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Re: Another kneejerk thread - this time kids
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Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:54 pmby Mase
twosips wrote: Then we didn't produce SWP or Richards then, you 'little mincer'... as long as you're willing to admit that then i'm happy to agree? ps - i type very quickly, that took me about two minutes...must be a mincing skill. EDIT - basically i think you're missing my point. I don't care whether they bought him, produced him or whatever. My point was that we should be able to take talented teenagers, wherever they come from, and teach them how we play and integrate them. Sterling is a good example of that whether you like it or not.
I'm glad we both agree Stevo. See you down canal street where I'll be blowing you kisses while you're holding hands with your boyfriend.
EDIT: while we're on about you and your boyfriend, I was in a bar tonight in Rome and only realised it was a gay bar until it was point out the bar was called 'Coming Out'. Fantastic place near to the Colosseum if you're ever around these parts.
Re: Another kneejerk thread - this time kids
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Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:05 pmby twosips
Cheers man. Great advice. Can't ever see myself in a place like Rome though, ya know? Bit too obvious for me. The kind of place where boring people go, much like yourself I'd presume.
I have been to Italy though - I once spent a lovely week in Cinque Terre, an idyllic and historic place in the north. I was with my then girlfriend too... alas, we split only a matter of weeks after that holiday for what i thought was nothing more than a simple case of the passing of time as our relationship slowly decayed as we grew apart.... maybe i was kidding myself and you just knew my secret persuasions all along? That aside, I'd recommend Cinque Terre, though - the views from the hills of manarola are beautiful and the walks around Riomaggiore are breathtaking.
And save your kisses for some other unfortunate soul. Be it straight or gay, I reckon i could do (and have done) a thousand times better than you sir.
Re: Another kneejerk thread - this time kids
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Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:05 pmby Mase
twosips wrote:Cheers man. Great advice. Can't ever see myself in a place like Rome though, ya know? Bit too obvious for me. The kind of place where boring people go, much like yourself I'd presume. I have been to Italy though - I once spent a lovely week in Cinque Terre, an idyllic and historic place in the north. I was with my then girlfriend too... alas, we split only a matter of weeks after that holiday for what i thought was nothing more than a simple case of the passing of time as our relationship slowly decayed as we grew apart.... maybe i was kidding myself and you just knew my secret persuasions all along? That aside, I'd recommend Cinque Terre, though - the views from the hills of manarola are beautiful and the walks around Riomaggiore are breathtaking. And save your kisses for some other unfortunate soul. Be it straight or gay, I reckon i could do (and have done) a thousand times better than you sir.
I didn't read most of that because I know most of it will be bollocks. I did however read the last bit about you doing better. Seen as though I know full well who you are in real life and not one some forum as you've tried getting in to an ex of mine I'd say no, you couldn't do better than me. Is right though because most likely I'll see you around Manchester; if not at a City match. And I cannot wait for the day that I do!!
Re: Another kneejerk thread - this time kids
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Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:25 pmby twosips
Genuinely no fucking clue what you're on about or who you are, but i've DM'd you anyway.
Re: Another kneejerk thread - this time kids
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Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:49 amby Herb
Mase wrote: I didn't read most of that because I know most of it will be bollocks. I did however read the last bit about you doing better. Seen as though I know full well who you are in real life and not one some forum as you've tried getting in to an ex of mine I'd say no, you couldn't do better than me. Is right though because most likely I'll see you around Manchester; if not at a City match. And I cannot wait for the day that I do!!
What is this - an obscure sexual preference group slapping contest? We don't care when you ferret your limp shit dippers so why don't you two "haters" take your spitty little bitch fight outside and stop boring those who joined this forum to ague the toss over football?
Re: Another kneejerk thread - this time kids
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Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:42 amby Crossie
I'd really like to see some home grown players coming through now, showing that extra bit of passion that some of our senior players seem to lack frequently.
