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from f365.com's winners and losers column

Sergio Aguero
Despite recording their biggest top-flight win since 1968, the winners list has no place for Manchester City as a whole. We learned nothing of them that we didn't already know - this is a side always ruthless at home, often toothless away.

Aguero though, must be singled out for individual honours. Asked to plough a lone furrow at Stamford Bridge last week (and named man of the match in doing so), the Argentinean demonstrated an extra element to his game perhaps not before witnessed. Against Norwich on Saturday, and given a strike partner once more, this was a striker back to what he knows and does best. Bread and butter with a sprinkling of caviar, if you will.

Three assists and a goal took Aguero to that impressive of statuses - no Premier League player has either scored more or assisted more league goals this season - to be top of both lists highlights his immense quality. 18 goals either finished or created in his 12 games at club level this season is the record of a striker at the very peak of his powers.

So if City suddenly find some teeth away from home and show these bastions of punditry something they didnt know will they give City any credit?...otherwise there is no point if the view on City is entrenched...which seems the case. Anyway...Aguero...world class...yep 40mil hes off the mirror said so

Bianchi on Ice wrote:So if City suddenly find some teeth away from home and show these bastions of punditry something they didnt know will they give City any credit?...otherwise there is no point if the view on City is entrenched...which seems the case. Anyway...Aguero...world class...yep 40mil hes off the mirror said so

What F365 said is totally fair. Our away record is wank for a team of our quality. No agenda there.

Alioune DVToure wrote:

Bianchi on Ice wrote:So if City suddenly find some teeth away from home and show these bastions of punditry something they didnt know will they give City any credit?...otherwise there is no point if the view on City is entrenched...which seems the case. Anyway...Aguero...world class...yep 40mil hes off the mirror said so

What F365 said is totally fair. Our away record is wank for a team of our quality. No agenda there.

I know its poor, but if and when it turns around where will the analysis of that fact be?...it will be brushed away and instead itll be.."City beat palace 6-0at home but so what"...even when we won the league its as if we hadnt. Im not disputing that our away record isnt good enough. Its Dub...he brings out the media touchiness in me;-)

Bianchi on Ice wrote:
I know its poor, but if and when it turns around where will the analysis of that fact be?...it will be brushed away and instead itll be.."City beat palace 6-0 but so what"...even when we won the league its as if we hadnt. Im not disputing that our away record isnt good enough. Its Dub...he brings out the media touchiness in me;-)

F365 is a good website, though, in my opinion. Probably the best around. They kiss Arsenal's arses a bit bit they're generally quite evenhanded in their coverage of all clubs.

To be honest, yeah, if we do beat Palace 6-0 but then timidly lose away it is a case of 'so what?' - its totally pointless only winning at home. We shouldn't win awards or plaudits cos we can stuff shit teams at home.

My point is ifCity start winning away from home with style will it be reported as such and will they be given due credit?..ive read and heard too much to assume that we will...im a full on subscriber to the view that reporting on the club is not even handed.

Can't say I agree with that. If we start winning away too then yes, I think it'll be reported.

If we start winning away and Sergio keeps up is current form I don't care if they report it or not :-)

Hutch's Shoulder wrote:If we start winning away and Sergio keeps up is current form I don't care if they report it or not :-)

4 matches in a row away from home, won three of them.

We have started winning away from home.

Slim wrote: 4 matches in a row away from home, won three of them. We have started winning away from home.

Agreed. I meant consistently in the league.

Slim wrote:

Hutch's Shoulder wrote:If we start winning away and Sergio keeps up is current form I don't care if they report it or not :-)

4 matches in a row away from home, won three of them.

We have started winning away from home.

and one we shouldn't have lost

Oh it's another dig alright.

If we were as good away from home as we are at home, we'd have the title wrapped up already. This tells me that there is a distribution of points whereby the other top teams are just as "toothless" as us.

We did learn something about City on the weekend. We learned that we achieved one of the best premier league results ever recorded.

Publish that in your article bitch.

ant london wrote:from f365.com's winners and losers column

Sergio Aguero
Despite recording their biggest top-flight win since 1968, the winners list has no place for Manchester City as a whole. We learned nothing of them that we didn't already know - this is a side always ruthless at home, often toothless away.

Aguero though, must be singled out for individual honours. Asked to plough a lone furrow at Stamford Bridge last week (and named man of the match in doing so), the Argentinean demonstrated an extra element to his game perhaps not before witnessed. Against Norwich on Saturday, and given a strike partner once more, this was a striker back to what he knows and does best. Bread and butter with a sprinkling of caviar, if you will.

Three assists and a goal took Aguero to that impressive of statuses - no Premier League player has either scored more or assisted more league goals this season - to be top of both lists highlights his immense quality. 18 goals either finished or created in his 12 games at club level this season is the record of a striker at the very peak of his powers.

Interesting how many neutrals in football, & even the enemy (Neville etc) recon Serge is capable of way better than the form he has produced so far, even in his best season.

Quite a few have the opinion that he should be up there close to Ronaldo & Messi. Perhaps he is starting on that road ?

I think this could be hes best season in City ,to bad we have problems at back.

Ted Hughes wrote:

ant london wrote:from f365.com's winners and losers column

Sergio Aguero
Despite recording their biggest top-flight win since 1968, the winners list has no place for Manchester City as a whole. We learned nothing of them that we didn't already know - this is a side always ruthless at home, often toothless away.

