Demichelis - A Liability?

[carl_feedthegoat]

From my point of view, I don't think Vinnie's happy with either Nasti or Demi.

I bet Demi is not happy with Vinnie for palying messi on...food for thought!!

If Vinny had been ten yards further forward, Demichelis still wouldn't have known where Messi was.

True , but my point being that Vinnie gets away with a lot of justifiable criticism that should be aimed at him and Demi probably feels the same.

True.

But that's because you have already told everybody it was down to Lescott.

True.

[hartfordsheartbeat]

After every game he plays the common theme amongst posters is "up until then he had played well" or "I thought he was having a good game until". I don't trust him, the majority at the ground doesn't trust him and most damning of all Vinny doesn't trust him. Unfortunately the only man that does trust him is the one man that matters and that will cost us, make no mistake.

Well. We have someone on the inside reporting, I didn't think we had such esteemed visitors to this site. Was it during a training break that Vinny had a quiet word with you to say he dosen't trust Demi, or were you over at his house one night for a post match barbie? Perhaps if you give us an incy wincy clue as to the validity of that statement, people might believe it, and more importantly, you.

As for the majority of the ground", well if you mean on the forum, you don't have the majority vote, or did you pick a specific match and speak to every individual in conducting your survey? If you mean the team, was it during a team chat when Demi slipped out for a piss because they would be too embarrased to say it in front of him?

The man that does trust him has a far superior football brain than the sum of the individuals who frequent this site, and if he trusts him, so should we.

If Demi is past his best (which I wouldn't argue against), he doesn't go out with the intention of "oh, I'll shaft the team today", he goes out and does the best to his ability. If that ability isn't up to the standards we need, that his not his fault

So, again to summarise. You are trying to gain more support for the lets stick the knife into Demi by throwing out stupid statements that you cannot conceivably qualify. Bottom line is we lost a match because of a series of events that went against us leading to the first goal, Demi just happened to be at the end of the chain. No wait, its Joe's fault cause he never saved the penalty.

I care little whether you believe what I say or not. if you are happy with Demi playing that's entirely up to you. You are entitled to your opinion same way as I'm entitled to mine and mine is that I'd rather he wasn't in the team. Pellegrini likes him as a player and seems to have some penchant for signing him, not the first manager to display this trait and almost certainly not the last. Doesn't mean he's a better option than Lescott just that the manager's displaying favoritism.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

I also think Kompany needs to be a bit more careful with these marauding forward runs with the ball. They look great when they come off and he beats a couple of men but he looks a tit when he gets tackled and puts us in danger and either him or someone else has to take a booking for the team.

Only about one time in ten, does one of his marauding runs end up with City in a better position than when he started it.

Absolutely. I love Vinnie but fucking hell those pointless runs make me pull my hair off. Only upside is that I always remember how Keegan was saying how he expected more forward runs from his centerbacks and that memory makes me smile.

[tc6828]

After every game he plays the common theme amongst posters is "up until then he had played well" or "I thought he was having a good game until". I don't trust him, the majority at the ground doesn't trust him and most damning of all Vinny doesn't trust him. Unfortunately the only man that does trust him is the one man that matters and that will cost us, make no mistake.

Well. We have someone on the inside reporting, I didn't think we had such esteemed visitors to this site. Was it during a training break that Vinny had a quiet word with you to say he dosen't trust Demi, or were you over at his house one night for a post match barbie? Perhaps if you give us an incy wincy clue as to the validity of that statement, people might believe it, and more importantly, you.

As for the majority of the ground", well if you mean on the forum, you don't have the majority vote, or did you pick a specific match and speak to every individual in conducting your survey? If you mean the team, was it during a team chat when Demi slipped out for a piss because they would be too embarrased to say it in front of him?

The man that does trust him has a far superior football brain than the sum of the individuals who frequent this site, and if he trusts him, so should we.

If Demi is past his best (which I wouldn't argue against), he doesn't go out with the intention of "oh, I'll shaft the team today", he goes out and does the best to his ability. If that ability isn't up to the standards we need, that his not his fault

So, again to summarise. You are trying to gain more support for the lets stick the knife into Demi by throwing out stupid statements that you cannot conceivably qualify. Bottom line is we lost a match because of a series of events that went against us leading to the first goal, Demi just happened to be at the end of the chain. No wait, its Joe's fault cause he never saved the penalty.

I care little whether you believe what I say or not. if you are happy with Demi playing that's entirely up to you. You are entitled to your opinion same way as I'm entitled to mine and mine is that I'd rather he wasn't in the team. Pellegrini likes him as a player and seems to have some penchant for signing him, not the first manager to display this trait and almost certainly not the last. Doesn't mean he's a better option than Lescott just that the manager's displaying favoritism.

