getdressedmctavish wrote:I felt that under Mancini, one of the ways he was causing unrest in the squad was by his treatment of Milner and Lescott. The Count has been equally or more prejudiced against them. Milner was mad as fuck when he came on yesterday. But these are two popular players with the squad so I suspect that has had a negative effect.But Ted's point remains a good one. The Count's strong point has been to trust the players rather than seeing them as chess pieces on a board but on Sunday they betrayed that trust in the first 60 minutes. After that it was more a matter of Wigan riding their luck.With those chances we would normally have won 4 or 5 -2.So my conclusion is that the Count's general approach is correct and has served us well though occasionally in football shit happens.However, I would much prefer Milner and Lescott to be treated more respectfully. Don't judge Lescott just on Weds game, however, as he may well get mullered. But he is certainly the man for Hull and if he plays well should be given the same chance as Demichellis to cement a place in the team.That's why he's leaving, because no matter how well he plays he thinks the Count will discard him in favour of Demichellis.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote: Milner and Lescott are millionaire footballers. You shouldn't worry about their individual feelings as they don't give a shit about yours. I hope Pellers don't care much about their individual feelings either. If he did, he might all of the sudden start seeing Milner as something more than workhorse pawn which he is.
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote: Milner and Lescott are millionaire footballers. You shouldn't worry about their individual feelings as they don't give a shit about yours. I hope Pellers don't care much about their individual feelings either. If he did, he might all of the sudden start seeing Milner as something more than workhorse pawn which he is.
No point in any form of token manners, polite gestures or being anything short of a self centered cunt then is what your saying?
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote: Football team is not a democracy.
Beefymcfc wrote:Shouldn't really change as it was against Barca but does it add to the weight?
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Yesterday was fine. The approach was good and positive and Zaba and Nasri missed chances which they really had to take.
However we ultimately left ourselves too much to do. The damage was done in the first leg where we got our tactics all wrong.
No team has ever come back to win after losing the first leg at home by two goals. Such a shame we didn't start with the same positivity in the home leg.
South Stand Balti wrote:We finished second last season and won the league the season before. MP came in and:
1. Spent £100m
2. Lost 4 of the first 11 league games.
3. Used Garcia as a centre half.
4. Qualified through the Champs league - this was the weakest group by some distance compared with previous two years it should be noted.
5. He bought Demichelis.
6. He plays Demichelis
7. He showed live on tv that he cannot count beyond three. Embarrassing and took the shine of a win as many posters said.
8. Despite the draw with Blackburn and the close shave with Watford he did nt learn any lessons as seen by the line up against Wigan, the most expensive side in the Championship.
9. He thinks we are called Man United. Very embarrassing.
I'm not that satisfied.
blues2win wrote:The stuff about early defeats is very unfair; any manager needs a bit of time to bed in. How about all the goals we scored although admittedly they've dried up plus the Capital One Cup and we're still in with a decent chance of winning the league. In retrospect we'd have done better to get a top class centre back than Jovetic who's injured all the time. We must put that right in the close season and maybe Jovetic will finally come right. I'm still hoping!
South Stand Balti wrote:We finished second last season and won the league the season before. MP came in and:
1. Spent £100m
2. Lost 4 of the first 11 league games.
3. Used Garcia as a centre half.
4. Qualified through the Champs league - this was the weakest group by some distance compared with previous two years it should be noted.
5. He bought Demichelis.
6. He plays Demichelis
7. He showed live on tv that he cannot count beyond three. Embarrassing and took the shine of a win as many posters said.
8. Despite the draw with Blackburn and the close shave with Watford he did nt learn any lessons as seen by the line up against Wigan, the most expensive side in the Championship.
9. He thinks we are called Man United. Very embarrassing.
I'm not that satisfied.
Ted Hughes wrote: We had a side full of fucking internationals v Wigan. It was not a weak side. Anybody who says it was is a fucking knobhead.
South Stand Balti wrote:It looked weak to me. The back four v Wigan are not all playing international football now or are not playing a high standard. Regardless of that they do not play regularly together. In other words the defence were not a team and it showed. It was awful and anybody could see that. It was not a one off (Blackburn, Watford). You can insult me all u want but I was there to see the performance I expected v Wigan once I saw the line up
South Stand Balti wrote:It looked weak to me. The back four v Wigan are not all playing international football now or are not playing a high standard. Regardless of that they do not play regularly together. In other words the defence were not a team and it showed. It was awful and anybody could see that. It was not a one off (Blackburn, Watford). You can insult me all u want but I was there to see the performance I expected v Wigan once I saw the line up
Blue Since 76 wrote: 1: did the players he bought improve us? 2: Whilst to adopt to a new system. Lost 1 of the subsequent 15 games. 3: Garcia was a terrible centre half, in fact he was a terrible player. But was bought by Mancini. At the time, who else was available to play 4: Yes he qualified. Disgrace that he didn't pick us a harder group though. 5: Think it was a Hamann/Vieira type purchase, a player he trusted from two previous stints with him 6: Personally, I'll only be happy if he never wears the shirt again, so that has been a cock up 7: Then neither can Guardiola, as Bayern weren't aware how precarious their position was. Maybe we should swap him for Wenger who can count, but doesn't know who's eligible 8: The back 4 were the ones who hadn't been on international duty and had had chance to train together. Where would you have strengthened the rest of the team, following internationals and before a trip to Barca? 9: Do me a speech to camera in a foreign language without making a cock up and I'll agree he should be sacked for it. Other than that, I agree with you. Am I satisfied? No, but its his first season in England and he also tried to get Isco, Mangala and Fernando who may well have been what we were missing. With a fully fit side, we played the best football I've ever seen in the Premier League and I don't just mean from us.
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