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Burt wrote:

Rag_hater wrote:It seems to upset the brainiacs on here a lot when I quote somebody wrong (so I am trying to keep it to a minimum), and the stuff about the song seems to be the thing I think is wrong with attitude of the crowd. Most refs are probably shit but I think the game would be far worse without them.

Ref's are supposed to be "Professionals" and are paid quite well to do their job correctly. When they don't................it fuckin pisses people off big time.

It isn't too much to ask for them to do it constistantly is it?

Burt wrote:

Rag_hater wrote:It seems to upset the brainiacs on here a lot when I quote somebody wrong (so I am trying to keep it to a minimum), and the stuff about the song seems to be the thing I think is wrong with attitude of the crowd. Most refs are probably shit but I think the game would be far worse without them.

Ref's are supposed to be "Professionals" and are paid quite well to do their job correctly. When they don't................it fuckin pisses people off big time.

It isn't too much to ask for them to do it constistantly is it?

Ironpot wrote:QUESTIONABLE CLATTENBURG
Mark Clattenburg's appointment for this game was spun as a snub for Howard Webb in some quarters, when Webb has been an erratic official since the infamous 2010 World Cup final. Webb is also risibly reviled by Liverpool supporters for his perceived bias towards Manchester United, although Clattenburg, too, has a history with Liverpool that stems from taking advice from Steven Gerrard to send Tony Hibbert off in a 2007 Merseyside derby.

His performance at Anfield was execrable. Edin Džeko and Daniel Sturridge were both denied obvious penalties while Luis Suárez should have received a second yellow card for cheating. Pablo Zabaleta's trip on Sturridge came after the Suárez incident in what was the clichéd evening-it-up decision by a referee who also missed Martin Skrtel's handball inside his own area in stoppage-time.


Says all you need to know - courtesy of the Huffington Post!

Rag_hater wrote:Don't think it is right to pick out mistakes using replays when the actual incident has to be decided upon in real time.

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:

Rag_hater wrote:Don't think it is right to pick out mistakes using replays when the actual incident has to be decided upon in real time.

Ah but we regular Joes aren't standing on the pitch within yards of the incidents, we don't have the same vantage points as a ref has and we haven't been trained to spot these incidents in real time.

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Ah but we regular Joes aren't standing on the pitch within yards of the incidents, we don't have the same vantage points as a ref has and we haven't been trained to spot these incidents in real time.

zuricity wrote:

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Ah but we regular Joes aren't standing on the pitch within yards of the incidents, we don't have the same vantage points as a ref has and we haven't been trained to spot these incidents in real time.

Indeed. Suarez jumping at Clichy and sticking his arse into his side knocking him to the floor, is a foul . At that time it wasn't certain that Sterling would go ahead and score. Clearly Clattenberg can be seen waving it on from less than two metres away . What was he thinking ?

The other week Yaya pulled a soton player back and was rightly booked for his stupidity.

It isn't just about dirty tackles. It's like when the players raise their arms shield the ball trying to let it run out of play. That is obstruction.

Wonderwall wrote:
what about the one where Silva was at the edge of the box and jumps for a header and Suarez crouches down and backs into silva which forced silva to roll over the top of suarez as he was already in the air. To me it was definite City free kick outside their box, I was gobsmacked he gave a freekick to Loverpool, that to me was a telling sign that he was swayed towards them.

zuricity wrote:

Wonderwall wrote:
what about the one where Silva was at the edge of the box and jumps for a header and Suarez crouches down and backs into silva which forced silva to roll over the top of suarez as he was already in the air. To me it was definite City free kick outside their box, I was gobsmacked he gave a freekick to Loverpool, that to me was a telling sign that he was swayed towards them.

There were many examples of very poor ref decision making on sunday.

Both for and against City.

How much verbal abuse did Clat accept from Suarez ?

The handball at the end was however pretty bad.

zuricity wrote:

Wonderwall wrote:
what about the one where Silva was at the edge of the box and jumps for a header and Suarez crouches down and backs into silva which forced silva to roll over the top of suarez as he was already in the air. To me it was definite City free kick outside their box, I was gobsmacked he gave a freekick to Loverpool, that to me was a telling sign that he was swayed towards them.

There were many examples of very poor ref decision making on sunday.

Both for and against City.

How much verbal abuse did Clat accept from Suarez ?

The handball at the end was however pretty bad.

Rag_hater wrote:The handball at the end. I didn't like all our players, know about until a few minutes after.You bringing up Saurez arse into Gael is the first time I have heard it being mentioned as a foul,if it was,well done for spotting it,although it seems you might be the only one however having watched the REPLAY on the OS I don't think it's a foul.

Rag_hater wrote:
The handball at the end. I didn't like all our players, know about until a few minutes after.You bringing up Saurez arse into Gael is the first time I have heard it being mentioned as a foul,if it was,well done for spotting it,although it seems you might be the only one however having watched the REPLAY on the OS I don't think it's a foul.

zuricity wrote:

Rag_hater wrote:
The handball at the end. I didn't like all our players, know about until a few minutes after.You bringing up Saurez arse into Gael is the first time I have heard it being mentioned as a foul,if it was,well done for spotting it,although it seems you might be the only one however having watched the REPLAY on the OS I don't think it's a foul.

Just because it is the first time you have heard of it, doesn't mean that it wasn't a foul.

Beefymcfc wrote:

zuricity wrote:

Rag_hater wrote:
The handball at the end. I didn't like all our players, know about until a few minutes after.You bringing up Saurez arse into Gael is the first time I have heard it being mentioned as a foul,if it was,well done for spotting it,although it seems you might be the only one however having watched the REPLAY on the OS I don't think it's a foul.

Just because it is the first time you have heard of it, doesn't mean that it wasn't a foul.

Raggers wouldn't have noticed as he probably didn't see the game.

patrickblue wrote: That isn't the point at all. There are no ifs and buts. The officials didn't do their job correctly. The point actually is that you are being holier than thou and accusing everyone who disagrees with you of refusing to accept faults in City's game and "taking the easy way out" as you so sanctimoniously put it. No-one is suggesting that City played a perfect game or the only reason we lost is because of poor refereeing decisions (or at least I'm not, and I've not seen anyone else doing so). This thread is about the referee, which is why it's entitled "The Ref", and anyone who can say that was even an adequate performance by the officials needs to go to specsavers.