Look. I have no issue with your opinions and whether we agree or not, that wasn't the point I was trying to make. My issue was that you claim to know that Vinny doesn't trust Demi. If that is the case, state your evidence and I will unreservedly apologise.

We are both on the same side but I take issue with ubstantiated quotes purportedly made from within the team.

[clippo22]

Just seen that Jan Vertongen has said he might leave spuds if they don't qualify for the chumps league. What are people's thoughts on him? I quite like him, he has his weaknesses but I would consider him an upgrade on what we currently have. A fellow country man as partner for vinnie, who is big, strong in the air, not too short of pace, can pick out a pass and is left footed. Think he would jump at the chance to join us, especially offering him a cb berth as he gets frustrated at being put at left back at spuds. Although that would be further cover for kola and clichy. Only in his mid twenties so still time to develop too.

[Ted Hughes]

Just seen that Jan Vertongen has said he might leave spuds if they don't qualify for the chumps league. What are people's thoughts on him? I quite like him, he has his weaknesses but I would consider him an upgrade on what we currently have. A fellow country man as partner for vinnie, who is big, strong in the air, not too short of pace, can pick out a pass and is left footed. Think he would jump at the chance to join us, especially offering him a cb berth as he gets frustrated at being put at left back at spuds. Although that would be further cover for kola and clichy. Only in his mid twenties so still time to develop too.

He is the kind of player we keep being linked with; dead slow, often goes missing at key times & thinks he can play football.

Absolutly the opposite of what we need imo, but I have a terrible fear we will end up with someone like him, or Agger who we are also often linked to. Hopefuly they are just leftovers from Mancini's scouting instructions, as he didn't care about pace in any position, but the thought of Vertonghen v people like Rooney & Suarez, when we are all caught forward attacking, scares the shit out of me.

I'd rather have Demichelis than the pair of them.

We need a quick fucker who can turn & defend 1v1.

[clippo22]

Who do you suggest?

[Ted Hughes]

Who do you suggest?

There's the question.

I can safely say, I haven't seen one single player who I've thought looks a great central defender, not in full games anyway. I don't rate either of Barca's, Bayern's, or Dortmund's for a start.

Of those linked, I think Pepe would have been a fantastic signing compared to the others linked. He's quick, experienced & a sly bastard. Managala looks fast & good in the air, but I've not seen much of him, nor some of the other names linked recently.

All the previous names who came up under Mancini; Hummels, Subotic, Agger, Vertonghen, Chiellini, Javi Martinez, were all varying degrees of slow. Thiago Silva was the only one I liked the look of.

I'm hoping our scouts get the right man & that they see the problem the same way I do; that we need someone quick & strong, then if they need a good ball player, add that to the list. If we sign a ball player who is slow, I think we will struggle to win trophies playing like Pellegrini wants.

[phips]

surely the backroom staff have to override Pellers and sell this clown

[Blue Since 76]

surely the backroom staff have to override Pellers and sell this clown

Sell him? Who's going to buy him? Henshaw's?

[ashton287]

How much would it cost to have him run over. Three or four times.

[TheBlueCatsWhiskers]

Demichellis is shot but he's not on his own.

[Lee_R]

Put it this way.. if Demi is a liability.. then so is Pellegrini for selecting him over and over again.

[Bear60]

[quote="Lee_R"]Put it this way.. if Demi is a liability.. then so is Pellegrini for selecting him over and over again.[/quote

Yes why cant Pellers see it when all of us and everyone else can beggars belief

[dick dastardley]

You bet your life hes a liability, he can fuck right off back to corned beef land and take clichy, richards and a few others with him

[Im_Spartacus]

Put it this way.. if Demi is a liability.. then so is Pellegrini for selecting him over and over again.[/quote

Yes why cant Pellers see it when all of us and everyone else can beggars belief

I can almost let him off for today with the Barcelona game coming up, he was always going to have to play him.

I'm pretty sure he will be a long way from the first team next season as this is the obvious spot for serious reinforcements, although seeing as we paid a fee for him, I assume we are stuck with him for at least another year as I can't see mention of the length of contract we gave him

[Beefymcfc]

I'm sure Mancini got slated for the same thing, they all have their fallibilities.

[Tim777]

Sell him? Who's going to buy him? Henshaw's?

I'm sure Moyes has his beady eyes on him as a replacement for Vidic.

[shawzy]

surely the backroom staff have to override Pellers and sell this clown

Sell him? Who's going to buy him? Henshaw's?

We sold Savic so anythings poss :-$

[MilnersJaw]

I liked how his name was booed at the start