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Re: Pellegrini Satisfometer

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:24 pm
by PrezIke
Ted Hughes wrote:
PrezIke wrote:
Blue Since 76 wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
His buys this season have been utter fuckign shite.


I'm not sure we'll ever know, but are they his buys? More worrying is if they were down to El Chuckle Brothers, as that means regardless of the coach, we'll continue to buy mediocre shit.

But yes, they could sack him tonight for me. Although I'd then want Khaldoon to go in the dressing room and tell some of them cunts that they've got two managers the sack and it won't happen to a third, as many of them will be out the door come summer.


yeah i keep reading this and scratching my head.

the buys are on txiki. we rely on the director to buy and sell players, not the manager.


This keeps cropping up, & it did with Marwood getting the blame for Mancini's buys.

None of these players are forced on the managers. They will almost certainly be given suggestions & possible signings, maybe even preferences, by others at the club, but no way will the manager be given players he doesn't want. No way.

It's very likely that both Mancini & Pellegrini wanted players we were unable to buy, but that doesn't mean they are forced to sign the next one available. They can wait.

The managers themselves have clarified this time & again.


sure the manager has a say, but is pellegrini really spending his time scouting players like mangala and/or fernando or mostly working on managing the team?

sure, mdm was someone he wanted to bring in. and i of course he wanted/wants isco. they were his players, but not so sure about everyone else.

txiki, as director, likely negotiates the transfer fees, loan deals and contracts, but i am guessing he comes up with his own targets as well.

i am sure the count has had a say, as mancini did, but my guess is that scouting and recruiting is primarily txiki's job.

Re: Pellegrini Satisfometer

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:00 pm
by Ted Hughes
PrezIke wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
PrezIke wrote:
Blue Since 76 wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
His buys this season have been utter fuckign shite.


I'm not sure we'll ever know, but are they his buys? More worrying is if they were down to El Chuckle Brothers, as that means regardless of the coach, we'll continue to buy mediocre shit.

But yes, they could sack him tonight for me. Although I'd then want Khaldoon to go in the dressing room and tell some of them cunts that they've got two managers the sack and it won't happen to a third, as many of them will be out the door come summer.


yeah i keep reading this and scratching my head.

the buys are on txiki. we rely on the director to buy and sell players, not the manager.


This keeps cropping up, & it did with Marwood getting the blame for Mancini's buys.

None of these players are forced on the managers. They will almost certainly be given suggestions & possible signings, maybe even preferences, by others at the club, but no way will the manager be given players he doesn't want. No way.

It's very likely that both Mancini & Pellegrini wanted players we were unable to buy, but that doesn't mean they are forced to sign the next one available. They can wait.

The managers themselves have clarified this time & again.


sure the manager has a say, but is pellegrini really spending his time scouting players like mangala and/or fernando or mostly working on managing the team?

sure, mdm was someone he wanted to bring in. and i of course he wanted/wants isco. they were his players, but not so sure about everyone else.

txiki, as director, likely negotiates the transfer fees, loan deals and contracts, but i am guessing he comes up with his own targets as well.

i am sure the count has had a say, as mancini did, but my guess is that scouting and recruiting is primarily txiki's job.


No, the manager can't scout them very much, we have a huge team of people doing that with different departments in different countries.

They will present the details to Pellegrini, & then he will decide if he thinks we should proceed on some of them. Some, like Bony, he can see closeup himself.

Others, like Fernando & Mangala will be mainly on video.

Some of the players Mancini signed, will have been scouted when Hughes was manager. Some of the current lot, like Fernandinho & Jovetic, when Mancini was manager, or in Jovetic's case, maybe before even Hughes. Very likely Hughes would have signed Silva etc if he'd still been in charge & Mancini would quite possibly have signed Jovetic & Fernandinho.

Some are clearly manager signings. Unlikely Hughes would have signed Maicon or Kolarov, or Mancini signed Negredo or Demichelis.

If we don't have a scouting network finding players, we won't get any.

Re: Pellegrini Satisfometer

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:08 pm
by twosips
"PELLEGRINI: It's important to try to win tomorrow, to improve, to be consistent and not have bad moments in a game #MCFC"

Ha. Hats off to him for coming out with possibly the most beige comment humanely possible.

Re: Pellegrini Satisfometer

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:20 pm
by DoomMerchant
twosips wrote:"PELLEGRINI: It's important to try to win tomorrow, to improve, to be consistent and not have bad moments in a game #MCFC"

Ha. Hats off to him for coming out with possibly the most beige comment humanely possible.


