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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby johnny crossan » Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:54 am

Dameerto wrote:
Justified logic wrote:How does the part sale to the Chinese fit into club profitabity and net ADUG investment?

It opens the door to the Chinese market, properly opens with full party approval. I'm still guessing it's the only way we could have done business in China - and it's kind of in keeping with how we've conducted our overseas business so far, by using local partners (initially at least) for their knowledge and expertise.

but Chinese investment doesn't affect group profitability does it? More investment is usually associated with more growth and more profit.
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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby Dameerto » Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:56 am

johnny crossan wrote:
Dameerto wrote:
Justified logic wrote:How does the part sale to the Chinese fit into club profitabity and net ADUG investment?

It opens the door to the Chinese market, properly opens with full party approval. I'm still guessing it's the only way we could have done business in China - and it's kind of in keeping with how we've conducted our overseas business so far, by using local partners (initially at least) for their knowledge and expertise.

but Chinese investment doesn't affect group profitability does it? More investment is usually associated with more growth and more profit.

Well I guess more business could lead to more profitability (and it's a huge and increasingly enthusiastic market) - there was an immediate injection of funds too. I'm not a businessman though, so might have misread something.
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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby johnny crossan » Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:09 am

Dameerto wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:
Dameerto wrote:
Justified logic wrote:How does the part sale to the Chinese fit into club profitabity and net ADUG investment?

It opens the door to the Chinese market, properly opens with full party approval. I'm still guessing it's the only way we could have done business in China - and it's kind of in keeping with how we've conducted our overseas business so far, by using local partners (initially at least) for their knowledge and expertise.

but Chinese investment doesn't affect group profitability does it? More investment is usually associated with more growth and more profit.

Well I guess more business could lead to more profitability (and it's a huge and increasingly enthusiastic market) - there was an immediate injection of funds too. I'm not a businessman though, so might have misread something.

sorry I should have said 'specifically' Chinese investment but the potential of the Chinese market is also additional positive factor, as you say, probably contingent on their investment..
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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby Justified logic » Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:13 am

johnny crossan wrote:
Justified logic wrote:How does the part sale to the Chinese fit into club profitabity and net ADUG investment?

I don't think the nationality of the City Group ownership is relevant is it?

Not in the slightest, and I don't know why you think it should be.

I was merely wondering how the cash injection appeared in our accounts. Did it for instance boost income or reduce the net capital investment?
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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby johnny crossan » Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:18 am

Justified logic wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:
Justified logic wrote:How does the part sale to the Chinese fit into club profitabity and net ADUG investment?

I don't think the nationality of the City Group ownership is relevant is it?

Not in the slightest, and I don't know why you think it should be.

I was merely wondering how the cash injection appeared in our accounts. Did it for instance boost income or reduce the net capital investment?

That was not clear from your original question was it? The revised version makes no sense to me either.
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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby blues2win » Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:41 am

I notice United are pushing their huge social media presence to transfer targets. Boosts their image rights. I haven’t seen any League tables but I suspect we have some way to go here. It was suggested by Martin Samuel on Sunday Supplement that United get more coverage in the Press because stories about them get loads of clicks. City beating Leicester playing brilliantly again. Yawn. Frustrating. Another point Samuel made is we don’t have ex City players on TV as pundits because the Sheikh’s take over is quite recent and there aren’t the ex City players who have won PL titles available as TV pundits.
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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby johnny crossan » Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:57 pm

Rumoured to be on the verge of the biggest commercial deal in City's history.
£50m Puma kit sponsorship.
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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:49 am

johnny crossan wrote:Rumoured to be on the verge of the biggest commercial deal in City's history.
£50m Puma kit sponsorship.

Fantastic. Getting rid of Nike and its shite being the Brucie Bonus.
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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby john@staustell » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:45 am

Top of the financial power rankings in world football apparently, according to Soccerex.

Can't post the link from this phone but if someone could kindly oblige?
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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby RodneyRodney » Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:05 am

john@staustell wrote:Top of the financial power rankings in world football apparently, according to Soccerex.

