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would have been better off injured

could be out for the remainder of the season says Pellegrini.
blessing in disguise?

Step forward Captain Yaya...................

seriously though, losing VK for the rest of the season doesn't bother me and it would give Mangala a much needed run of 6 games

dave watson's perm wrote:
seriously though, losing VK for the rest of the season doesn't bother me and it would give Mangala a much needed run of 6 games

Me neither. Will do world of good for mangler to get that run of games (just watch him get sent off now lol)

Moonchesteri wrote:

dave watson's perm wrote:
seriously though, losing VK for the rest of the season doesn't bother me and it would give Mangala a much needed run of 6 games

Me neither. Will do world of good for mangler to get that run of games (just watch him get sent off now lol)

just put this in the defensive Stats, but last time Kompany was injured, he only came back for 1 game in the middle of this spell of 10 games, but we recorded 8 wins and 2 draws!

Wonderwall wrote:

Moonchesteri wrote:

dave watson's perm wrote:
seriously though, losing VK for the rest of the season doesn't bother me and it would give Mangala a much needed run of 6 games

Me neither. Will do world of good for mangler to get that run of games (just watch him get sent off now lol)

just put this in the defensive Stats, but last time Kompany was injured, he only came back for 1 game in the middle of this spell of 10 games, but we recorded 8 wins and 2 draws!

If it happens again then we know Boiled Head Carl has a point.

Ted Hughes wrote:

Wonderwall wrote:

Moonchesteri wrote:

dave watson's perm wrote:
seriously though, losing VK for the rest of the season doesn't bother me and it would give Mangala a much needed run of 6 games

Me neither. Will do world of good for mangler to get that run of games (just watch him get sent off now lol)

just put this in the defensive Stats, but last time Kompany was injured, he only came back for 1 game in the middle of this spell of 10 games, but we recorded 8 wins and 2 draws!

If it happens again then we know Boiled Head Carl has a point.

we run the table and we should sell him to any fucking cunt who wants him.

FACT.

if kompany ever leaves, it will be well past his sell-by date. Whether that's good or bad, it's up to Vinnie.

He's had a dip in form this season, we don't know the circumstances of stuff behind the scenes, but I'm more troubled by his attitude and demeanor at times. I think he can turn it around, and if/when he and mangala click as a unit, we'll have a very strong defence.

I'm glad that Mangala has been used sparingly, especially with the form we have been in ... had the potential to absolutely destroy his confidence in a new league. As it is, I think he has everything to prove, and a desire to do so. He certainly did not look shy in his appearance vs. United, even if he did make some mistakes, I don't think he was bad ... he certainly couldn't help Mata being offsides yet not being called for it.

Send him off on holiday now,play Mangler till the end of the season, then start them together next year with MDM and Denayer in reserve.

That just leaves the full backs to sort out.

Does that mean Yaya is captain then?

i'd make joe hart captain and just leave it

nottsblue wrote:Does that mean Yaya is captain then?

sad times if he is

kinkylola wrote:i'd make joe hart captain and just leave it

totally agree

If we assume that the default of Yaya is unpalatable maybe Silva could step up. A senior player and the extra responsibility might boost his game. Rather like beckscum.

Nigels Tackle wrote:

kinkylola wrote:i'd make joe hart captain and just leave it

totally agree

that's a no brainer.

I think it's more likely yaya sits a coupla matches than has the armband.

cheers

kinkylola wrote:if kompany ever leaves, it will be well past his sell-by date. Whether that's good or bad, it's up to Vinnie.

He's had a dip in form this season, we don't know the circumstances of stuff behind the scenes, but I'm more troubled by his attitude and demeanor at times. I think he can turn it around, and if/when he and mangala click as a unit, we'll have a very strong defence.