Aguero though, must be singled out for individual honours. Asked to plough a lone furrow at Stamford Bridge last week (and named man of the match in doing so), the Argentinean demonstrated an extra element to his game perhaps not before witnessed. Against Norwich on Saturday, and given a strike partner once more, this was a striker back to what he knows and does best. Bread and butter with a sprinkling of caviar, if you will.

Three assists and a goal took Aguero to that impressive of statuses - no Premier League player has either scored more or assisted more league goals this season - to be top of both lists highlights his immense quality. 18 goals either finished or created in his 12 games at club level this season is the record of a striker at the very peak of his powers.

Interesting how many neutrals in football, & even the enemy (Neville etc) recon Serge is capable of way better than the form he has produced so far, even in his best season.

Quite a few have the opinion that he should be up there close to Ronaldo & Messi. Perhaps he is starting on that road ?

Are you saying he is the 3rd best player in the world? Because that's crazy talk, we know who the third best player in the world is.

Slim wrote:

Ted Hughes wrote:

ant london wrote:from f365.com's winners and losers column

Sergio Aguero
Despite recording their biggest top-flight win since 1968, the winners list has no place for Manchester City as a whole. We learned nothing of them that we didn't already know - this is a side always ruthless at home, often toothless away.

Aguero though, must be singled out for individual honours. Asked to plough a lone furrow at Stamford Bridge last week (and named man of the match in doing so), the Argentinean demonstrated an extra element to his game perhaps not before witnessed. Against Norwich on Saturday, and given a strike partner once more, this was a striker back to what he knows and does best. Bread and butter with a sprinkling of caviar, if you will.

Three assists and a goal took Aguero to that impressive of statuses - no Premier League player has either scored more or assisted more league goals this season - to be top of both lists highlights his immense quality. 18 goals either finished or created in his 12 games at club level this season is the record of a striker at the very peak of his powers.

Interesting how many neutrals in football, & even the enemy (Neville etc) recon Serge is capable of way better than the form he has produced so far, even in his best season.

Quite a few have the opinion that he should be up there close to Ronaldo & Messi. Perhaps he is starting on that road ?

Are you saying he is the 3rd best player in the world? Because that's crazy talk, we know who the third best player in the world is.

I wouldn't dare.

He was magnificent in his debut season but I'm not sure what happened last season. Really expected him to kick on and stake his claim to be one of the best in the world but went backwards and produced many substandard performances and often cut a frustrated figure. There were moments of brilliance like his goals against Rags and Chelsea but like Silva he'll know he performed nowhere near to what he was capable of. Was it Mancini? Or personal issues? Who knows..

This season though he's been fantastic and looking even better than the player he was in his debut season. If he performs consistently at the level he has been, there are few better...

My only issues with him were his greed. It's good for a striker to be confident and want to score but quite often he'd try and do it all himself and shoot from a ridiculous angle when an easy pass to a team-mate in a better position was on. One particular example was the Cardiff game early this season when at 3-2 down in stoppage time he was running away from goal on his left foot, surrounded by 3 defenders with very little angle and he shot when he had about 3 unmarked players ready to tap in if he squared the ball. And we al know that for some reason both him and Silva in the past have refused to pass to Dzeko when he was stood waiting for a tap in.

He does now though seem to be passing more and if he can do it consistently he'll be even more valuable.

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:He was magnificent in his debut season but I'm not sure what happened last season. Really expected him to kick on and stake his claim to be one of the best in the world but went backwards and produced many substandard performances and often cut a frustrated figure. There were moments of brilliance like his goals against Rags and Chelsea but like Silva he'll know he performed nowhere near to what he was capable of. Was it Mancini? Or personal issues? Who knows..

This season though he's been fantastic and looking even better than the player he was in his debut season. If he performs consistently at the level he has been, there are few better...

My only issues with him were his greed. It's good for a striker to be confident and want to score but quite often he'd try and do it all himself and shoot from a ridiculous angle when an easy pass to a team-mate in a better position was on. One particular example was the Cardiff game early this season when at 3-2 down in stoppage time he was running away from goal on his left foot, surrounded by 3 defenders with very little angle and he shot when he had about 3 unmarked players ready to tap in if he squared the ball. And we al know that for some reason both him and Silva in the past have refused to pass to Dzeko when he was stood waiting for a tap in.

He does now though seem to be passing more and if he can do it consistently he'll be even more valuable.

Even more valuable than 40m

Original Dub wrote:

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:He was magnificent in his debut season but I'm not sure what happened last season. Really expected him to kick on and stake his claim to be one of the best in the world but went backwards and produced many substandard performances and often cut a frustrated figure. There were moments of brilliance like his goals against Rags and Chelsea but like Silva he'll know he performed nowhere near to what he was capable of. Was it Mancini? Or personal issues? Who knows..

This season though he's been fantastic and looking even better than the player he was in his debut season. If he performs consistently at the level he has been, there are few better...

My only issues with him were his greed. It's good for a striker to be confident and want to score but quite often he'd try and do it all himself and shoot from a ridiculous angle when an easy pass to a team-mate in a better position was on. One particular example was the Cardiff game early this season when at 3-2 down in stoppage time he was running away from goal on his left foot, surrounded by 3 defenders with very little angle and he shot when he had about 3 unmarked players ready to tap in if he squared the ball. And we al know that for some reason both him and Silva in the past have refused to pass to Dzeko when he was stood waiting for a tap in.

He does now though seem to be passing more and if he can do it consistently he'll be even more valuable.

Even more valuable than 40m

All of the strikers are making more of an effort to play together & all are looking more dangerous because of it. I suspected Bob was hopeless in that area & this has confirmed it for me.

Aguero on current form would be double his original fee at least.