

There is no comparison, Barry did all their jobs on his own, Fernando doesn't quite fulfil one.

Barry was certainly better with the ball than both Ferns. I always thought he was quite underrated in that respect. He was also fantastic at reading the game and sussing out dangers. I loved Barry!
Unfortunately he was too slow to protect the back four on his own, which is most of the time asked of our defensive midfielder nowadays (not counting Yaya, since he's got a get out of jail card for that).
Fern 1 and 2 both have the athleticism and pace to do that, but especially Fernando is lacking some football skills. However, I do think he will look more at place when he gets used to the immense tempo of the Premier League.

what we need is a pacey Barry! I believe the Flash is called Barry, I wonder if he can play football?

Barry was absolutely not better with the ball.than Fernandinho. He can only kick with 1 foot ffs!

If he was pushed onto his right foot he had to pass backwards. Possibly the best at reading a game & solving problems I've seen, but better as a footballer than Fernandinho ? Not in a million years.

Ted Hughes wrote:Barry was absolutely not better with the ball.than Fernandinho. He can only kick with 1 foot ffs!

If he was pushed onto his right foot he had to pass backwards. Possibly the best at reading a game & solving problems I've seen, but better as a footballer than Fernandinho ? Not in a million years.

Barry was/is very one-footed, but the foot he's got is a sweet one.
He did get caught in possession a few times, but I still think he had better awareness of what was happening around him than both the Ferns, and thus was "better with the ball" (meaning that he was a better outlet for the back four, and better at moving the ball forward). I don't disagree with the fact that Fernandinho is better technically than Barry, but Barry used his technique better.

mr_nool wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:Barry was absolutely not better with the ball.than Fernandinho. He can only kick with 1 foot ffs!

If he was pushed onto his right foot he had to pass backwards. Possibly the best at reading a game & solving problems I've seen, but better as a footballer than Fernandinho ? Not in a million years.

Barry was/is very one-footed, but the foot he's got is a sweet one.
He did get caught in possession a few times, but I still think he had better awareness of what was happening around him than both the Ferns, and thus was "better with the ball" (meaning that he was a better outlet for the back four, and better at moving the ball forward). I don't disagree with the fact that Fernandinho is better technically than Barry, but Barry used his technique better.

I don't think Barry would be better on the ball in this team. He would be under more pressure.

But Fernandinho wasn't bought on the strength of his performances in Barry's position. He had a Barry type player sitting behind him. A good one as well. He has never had a run at City in his real position. Just gets one game then dropped as he's 'obviously not good enough' even though he was one of the best in Europe at Shakhtar.

Ted Hughes wrote:

mr_nool wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:Barry was absolutely not better with the ball.than Fernandinho. He can only kick with 1 foot ffs!

If he was pushed onto his right foot he had to pass backwards. Possibly the best at reading a game & solving problems I've seen, but better as a footballer than Fernandinho ? Not in a million years.

Barry was/is very one-footed, but the foot he's got is a sweet one.
He did get caught in possession a few times, but I still think he had better awareness of what was happening around him than both the Ferns, and thus was "better with the ball" (meaning that he was a better outlet for the back four, and better at moving the ball forward). I don't disagree with the fact that Fernandinho is better technically than Barry, but Barry used his technique better.

I don't think Barry would be better on the ball in this team. He would be under more pressure.

But Fernandinho wasn't bought on the strength of his performances in Barry's position. He had a Barry type player sitting behind him. A good one as well. He has never had a run at City in his real position. Just gets one game then dropped as he's 'obviously not good enough' even though he was one of the best in Europe at Shakhtar.

Barry brought a more than both to the team in a sense he knew what was needed amongst the spoilt brat brigade almost like a comfort blanket. The disjointed farce we see from our game as it breaks down into a thousand pieces when the heat is on is mental thing we cannot sort out with this group.The last manager tried.A bunch of players who have won stuff but look to have had peaked when they should be feared and onto a 4th League medal, No the best sides see us coming.

Fucking hell.

Barry was/is very one-footed, but the foot he's got is a sweet one.

Silva's only got one foot. Does not stop him from being a very good footballer either.

Ted Hughes wrote:Fucking hell.

Just what Porto said when the money hit the bank, along with who is up for a conga !!!

In my opinion the problem with Fernando is that he is not suited to a 2 man midfield.

A city 2 man midfield usually consists of Yay Ya Toure.It would be fair to say He doesn't like tracking back or defending. This leaves a huge gaps that Fernando has to cover on his own. That role would make any decent footballer look shit. He is not particularly quick either.

Fernado is more suited to a 3 man midfield with another other 2 players contributing their fare share. He was bought to break up opposition play in midfield. He did this well in Portugal hence they call him the Octopus.

Pellegrini has made all our decent players look shit with his system. Rocks like Kompany,Zabaletta look shot of confidence and carrying weight.

Up front "Charge Of The Light Brigade", in defence the "Alamo". It is ridiculous. Defensively we are a joke. Do we even bother practicing defending any more.

i thought today was his best game in awhile

Garcia was better , that is all .

fernando awful player, shit passer of the ball never does anything right piss poor, rich mans ged brannan

dick dastardley wrote:fernando awful player, shit passer of the ball never does anything right piss poor, rich mans ged brannan

Haha good to see he has got your support.


As it goes i also think he is shit.

I thought he was better versus Barca than Leicester!

Set for a timely return as Delph is out again and the matches are coming fast.
Palace might be too soon though, not sure

Saul Goodman wrote:Set for a timely return as Delph is out again and the matches are coming fast.
Palace might be too soon though, not sure

He won't be ready to start a game for a couple of weeks but at least he is back in the squad....

He says he's playing or I suppose training without pain for the first time for a year. We need him back.

blues2win wrote:He says he's playing or I suppose training without pain for the first time for a year. We need him back.

he said the same thing on tour and several hrs later he was on the treatment table for over a month
man needs to put a sock in it!

Not my favourite player by any stretch of the imagination but good to have him back with Delph out again.

Hate international breaks, seriously why did Delph have to play after being injured?

The sensible option would have to been to keep him involved and monitor his progress in training.No need to play him when he's basically only on the mend.

Back to Nando he's been useful at times but he's not improved the team at all, we've had similar types of players in recent times who have had much more to offer.

But apparently he was injured all last season so i would assume he didnt play his best.