Re: Another kneejerk thread - this time kids
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Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:19 amby Ted Hughes
The current kids are not yet good enough to play in this situation. Several would have been good enough to come off the bench earlier & join in the party, when we were 5 or 6 up.
If we had nobody else to turn to, then it's possible a kid may come in & suddenly rise to the occasion, but make no mistake; that is the ONLY reason any of them have had a game at Liverpool. If they had other options, they would have taken them.
Those who saw Lopez v West Ham in the cup, saw the promise of the potential he has. Those who saw him v Watford in FA Cup, saw the reason he isn't playing now.
Next season, we should forget the 'quadruple' shite, concentrate on the Prem & Champs Lg & blood more kids in the domestic cups & you lot should stop fucking moaning when he drops a top player & we lose to Wigan, grow enough brains to realise that not doing it enough is costing us big time now.
Re: Another kneejerk thread - this time kids
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Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:32 amby Foreverinbluedreams
How do you know they're not good enough Ted? You don't, no one does until we see them in this situation. I'd have Lopes on the bench this weekend and if I saw this going through the motions shit I saw last night from some I'd hook them and throw Lopes in.
Re: Another kneejerk thread - this time kids
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Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:51 amby dazby
Forget the kids. How about Micah, Rodders and Jojo getting some quality minutes.
Re: Another kneejerk thread - this time kids
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Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:24 amby Ted Hughes
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:How do you know they're not good enough Ted? You don't, no one does until we see them in this situation. I'd have Lopes on the bench this weekend and if I saw this going through the motions shit I saw last night from some I'd hook them and throw Lopes in.
Lopes by all accounts has just had an absolute stinker in the EDS Cup final 2nd leg. Why would he be rewarded with a first team game next ? What would he have brought to the table v West Brom apart from even worse defensive instability anyway ? We were winning for the whole game. We really need a kid dribbling at the halfway line, surrounded by WBA players ?
Fofana in a 3 man midfield would be the nearest to a realistic proposition imo. He is huge & can hit a ball even harder than Yaya Toure.
But we are (stupidly) only playing two in there anyway, so no place for him. Cole instead of Silva or Nasri or Aguero? Hiwula rather than Jovetic or Dzeko ? Ntcham for Fernandinho ? Why ?
Re: Another kneejerk thread - this time kids
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Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:40 amby Foreverinbluedreams
Ted Hughes wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:How do you know they're not good enough Ted? You don't, no one does until we see them in this situation. I'd have Lopes on the bench this weekend and if I saw this going through the motions shit I saw last night from some I'd hook them and throw Lopes in.
Lopes by all accounts has just had an absolute stinker in the EDS Cup final 2nd leg. Why would he be rewarded with a first team game next ? What would he have brought to the table v West Brom apart from even worse defensive instability anyway ? We were winning for the whole game. We really need a kid dribbling at the halfway line, surrounded by WBA players ?
Fofana in a 3 man midfield would be the nearest to a realistic proposition imo. He is huge & can hit a ball even harder than Yaya Toure.
But we are (stupidly) only playing two in there anyway, so no place for him. Cole instead of Silva or Nasri or Aguero? Hiwula rather than Jovetic or Dzeko ? Ntcham for Fernandinho ? Why ?
Why? It's simple really, give those that are fatigued a rest and put a bit of exuberance into the team. I'm not suggesting they start but really did hope to see more of them being slowly integrated this season.
For example, what did we gain by bringing Milner on last night? Nothing imo, give them minutes to a kid that's trying to prove himself, why not?
Re: Another kneejerk thread - this time kids
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Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:51 amby Ted Hughes
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:How do you know they're not good enough Ted? You don't, no one does until we see them in this situation. I'd have Lopes on the bench this weekend and if I saw this going through the motions shit I saw last night from some I'd hook them and throw Lopes in.