I'm glad that Mangala has been used sparingly, especially with the form we have been in ... had the potential to absolutely destroy his confidence in a new league. As it is, I think he has everything to prove, and a desire to do so. He certainly did not look shy in his appearance vs. United, even if he did make some mistakes, I don't think he was bad ... he certainly couldn't help Mata being offsides yet not being called for it.

You're watchin with blue tinted specs on r kid.

You say he has had a dip in form this season, you're right, he has. Unfortunately, that dip in form this year comes from a player who was playing shit anyway, and even in the title season was the 2nd best centre half

So we have a player playing poorly for 2/3 years who has recently started playing even shitter than that.

I reckon most who defend kompany would have been the same ones who wanted to keep Balotelli cos he scored in the cup final 3 yrs ago

"We should keep him cos he's a blue"
"He is the best captain iny lifetime"
"Best defender I've ever seen"

Put those comments against the cold light of day, and ion struggling to think of a single reason why he should stay

Im_Spartacus wrote:
I reckon most who defend kompany would have been the same ones who wanted to keep Balotelli cos he scored in the cup final 3 yrs ago

Which cup final was that??

Fit to face Wales.

Im_Spartacus wrote:

kinkylola wrote:if kompany ever leaves, it will be well past his sell-by date. Whether that's good or bad, it's up to Vinnie.

He's had a dip in form this season, we don't know the circumstances of stuff behind the scenes, but I'm more troubled by his attitude and demeanor at times. I think he can turn it around, and if/when he and mangala click as a unit, we'll have a very strong defence.

I'm glad that Mangala has been used sparingly, especially with the form we have been in ... had the potential to absolutely destroy his confidence in a new league. As it is, I think he has everything to prove, and a desire to do so. He certainly did not look shy in his appearance vs. United, even if he did make some mistakes, I don't think he was bad ... he certainly couldn't help Mata being offsides yet not being called for it.

You're watchin with blue tinted specs on r kid.

You say he has had a dip in form this season, you're right, he has. Unfortunately, that dip in form this year comes from a player who was playing shit anyway, and even in the title season was the 2nd best centre half

So we have a player playing poorly for 2/3 years who has recently started playing even shitter than that.

I reckon most who defend kompany would have been the same ones who wanted to keep Balotelli cos he scored in the cup final 3 yrs ago

"We should keep him cos he's a blue"
"He is the best captain iny lifetime"
"Best defender I've ever seen"

Put those comments against the cold light of day, and ion struggling to think of a single reason why he should stay

I don't think I said anything outrageous, Vinnie has done well for us. He's been an important part of winning teams, and made good partnerships with people. He has all the talent, not just the physical attributes, to be among the best defenders in the world ... This season his attitude has been shit and he has added poor decision making to his game, which is regrettable.

He simply has not been playing "poorly for 2/3 years," and as you accuse me of having blue tinted specs on, I'd say your comments are coming mostly from frustration ... which is understandable. You can argue about who the defensive "stars" were in those 2/3 years ... many would say Lescott, who has hardly set the world alight since leaving. You can run through the list of players who were in that defensive unit, up through to midfield ... none are now really covering themselves in glory. Vinnie was part of a successful, balanced defensive unit ... he played his role, he did it well and the world took notice.

I want the vinnie that fit in with a balanced defense, played his role, however important, and fought with passion. That is why my main point is about his attitude. He seems like he's playing within himself, believing his own hype and just generally over-confident ... in short, he is not a team player at the moment, and unbalances the team ... along with several other players we are carrying.

Mase wrote:

Im_Spartacus wrote:
I reckon most who defend kompany would have been the same ones who wanted to keep Balotelli cos he scored in the cup final 3 yrs ago

Which cup final was that??

I dunno. One that Liverpool might be in? A coppa Italia. Who fucking knows.

Regardless, his points about Vinny are spot fucking on. Second best CB in both of our title winning seasons and past his best. He needs to be sold. We have to be dispassionate about this stuff. Bacon would be selling him after the last two seasons. And he rarely fucked those decisions up as much as it pains to admit.

Cheers