Can't post the link from this phone but if someone could kindly oblige?


https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer ... 56970.html

Rankings


1. Manchester City

2. Arsenal

3. PSG

4. Guangzhou Evergrande

5. Tottenham

6. Real Madrid

7. Manchester United

8. Juventus

9. Chelsea

10. Bayern Munich

11. Zenit St Petersburg

12. RB Leipzig

13. Barcelona

14. LA Galaxy

15. Atletico Madrid

16. Liverpool

17. Borussia Dortmund

18. Lyon

19. Monaco

20. Leicester
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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby Dameerto » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:55 am

This is why that cunt from La Liga was trying to throw shit at us, he's worried Spain has lost ground and will probably lose even more.
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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby john@staustell » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:27 am

Dameerto wrote:This is why that cunt from La Liga was trying to throw shit at us, he's worried Spain has lost ground and will probably lose even more.


Him and Stan Collmore will be in meltdown today. Oh and Maureen of course
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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby edge275 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:38 am

Arsenal second? Sounds like fake news to me.
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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby john@staustell » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:49 am

edge275 wrote:Arsenal second? Sounds like fake news to me.


Debt seems to weigh heavily. Hence the RAGS are 7th. Arsenal don't have any and have very rich owners and pots of money. Which they don't use of course but it's all about potential.
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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby City64 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:21 pm

edge275 wrote:Arsenal second? Sounds like fake news to me.

Great result for them they usually end up 4th 5th or 6th .
Not really here

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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby city72 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:23 pm

john@staustell wrote:
edge275 wrote:Arsenal second? Sounds like fake news to me.


Debt seems to weigh heavily. Hence the RAGS are 7th. Arsenal don't have any and have very rich owners and pots of money. Which they don't use of course but it's all about potential.

Why would rags have so much money in the bank with such debts? It's like me having £100k in bank getting 0.5% interest and having a £100k mortgage getting charged 2.5% intrest!

", while only Manchester United have more money in the bank (£307m) than Arsenal's £300m."
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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby Tokyo Blue » Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:55 pm

city72 wrote:
john@staustell wrote:
edge275 wrote:Arsenal second? Sounds like fake news to me.


Debt seems to weigh heavily. Hence the RAGS are 7th. Arsenal don't have any and have very rich owners and pots of money. Which they don't use of course but it's all about potential.

Why would rags have so much money in the bank with such debts? It's like me having £100k in bank getting 0.5% interest and having a £100k mortgage getting charged 2.5% intrest!

", while only Manchester United have more money in the bank (£307m) than Arsenal's £300m."

So their owners can syphon it off as and when they see fit?
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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby zuricity » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:17 pm

Tokyo Blue wrote:
city72 wrote:
john@staustell wrote:
edge275 wrote:Arsenal second? Sounds like fake news to me.


Debt seems to weigh heavily. Hence the RAGS are 7th. Arsenal don't have any and have very rich owners and pots of money. Which they don't use of course but it's all about potential.

Why would rags have so much money in the bank with such debts? It's like me having £100k in bank getting 0.5% interest and having a £100k mortgage getting charged 2.5% intrest!

", while only Manchester United have more money in the bank (£307m) than Arsenal's £300m."

So their owners can syphon it off as and when they see fit?


That's the thing, they are not really owners , the finance houses holding their loans are. The worst form of 'owner' there is, always buying on the never never.
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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby Hutch's Shoulder » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:33 pm

city72 wrote:
john@staustell wrote:
edge275 wrote:Arsenal second? Sounds like fake news to me.


Debt seems to weigh heavily. Hence the RAGS are 7th. Arsenal don't have any and have very rich owners and pots of money. Which they don't use of course but it's all about potential.

Why would rags have so much money in the bank with such debts? It's like me having £100k in bank getting 0.5% interest and having a £100k mortgage getting charged 2.5% intrest!

", while only Manchester United have more money in the bank (£307m) than Arsenal's £300m."


It's safely stored in the bank of Glazer.
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Re: The Worldwide Commercial Enterprise Continues

Postby Scatman » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:03 pm

city72 wrote:
john@staustell wrote:
edge275 wrote:Arsenal second? Sounds like fake news to me.


Debt seems to weigh heavily. Hence the RAGS are 7th. Arsenal don't have any and have very rich owners and pots of money. Which they don't use of course but it's all about potential.

Why would rags have so much money in the bank with such debts? It's like me having £100k in bank getting 0.5% interest and having a £100k mortgage getting charged 2.5% intrest!

", while only Manchester United have more money in the bank (£307m) than Arsenal's £300m."


How would they settle the milk bill/waste money on shit players if they used all their cash to pay off the mortgage?
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