Lopes by all accounts has just had an absolute stinker in the EDS Cup final 2nd leg. Why would he be rewarded with a first team game next ? What would he have brought to the table v West Brom apart from even worse defensive instability anyway ? We were winning for the whole game. We really need a kid dribbling at the halfway line, surrounded by WBA players ?
Fofana in a 3 man midfield would be the nearest to a realistic proposition imo. He is huge & can hit a ball even harder than Yaya Toure.
But we are (stupidly) only playing two in there anyway, so no place for him. Cole instead of Silva or Nasri or Aguero? Hiwula rather than Jovetic or Dzeko ? Ntcham for Fernandinho ? Why ?
Why? It's simple really, give those that are fatigued a rest and put a bit of exuberance into the team. I'm not suggesting they start but really did hope to see more of them being slowly integrated this season.
For example, what did we gain by bringing Milner on last night? Nothing imo, give them minutes to a kid that's trying to prove himself, why not?
Because we are trying to win the title. It's a high pressure situation & most of the kids are nowhere near as good as Milner. (And he should have been playing as one of a 5 man midfield by then, anyway imo, not still 422
Re: Another kneejerk thread - this time kids
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Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:54 amby Foreverinbluedreams
Ted Hughes wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:How do you know they're not good enough Ted? You don't, no one does until we see them in this situation. I'd have Lopes on the bench this weekend and if I saw this going through the motions shit I saw last night from some I'd hook them and throw Lopes in.
Lopes by all accounts has just had an absolute stinker in the EDS Cup final 2nd leg. Why would he be rewarded with a first team game next ? What would he have brought to the table v West Brom apart from even worse defensive instability anyway ? We were winning for the whole game. We really need a kid dribbling at the halfway line, surrounded by WBA players ?
Fofana in a 3 man midfield would be the nearest to a realistic proposition imo. He is huge & can hit a ball even harder than Yaya Toure.
But we are (stupidly) only playing two in there anyway, so no place for him. Cole instead of Silva or Nasri or Aguero? Hiwula rather than Jovetic or Dzeko ? Ntcham for Fernandinho ? Why ?
Why? It's simple really, give those that are fatigued a rest and put a bit of exuberance into the team. I'm not suggesting they start but really did hope to see more of them being slowly integrated this season.
For example, what did we gain by bringing Milner on last night? Nothing imo, give them minutes to a kid that's trying to prove himself, why not?
Because we are trying to win the title. It's a high pressure situation & most of the kids are nowhere near as good as Milner. (And he should have been playing as one of a 5 man midfield by then, anyway imo, not still 422
But West Brom were offering no threat, they seemed content to just play out time. I'm not suggesting any of the kids are better than Milner but can't see why last night we couldn't have given one of them a chance to shine.
Re: Another kneejerk thread - this time kids
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Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:56 amby Ted Hughes
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:How do you know they're not good enough Ted? You don't, no one does until we see them in this situation. I'd have Lopes on the bench this weekend and if I saw this going through the motions shit I saw last night from some I'd hook them and throw Lopes in.
Lopes by all accounts has just had an absolute stinker in the EDS Cup final 2nd leg. Why would he be rewarded with a first team game next ? What would he have brought to the table v West Brom apart from even worse defensive instability anyway ? We were winning for the whole game. We really need a kid dribbling at the halfway line, surrounded by WBA players ?
Fofana in a 3 man midfield would be the nearest to a realistic proposition imo. He is huge & can hit a ball even harder than Yaya Toure.
But we are (stupidly) only playing two in there anyway, so no place for him. Cole instead of Silva or Nasri or Aguero? Hiwula rather than Jovetic or Dzeko ? Ntcham for Fernandinho ? Why ?
Why? It's simple really, give those that are fatigued a rest and put a bit of exuberance into the team. I'm not suggesting they start but really did hope to see more of them being slowly integrated this season.
For example, what did we gain by bringing Milner on last night? Nothing imo, give them minutes to a kid that's trying to prove himself, why not?