At least "the old cunt" knows we have a match. At a certain age he won't even know I'm his son anymore.

Cheers

Re: Pellegrini Satisfometer

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:58 pm
by freshie
Clouds, silver linings and all that

Re: Pellegrini Satisfometer

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:41 pm
by bayblue
Just choked on my beans on toast when I've seen a couple of papers name Benitez as a possible candidate. I know he's Spanish and all that and won the Champions League but, seriously, anyone want us to play like his recent teams ???

Re: Pellegrini Satisfometer

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:07 pm
by Dameerto
bayblue wrote:Just choked on my beans on toast when I've seen a couple of papers name Benitez as a possible candidate. I know he's Spanish and all that and won the Champions League but, seriously, anyone want us to play like his recent teams ???

Considering it's been said the player accommodation at the new training ground is better than five star hotel standard, maybe they could do with a waiter. (I hope he never sets foot in Manchester with any intention of taking over though).

Re: Pellegrini Satisfometer

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:12 pm
by DoomMerchant
bayblue wrote:Just choked on my beans on toast when I've seen a couple of papers name Benitez as a possible candidate. I know he's Spanish and all that and won the Champions League but, seriously, anyone want us to play like his recent teams ???


he wouldn't be my first preference, but i bet we'd all be surprised at the job he could do here if he had a legit shot at the gig.

cheers

Re: Pellegrini Satisfometer

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:37 pm
by Mase
DoomMerchant wrote:
bayblue wrote:Just choked on my beans on toast when I've seen a couple of papers name Benitez as a possible candidate. I know he's Spanish and all that and won the Champions League but, seriously, anyone want us to play like his recent teams ???


he wouldn't be my first preference, but i bet we'd all be surprised at the job he could do here if he had a legit shot at the gig.

cheers


Benitez wasn't a bad manager. He was just too emotional.

Re: Pellegrini Satisfometer

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:50 pm
by Cocacolajojo1
Benitez wasn't a bad manager. He was just too emotional.


But, if you want to talk bad transfer dealings I think Benitez is the fucking man. Part of the cred that Rodgers might actually deserve is having to deal with a lot of god awful purchases made by Benitez and the Dalgleish.

Pellegrini's great. I'm not satisfied now but that'll change. Only reason to fire him would be if he lost the confidence of the entire squad which he probably hasn't.

Re: Pellegrini Satisfometer

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:58 pm
by Hazy2
Mase wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:
bayblue wrote:Just choked on my beans on toast when I've seen a couple of papers name Benitez as a possible candidate. I know he's Spanish and all that and won the Champions League but, seriously, anyone want us to play like his recent teams ???


he wouldn't be my first preference, but i bet we'd all be surprised at the job he could do here if he had a legit shot at the gig.

cheers


Benitez wasn't a bad manager. He was just too emotional.


He pissed of the fergie fan club with the Facts.

Re: Pellegrini Satisfometer

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:00 pm
by Cocacolajojo1
He pissed of the fergie fan club with the Facts.


THere was this one game where Liverpool bet the rags with 4-0, or something like that, and Benitez claimed that he had cracked the code of how to beat them. Then I saw an analysis of the game and alls they did was basically hoof the ball long and run after it. Brilliant tactic Mr Benitez.

Re: Pellegrini Satisfometer

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:24 pm
by Hazy2
13th on form table my lad has just told me.

Re: Pellegrini Satisfometer

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:30 pm
by Ted Hughes
Dinnnngggggg....






Dinnnngggggg....





Dinnnngggggg......

Re: Pellegrini Satisfometer

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:41 pm
by Hazy2
Who is it

Re: Pellegrini Satisfometer

PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:59 am
by DoomMerchant
Hazy2 wrote:Who is it


Ding Dong.

Cheers

Re: Pellegrini Satisfometer

PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:17 am
by Dameerto
He sounds Korean.

Re: Pellegrini Satisfometer

PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:03 am
by Hazy2
DoomMerchant wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:Who is it


Ding Dong.

Cheers

He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy! Now, piss off!

Re: Pellegrini Satisfometer

PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:51 am
by sheblue
The Barcelona game is a make or break game for Pellegrini.

Re: Pellegrini Satisfometer

PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:07 am
by Cocacolajojo1
The Barcelona game is a make or break game for Pellegrini.


If you are correct, I hope the owners see sense and get rid of his superiors instead for putting such ridiculous pressure on him.