Because we are trying to win the title. It's a high pressure situation & most of the kids are nowhere near as good as Milner. (And he should have been playing as one of a 5 man midfield by then, anyway imo, not still 422
But West Brom were offering no threat, they seemed content to just play out time. I'm not suggesting any of the kids are better than Milner but can't see why last night we couldn't have given one of them a chance to shine.
Watch it again. WBA could easily have scored five or six last night. If they had scored one more, we would have fallen apart like we did v Sunderland.
Re: Another kneejerk thread - this time kids
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Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:00 amby Foreverinbluedreams
And we could've scored 7 or 8. They offered nothing by way of a fight in the second half, absolutely nothing, by the time Silva picked up that injury they had well given up the ghost.
Re: Another kneejerk thread - this time kids
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Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:05 amby Ted Hughes
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:And we could've scored 7 or 8. They offered nothing by way of a fight in the second half, absolutely nothing, by the time Silva picked up that injury they had well given up the ghost.
I recall Joe Hart diving full length to pull off a save & wave of noise going round the ground. Surely after seeing 'typical City' return v Sunderland, you recognise the potential ?
Re: Another kneejerk thread - this time kids
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Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:07 amby bayblue
We do have a medium term problem that Yaya and Silva will need replacing and more pertinently FFP is likely to remain so we are going to have to find a way to integrate some younger players, hopefully next season.
I really wouldn't do it now as we still have a chance in the league and we have made no progress this far in gradually integrating the kids.
Would much prefer Milner and Jovetic to be given chance to stretch their under-utilised legs.
Re: Another kneejerk thread - this time kids
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Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:18 amby Foreverinbluedreams
Ted Hughes wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:And we could've scored 7 or 8. They offered nothing by way of a fight in the second half, absolutely nothing, by the time Silva picked up that injury they had well given up the ghost.
I recall Joe Hart diving full length to pull off a save & wave of noise going round the ground. Surely after seeing 'typical City' return v Sunderland, you recognise the potential ?
Joe Hart pulling off a save? Come on Ted you're just making things up now. Yep I can see the potential alright, I'm just disappointed that we don't seem to be making any efforts over the course of the season to give the kids a chance, it's been the biggest disappointment for me this season.
Re: Another kneejerk thread - this time kids
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Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:43 amby Ted Hughes
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:And we could've scored 7 or 8. They offered nothing by way of a fight in the second half, absolutely nothing, by the time Silva picked up that injury they had well given up the ghost.
I recall Joe Hart diving full length to pull off a save & wave of noise going round the ground. Surely after seeing 'typical City' return v Sunderland, you recognise the potential ?
Joe Hart pulling off a save? Come on Ted you're just making things up now. Yep I can see the potential alright, I'm just disappointed that we don't seem to be making any efforts over the course of the season to give the kids a chance, it's been the biggest disappointment for me this season.
Me too but I think it will change next season. I'm hoping in the cups especially. I would say though, that most of the kids who do get a sniff will be closer in two seasons rather than next. They are still closer to being kids than proper footballers for me, & are not Peter Barnes types who beat 5 & score or Micah types who are physically outstanding, thus can make a huge impact that way although Cole is good running with the ball, so may step up a level in the summer.
Fofana is enormous though & possibly has the hardest shot in the country.
I can imagine Brandon Barker from the U18s being a Peter Barnes type impact player in the near future & being fast tracked to the first team. He can beat players for fun.
Re: Another kneejerk thread - this time kids
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Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:12 pmby littlebig
Not a chance for the remainder of this season, not while we're still in with a chance to take the title.
The reason is because MP is under pressure to, if not win the title, then, at least to finish strongly.
This issue of bringing yougsters through will probably need to be addressed by the directors laying out expectations for MP ie we want to see you blood some youngsters in at least x number of games.
You can understand MP wanting to play his strongest hand considering the pressure to get results and using youngsters is risky